Who is there to get angry with?

I have also noticed traffic being cut pretty severely. I leave for work at 5:20 a.m. and even then, it’s nowhere as busy as it was prior to the virus concerns. I leave work at between 10:00 a.m. and 12 noon and traffic is also light.

I just want my old life back.
 

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Traffic is down dramatically in my area. We went grocery shopping yesterday for the first time in over a week and were out less than two hours, all told. Even local main arteries were nearly empty.

In fact, with the exception of those working in essential jobs you're the only Californian I personally know of, in cyberspace or otherwise, who continues to go out every day.

You're clearly enjoying thumbing your nose at the rules. I hope that doesn't come back to haunt you or your elderly friends.
I have been wondering how the traffic was in the L.A. area. I remember when I would fly into LAX, if I was staying over, I would drive over to Long Beach and maybe have lunch or dinner, depending on the time of day. My sister-in-law lived in Torrance. Her husband, my b-i-l was an attorney, (PI) and we would maybe have dinner. The last time we did that was 2009 and he took us to a place called “Nick’s.” Good food and really good service. I really liked the area. If I lived out there, my favorite area was Century City. Good choice or not?
 
My POV is disgust more than anger- as this virus was known about way back in December, we all should have been alerted much sooner. If we'd had the chance to take precautions there would have been fewer cases, fewer deaths, and we could have been prepared for it.

That's where part of my anger is focused. First is with the CCP (CCP Virus is a great name for this disease) and their lies, cover-ups, persecution of Chinese citizens trying to get the truth out.

Next is the WHO that acted as though the CCP's numbers were correct. So in doing so failed to act in a timely manner.

Next are most governments of the Western world who knew the CCP and WHO were full of shit and didn't act independently.

My almost fury level anger is directed at the CDC due to their multiple testing failures including testing timeline, ludicrously narrow early parameters, screwing up tests with sloppy lab practices, poor coordination with the FDA to fix the problem... They're career bureaucrats who have had their noses up Big Pharmas' butts for so long that they didn't know how to do their actual jobs properly when the need came along.

Typing it out here helps.
 

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I did blow up at someone today. I ruined my own day which was hard to start with, as it is my Dad's BD today. I yelled at a Coop Board Member. I didn't like her nasty attitude toward the staff, men who have been here for years. Shouldn't have, though. I'm on the edge. Not seeing my grandson, except on FaceTime, is getting to me.
 
I have been wondering how the traffic was in the L.A. area. I remember when I would fly into LAX, if I was staying over, I would drive over to Long Beach and maybe have lunch or dinner, depending on the time of day. My sister-in-law lived in Torrance. Her husband, my b-i-l was an attorney, (PI) and we would maybe have dinner. The last time we did that was 2009 and he took us to a place called “Nick’s.” Good food and really good service. I really liked the area. If I lived out there, my favorite area was Century City. Good choice or not?
If you're back in this area & you go to Long Beach, I recommend Parker's Lighthouse in Shoreline Village (when restaurants are open again). Great seafood.
 
I spend most of my time here on the forum. I can't stand what is on tv especially what my husband enjoys watching. He is either watching Political shows or shows about the amount of people that have died or caught the virus. I put my earplugs in and listen to music or go to youtube and watch old shows. Everyday I facetime my 3 grandchildren, that's the best part of the day.
 
There really is not much of a "rush hour" here anymore. Weekdays have Sunday morning levels of traffic. This whole virus issue still seems surreal.
A friend of mines mother who lives in a senior home has died due to the covid virus. Last year she had the regular flu without a problem. What makes me really angry, is that prior to the actual lock down of senior residences for visitors, but still with the social distancing in effect, a grandson of another resident came for a visit. It ended up he tested positive a few days later. It now looks like he brought it in and there have been 8 deaths in that residence alone!
 
I have been wondering how the traffic was in the L.A. area. I remember when I would fly into LAX, if I was staying over, I would drive over to Long Beach and maybe have lunch or dinner, depending on the time of day. My sister-in-law lived in Torrance. Her husband, my b-i-l was an attorney, (PI) and we would maybe have dinner. The last time we did that was 2009 and he took us to a place called “Nick’s.” Good food and really good service. I really liked the area. If I lived out there, my favorite area was Century City. Good choice or not?
Traffic is down dramatically. As @Getyoung said about his area, LA rush hour traffic also closely resembles non-holiday weekend (or summer beach weather) Sunday mornings.

Most West LA areas, Century City included, are very happening places with the best of the best of our weather. Of course that means they're also expensive, densely populated and highly congested. There's nothing wrong with your taste, @oldman!
 
Traffic is down dramatically. As @Getyoung said about his area, LA rush hour traffic also closely resembles non-holiday weekend (or summer beach weather) Sunday mornings.

Most West LA areas, Century City included, are very happening places with the best of the best of our weather. Of course that means they're also expensive, densely populated and highly congested. There's nothing wrong with your taste, @oldman!
I used to hear so much bad about the L.A. area, but I enjoyed every stay over when I flew out there and I have even vacationed out there. Century City just always appealed to me. Yes, I disliked the traffic on the 405, 5 and the 10, but other than that, I enjoyed my times out there. Burbank and Hollywood often fascinated me at night. The freak show in Hollywood was always entertaining. On Sundays, there was nothing like spending the day at Venice Beach. Talk about a freak show. I was out there a few years ago and I saw this real deep colored green building with a sign on it. I think it read, “Dr. Green.” You go in one door and see the “doctor” and he gives his so-called patient a prescription for MJ, then, you come out and go in the next door and get it filled. Funny stuff. I also liked the beaches. Huntington and Santa Monica are my favorites. The Beverly Hilton is a great place to stay and the drive up the PCH is the best, especially when stopping off at the many great towns along the way up to San Francisco. And that’s another favorite place of mine. I could go on and on, but I’m preaching to the choir. I’m starting to feel like I need to get back out there.
 
I used to hear so much bad about the L.A. area, but I enjoyed every stay over when I flew out there and I have even vacationed out there. Century City just always appealed to me. Yes, I disliked the traffic on the 405, 5 and the 10, but other than that, I enjoyed my times out there. Burbank and Hollywood often fascinated me at night. The freak show in Hollywood was always entertaining. On Sundays, there was nothing like spending the day at Venice Beach. Talk about a freak show. I was out there a few years ago and I saw this real deep colored green building with a sign on it. I think it read, “Dr. Green.” You go in one door and see the “doctor” and he gives his so-called patient a prescription for MJ, then, you come out and go in the next door and get it filled. Funny stuff. I also liked the beaches. Huntington and Santa Monica are my favorites. The Beverly Hilton is a great place to stay and the drive up the PCH is the best, especially when stopping off at the many great towns along the way up to San Francisco. And that’s another favorite place of mine. I could go on and on, but I’m preaching to the choir. I’m starting to feel like I need to get back out there.
I also love L.A., and it warms me to read your positive reflections.
 
I also love L.A., and it warms me to read your positive reflections.
My sister-in-law now lives in Orange County out by Anaheim Stadium. Surprisingly, it’s very quiet and not very busy in the part she lives. I walk from her place over to the stadium. We were there back when The Rolling Stones held a concert there. We sat outside and listened to the concert without being in the crowd.
 
"Lock Down?" I've been going out every day ever since this started. I've been visiting friends & bringing my elderly friends food & supplies. From the traffic, not many people are staying home, either.
Isn't California one of the states most severely affected by COVID19? If so, you really should adhere to the stay home request as much as possible. Hubby and I are limiting ourselves to one visit each to the shops per week. My state, NSW, is managing to force the infection transmission rate down because most people are complying with social isolation guidelines. Mistakes, including some bad ones concerning a cruise ship, were made at first but we have learnt fast and our hospitals are not being overwhelmed just now but if the restrictions are loosened too soon, we could be in bad trouble.
 
Isn't California one of the states most severely affected by COVID19? If so, you really should adhere to the stay home request as much as possible. Hubby and I are limiting ourselves to one visit each to the shops per week. My state, NSW, is managing to force the infection transmission rate down because most people are complying with social isolation guidelines. Mistakes, including some bad ones concerning a cruise ship, were made at first but we have learnt fast and our hospitals are not being overwhelmed just now but if the restrictions are loosened too soon, we could be in bad trouble.

Do you believe this virus can be eliminated from the world by any amount of lockdown affecting the general public, because "key workers" may still be passing it around, and some poorer, or wartorn countries in the world won't be able to follow best practise will they?
 
Key workers are on the whole practising physical separation and the measures our governments have asked for are designed to buy precious time. In the end it will be vaccination that tames the pandemic. Hubby and I are grateful for everyone's co-operation because it is not an exaggeration to say our lives depend on the selflessness consideration of others.
 
Key workers are on the whole practising physical separation and the measures our governments have asked for are designed to buy precious time. In the end it will be vaccination that tames the pandemic. Hubby and I are grateful for everyone's co-operation because it is not an exaggeration to say our lives depend on the selflessness consideration of others.

I see, so if I understand you correctly(?) our world will have to accept a form of lockdown for as last long as it takes for an effective vaccine to be found, and manufactured is sufficient quantity (along with whatever "herd immunity" has been achieved in the me a time).
What percentage of the world economy might be lost whilst this is happening, assuming political pressure, and social unrest doesn't force a more risky move away from the "world lockdown" we have now?
 
I see, so if I understand you correctly(?) our world will have to accept a form of lockdown for as last long as it takes for an effective vaccine to be found, and manufactured is sufficient quantity (along with whatever "herd immunity" has been achieved in the me a time).
What percentage of the world economy might be lost whilst this is happening, assuming political pressure, and social unrest doesn't force a more risky move away from the "world lockdown" we have now?
What percentage of lives would be lost if we do not accept some form of lockdown?
No easy answer either way unfortunately. 😥
 
I am pretty much always angry at my husband. Now that he is home 24/7 and we are together 24/7, his nastiness is barely tolerable to me. The only good thing about buying this old house is the projects, projects, projects.

He is out leveling out the yard, section by section, putting bricks around the fence so the dogs can‘t get out, and he has to remove a patio that drains towards the house and could cause flooding into our laundry room in heavy rain.

This area will be filled with raspberries. You don’t need to buy many plants as they will spread. They also have thorns so they are also a security feature. There are plenty of projects to keep us separate. What am I doing?

Supervision-witch in charge, although witch could be spelled with a b. 🤣
 
What percentage of lives would be lost if we do not accept some form of lockdown?
As of this date, the percentage of deaths from coronavirus in the United States is 0.00571428571429%
Making Panic Absurd. Precautions, Not Absurd. Panic, Yes Absurd.
 
As of this date, the percentage of deaths from coronavirus in the United States is 0.00571428571429%
Making Panic Absurd. Precautions, Not Absurd. Panic, Yes Absurd.
Well, true be told, I’m often absurd. I also have a panic disorder issue. That makes me both panicked and absurd. But at least I have toilet paper! 🤣
 
Well, true be told, I’m often absurd. I also have a panic disorder issue. That makes me both panicked and absurd. But at least I have toilet paper! 🤣
Me too, often absurd and more often than not. I also have panic issues. But when it comes to the Really Big Issues, I am usually very logic driven and most definitely Unafraid. As for toilet paper, Yes, Me Too! 🤣
 
As of this date, the percentage of deaths from coronavirus in the United States is 0.00571428571429%
Making Panic Absurd. Precautions, Not Absurd. Panic, Yes Absurd.

Sorry, Pepper, this looks wrong. I just took the current Worldometer figures—21,474 deaths out of 545,934 cases, in the US—and came up with a case fatality of 3.9%. Are you sure you remembered to multiply by 100 after doing the division? Or did you mean the percentage of ALL deaths? If so, over what time period?

But those numbers are misleading, in any case, because except for New York, the states aren't testing very many people. There may be a large number of undiagnosed mild cases who never go to the hospital.
 
I wasn't doing case fatality. I was doing what percentage is 20,000 deaths out of a population of 3.5 million. The population figure isn't too way off.

eta--3.9% shouldn't be enough to panic either. As I said, precautions, yes. Panic, no.
 
Isn't California one of the states most severely affected by COVID19? If so, you really should adhere to the stay home request as much as possible. Hubby and I are limiting ourselves to one visit each to the shops per week. My state, NSW, is managing to force the infection transmission rate down because most people are complying with social isolation guidelines. Mistakes, including some bad ones concerning a cruise ship, were made at first but we have learnt fast and our hospitals are not being overwhelmed just now but if the restrictions are loosened too soon, we could be in bad trouble.
If I believed everything they're telling us, I would stay home. But I don't.
 

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