jimintoronto
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Despite his world wide popularity, Elvis never performed out side of the US and Canada? Why? I know the answer, do you ? Lets hear your reasons for this odd Elvis fact ?
Why did Elvis never tour outside of the USA and Canada ?
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Nathan
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...maybe he didn't like to fly, I can relate to that.
jimintoronto
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Nope. He had his own jet passenger aircraft, with call sign NTCB. For Taking Care of Business, which was one of his slogans in the Las Vegas era. JIMB.
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Yes, I do. He only did three concerts in Canada... all in 1957 and then never crossed the border again. The Colonel wouldn't let him do international because he was not in the US legally and he needed to have eyes on Elvis at all times. Sounds creepy, but it is what it is.
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THIS^^^^^
jimintoronto
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Winner. The Colonel was an illegal in the USA. He was a Dutch citizen who jumped ship in NYC, and assumed a different identity . He had no passport, so he couldn't travel internationally.
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Elvis came to the UK twice... but not to perform
The first was when he was demobbed and on his way back to the USA. his plane stopped at Glasgow Prestwick airport in Scotland, March 3rd 1960...
He disembarked and chatted with the press and the fans
Elvis was reportedly far more relaxed and approachable without his manager and entourage around him and spent time talking to fans before going inside for a press conference and then reboarding the transport plane.
The second time he visited was incognito at the invite of one of our top singers of the 60's Tommy Steel...
Apparently Elvis flew over and they dashed around London all night in a blacked-out car. It seems hard to believe this could have happened with absolutely no witnesses, but Steel himself was questioned about it and said: "I swore never to divulge publicly what happened.
“I can only hope he [Presley] can forgive me. It was an event shared by two young men sharing the same love of their music and the same thrill of achieving something unimaginable."
Full Story Here
The first was when he was demobbed and on his way back to the USA. his plane stopped at Glasgow Prestwick airport in Scotland, March 3rd 1960...
He disembarked and chatted with the press and the fans
Elvis was reportedly far more relaxed and approachable without his manager and entourage around him and spent time talking to fans before going inside for a press conference and then reboarding the transport plane.
The second time he visited was incognito at the invite of one of our top singers of the 60's Tommy Steel...
Apparently Elvis flew over and they dashed around London all night in a blacked-out car. It seems hard to believe this could have happened with absolutely no witnesses, but Steel himself was questioned about it and said: "I swore never to divulge publicly what happened.
“I can only hope he [Presley] can forgive me. It was an event shared by two young men sharing the same love of their music and the same thrill of achieving something unimaginable."
Full Story Here
CallMeKate
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Did Elvis know this about Parker, do you know? And if so, wonder why he continued the relationship/partnership?
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I hope u don't mind but I asked claude.ai this question. Here is the answer which I thought was fair and truthful.
This is an interesting claim about Colonel Tom Parker, Elvis Presley's manager. While it's true that Parker was born in the Netherlands and there have been longstanding rumors about his immigration status, I can't confirm with certainty all the details you've mentioned. However, I can discuss what is generally known about this situation.
Colonel Tom Parker's background was indeed mysterious for many years. It's now widely accepted that he was born Andreas Cornelis van Kuijk in Breda, Netherlands, in 1909. He likely entered the US illegally sometime in the 1920s, possibly by jumping ship in the port of New York as you suggest. He then adopted the name "Tom Parker" and created a new identity for himself.
As for Elvis's knowledge of Parker's background:
- It's unclear exactly when or if Elvis became fully aware of Parker's true origins and immigration status.
- Some biographers and associates have suggested that Elvis did eventually learn about Parker's past, but the exact timing is disputed.
- If Elvis did know, there could be several reasons why he maintained the relationship:
- Elvis was very loyal to those close to him.
- Parker had been instrumental in Elvis's success.
- By the time Elvis might have found out, their careers were deeply intertwined.
- There may have been contractual obligations that made separation difficult.
This topic involves some speculation and conflicting accounts, so while these points reflect common understandings, they should be taken with some caution. If you're interested in delving deeper into this subject, I'd recommend checking reputable biographies of Elvis Presley and Colonel Tom Parker for more detailed information.
I am not a expert on the history of Elvis but on the surface it always seemed like they had a somewhat unhealthy codependent partnership. Hopefully someone who knows more about Elvis and the Colonel can say if this is correct. But that could be one of the reasons as others have stated.
hollydolly
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have you noticed how those celebrities who had a co-dependant relationship on someone else.. rarely got to see old bones...
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From my understanding, Elvis signed a years-long contract he couldn't get out of that basically gave Parker control and/or ownership of just about everything, including Presley himself.
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Ahhhh.... well that makes sense. I wonder how Gladys felt about that? They were always so close and she seems to have been very protective (and rightly so... I think he needed someone watching over him to keep him away from those who would take advantage of him... but still Parker got close and controlled so much.) Interesting.
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You should watch the 2022 movie "Elvis". Even if you're not a fan (I never was), it's a very good move and an engrossing story. I'm a fan of Tom Hanks....he plays the Colonel.
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Also, Parker stood to earn way more money keeping Elvis in Vegas than he'd have earned from world tours, which are expensive.
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I'll have to check into it.
Yeah, really not a fan from "back then" because I wasn't born until '57 and those were his most popular years around then... but there are a few songs I really like and appreciate his talent.
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@CallMeKate
If Parker had allowed Elvis to progress or go in new directions musically, like he wanted to, he might have written and performed stuff I liked. But Parker wouldn't have it. I suppose he figured that a new, younger audience wouldn't be as financially stable and willing to spend as an older audience. (rightfully so)
If Parker had allowed Elvis to progress or go in new directions musically, like he wanted to, he might have written and performed stuff I liked. But Parker wouldn't have it. I suppose he figured that a new, younger audience wouldn't be as financially stable and willing to spend as an older audience. (rightfully so)
jimintoronto
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The young actor who played Elvis was outstanding, both in terms of his physical appearance, and his singing ability. I agree that Tom Hanks aced the part of Tom Parker, both in physical appearance and his vile personality. JimB
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I think I remember that Parker stole a ton of money from Elvis...actual cash through legal means. Do I remember right?
Because Priscilla's dad wouldn't let him take her that far away from the front porch other than in the U.S and Canada. What was she? Fourteen?
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Court records showed that Colonel Parker eventually took 50% of everything Elvis made. He even went so far as to negotiate power of attorney so that Elvis had no control over his own estate. In 1965, Colonel Tom Parker made $300,000 more than Elvis did