Who Has The Highest IQ?

134 when I had the flu and fell asleep during testing; 137 a few days later, big whoop. It did me no real good since my memory was always poor. I was less functional than someone who was in "special ed." Like Pepper above, I lacked ambition, perseverance, and self-esteem. "Under-achiever." BUT, I do have a sense of humor! Edited haha - Oh my, how I have deteriorated! Just got a reminder from my daughter that my scores (per old documents) were 143 and 147! She scored a bit higher, of course! I have mentioned that I am math-impaired, eh? And don't ever ask me to count backwards from 100!
 
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Em in Ohio said:
134 when I had the flu and fell asleep during testing; 137 a few days later, big whoop. It did me no real good since my memory was always poor. I was less functional than someone who was in "special ed." Like Pepper above, I lacked ambition, perseverance, and self-esteem. "Under-achiever." BUT, I do have a sense of humor!
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I actually do believe that IQ is more about memory than brain cells...
 
I would prefer that the education system used used Aptitude testing instead of IQ testing. Most people can excel and live a fulfilling life if they are encouraged and fed information about what ability/s they have. They could have an IQ of 70 and play music by ear that is magnificent, or be able to take care of nature in some way.
 
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Paco Dennis said:
I would prefer that the education system used used Aptitude testing instead of IQ testing. Most people can excel and live a fulfilling life if they are encouraged and fed information about what ability/s they have. They could have an IQ of 70 and play music by ear that is magnificent, or be able to take care of nature in some way.
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I believe that both aptitude testing and IQ testing are considered when the education system plots out our paths. I also agree that aptitude testing is probably more important. On some test (I was given many), I scored high for mechanical engineering smarts. Go figure, since I was math-impaired! (But, I could be counted on to MacGyver things!)

But, as I mentioned earlier, the person that I envied the most for their functionality on the job was in special ed all her life! She could have run the place that I worked, I'm sure. Her mind was organized, not continually distracted like mine.

But if aptitude was taken more seriously, I think we would foster far more greatly talented people. I'd also like to see a greater emphasis on job training and apprenticeships - and life skills!
 
Warrigal said:
Test scores mean very little unless you know which IQ test was administered.

It also matters whether the test was self administered or preformed under controlled conditions.
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I'm sure you are correct. I do believe that the tests changed over the years. Also, for some odd reason that I don't understand, I keep getting pop-up IQ tests and challenges (video game challenges) to help determine my IQ. I don't bite!
 
Einstein's relativity is another major discovery, and Einstein was known to have schizotypal traits, be aloof, have difficulty relating to others, and to have had a son with schizophrenia.Jun 17, 2011

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Mathematician John Nash, a Nobel Prize winner had a longtime struggle with mental illness that inspired the movie "A Beautiful Mind".

Be careful of what you ask for. A well-balanced, normal IQ might be better than an exceptional IQ.
 
Em in Ohio said:
I believe that both aptitude testing and IQ testing are considered when the education system plots out our paths. I also agree that aptitude testing is probably more important. On some test (I was given many), I scored high for mechanical engineering smarts. Go figure, since I was math-impaired! (But, I could be counted on to MacGyver things!)

But, as I mentioned earlier, the person that I envied the most for their functionality on the job was in special ed all her life! She could have run the place that I worked, I'm sure. Her mind was organized, not continually distracted like mine.

But if aptitude was taken more seriously, I think we would foster far more greatly talented people. I'd also like to see a greater emphasis on job training and apprenticeships - and life skills!
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IQ became a part of education in the US when the 1958 National Defense Education Act was passed. Its purpose is to help school staff identify students best suited for college. This is a point of radical social change because how we are judged, and for what we are judged, radically changed.

In the past aptitude would have gotten a teacher's attention as they saw it as their job to help individual students discover their interests and talents and to nurture that.

Education for democracy is about being the best we can be and this very much includes learning virtues and principles. Since 1958 we have been preparing products for industry and that is an amoral education. We have destroyed our democracy and brought about anarchy and its counterpart is trying to control people with laws and police force. This is not good for liberty and justice.
 
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Vida May said:
"IQ became a part of education in the US when the 1958 National Defense Education was passed. Its purpose was to help school staff identify students best suited for college. This is a point of radical social change because how we are judged, and for what we are judged, radically changed."
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That explains why I was put in an "enrichment program" in third grade! It also probably explains why I was subjected to so many different tests. I was recently watching a show (can't remember what, haha) that talked about these enrichment programs. It prompted me to look it up, and the plot was definitely based on reality - except that, in the story, the boy was victim of an alien invasion!
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Paco Dennis said:
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Okay and we can take this a step further. In the past, C grades were good enough to get into college and to get a degree. We were using the Athenian model of education for well-rounded individual growth and research had shown C students were more apt to succeed because success is about character traits and social skills, not just passing tests.

Now we have a real mess with colleges promoting the notion that their students are superior. We have a divided country as we have not had since the Civil War. We have culture wars and all kinds of hatefulness. Thomas Jefferson and his peers knew better when they struggled to make universal education a reality and believed that was the only way to have a strong and united nation. Accepting C grades and returning to education for good citizenship would return us to the democracy we had.
 

The alien is Prussian. As I said, we modeled our education on the Athenian model for well-rounded individual growth. In 1958 the US adopted the Prussian model of education for technology for military and industrial purposes, and moral training was left to the church. That is a disaster for our democracy and plays a very strong role in the culture wars we have today. We have lost the understanding of what democracy has to do with reason and morals.

We are at war with each other and like individuals need psychoanalysis, the US is in desperate need of psychoanalysis. Germany was a Christian Republic under Prussian control. There are some really good things about Prussian bureaucracy and education, but now Texas is in favor of reporting neighbors and family to authority and we seem to have completely blurred the line between our public and private lives. Perhaps if we see this as a cultural problem, we can talk about it.

Or you might want to choose to ignore me because my IQ test rates me at the moron level. I was angry about being told this one test would determine our opportunities in life so we must do our very best. I intentionally made bad choices on that test. :ROFLMAO: I had a B average and in that ghetto school, that is doing very well, so I was called into the office for that "college" talk. Very innocently I fluttered my eyelashes and said according to my IQ score I am not smart enough for college. She rushed out of the room, evidently checked my IQ score, and dismissed me. Later I went on to college, and that stupid test did not stop me. But raising my children and supporting them and trying to keep up with single young people supported by their parents was a problem and correcting a professor did not improve the grades he gave me. As a different professor whom I loved said, I have had a very interesting life, but not the indoctrinated one that comes with a degree.
 
When I was in high school in the San Francisco Bay Area (one of the prime Defense Contracting industry sites & future home of Silicon Valley), our school had done away with aptitude tests. I overheard one of the teachers talking about it saying something like, "Aptitude tests are worthless! What good would it do you to know if you were good at working with your hands for instance?! There's no way you can earn a living with your hands! The only tools anyone needs to learn to use are slide rules, calculators and the telephone. The future is everybody's going to be sitting behind a desk." And he pretty much was right, for that area anyway; even back in those days, unless your dad owned a car dealership or something, the only jobs after high school or college that you'd be able to afford a house & family were in offices. (That high school had also done away with "shop" class for the boys; we girls still had to take home economics; I guess the thinking was that we'd have to know how to make Hors d'Oeuvres for cocktail parties after we got married.)
 
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