Why Kill This Lion?!

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"We are heartbroken to announce the death yesterday morning of a remarkable young woman, Alexandra Black, 22, who recently began a husbandry internship at the Conservators Center," the center said in a statement on New Year's Eve. "Alex was working with one of our husbandry teams cleaning a lion enclosure, when a lion who had been locked into a separate holding enclosure somehow managed to enter the enclosure in which our team was working and killed Alex."
Black was the only human who was injured. Matthai, the 14-year-old lion who attacked her, was also killed as a result of the incident.
"The lion was shot and killed to allow Caswell County personnel to retrieve the worker," reported Conservators Center. Attempts to tranquilize the lion were said to have been unsuccessful.

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So the lion is killed for doing what they do and for negligence of the fence builder? How come the tranquilizer did nor work? How long after the failure did they shoot it? Was this an animal on the loose? No! How pathetic.
 

Very sad. I wondered why the tranquilizer didn't work also.
 

Well, the tranquilizer did not work so there was no other option. A lot of questions but it comes down to, it had to be done. That lion and all other animals should not be in zoos. Let them stay in their natural habitat and if you want to see them, then take your chances in their environment!
 
terry123 said:
Well, the tranquilizer did not work so there was no other option. A lot of questions but it comes down to, it had to be done. That lion and all other animals should not be in zoos. Let them stay in their natural habitat and if you want to see them, then take your chances in their environment!
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I agree let animals be animals and respect them instead of locking them up and putting them on display for our personal enjoyment.
 
I haven't seen any story that states the lion was loose and a direct threat to anyone outside of the zoo worker that was already dead. So why kill the lion? There had to be other ways to get him under control even if the original attempt to tranquilize him was unsuccessful.
 
I agree. Killing the lion makes no sense at all.

I don't like zoos at all, and I think someday they will be considered a barbaric relic of the past.
 
Aunt Bea said:
I agree let animals be animals and respect them instead of locking them up and putting them on display for our personal enjoyment.
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EXACTLY. It’s a lack of common sense and intelligence on the human part. The lion is just being a lion. The humans are being stupid and inconsiderate . Not a good combination.
 
Sunny said:
I agree. Killing the lion makes no sense at all.

I don't like zoos at all, and I think someday they will be considered a barbaric relic of the past.
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Someday? You’d think as a society we’d already be there :shrug: but I guess there’s too much money being made off of exposing dangerous animals to the general public for mere amusement.
It’s embarrassing to be considered human at times
 
It makes sense to me that they didn't want the lion to eat the body. I'm sure the family of the dead woman wouldn't want that either.
Have you ever tried to take a mouse from a cat? Even little kitties can be very ferocious when defending their kill.
A lion or lioness might be very dangerous after making a kill. I reckon it would be an action of last resort, but a necessary one.
 
I have mixed feelings about this.

The lion had killed a young woman - who knows what may have happened next :shrug: Tranquilizer was attempted.

Remember when gorilla Hirambe was killed? And he had not hurt/killed someone. But the potential was there.

Then the incident yesterday when toddler fell/climbed into rhino pit.

Animals on exhibit in circuses and zoos...shaking my head.
 
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If we can rid ourselves of Big Game Hunters, who think it's a sport; then I'd support the end of zoos. As it is, species have gone extinct in the wild because of this barbaric practice. Improve the zoos.
 
The sedation medicine being used in the tranquilizer serum may have been out-dated. I can’t think of the name of the main ingredient used in tranquilizer sedation, but I do remember being taught that it does have a shelf life.

In this case, it’s an all around tragedy.
 
I also agree that the lion should have been, and was, put down. All we know is what is written, and, sometimes, the public isn't told the entire story.

As far as Big Game Hunting, or hunting in general, even though wife and I don't hunt, we totally support it. We have the Outdoor Channel and watch programs of Elk, White-Tail and Mule Deer hunting. Many folks out there like, even love, elk and deer meat. We love going to Bass Pro Sporting Goods Stores and viewing the wildlife mounts there, as well as going to Outdoor Recreational Conventions and seeing mounts there.

As far as zoo's go, again totally support them. We don't have the money to fly to Africa and take in a safari, even though we love to. Compared to the zoo here in Jacksonville, FL, the one in Denver, CO is absolutely superb and even has "Free Days" during the winter months. When we lived there, we seen a couple of bear cubs grow up to be full-size bears.

Not to change the topic, but we also liked going to the Ringling Bros. Circus, before it shut down. Took in the last performance, with the elephants in it, here in Jacksonville, but have a DVD video we bought of the performance. My wife absolutely loves the Big Cats.
 
When you take your children to the zoo say to them, "Look kids see how powerful and mighty we are. We find creatures in the natural habitat and steal them away so we can lock them up until they die and once in a while we just shoot them if they dare get out of line."
 
Aunt Bea said:
I agree let animals be animals and respect them instead of locking them up and putting them on display for our personal enjoyment.
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I agree, it's such a shame that this woman or the lion was killed, it seems it was just human error/neglect that allowed the lion to escape his 'locked' enclosure. I agree with Bea, Terry and others who would like to see the wild animals left to live naturally in their native habitats instead of being locked behind bars, often suffering abuse, just for the amusement of people. I'm another one who never liked circuses or zoos, even as a young child I felt sorry for the animals in captivity, and that was way before I learned of all the horrors that they suffer behind the scenes.
 
I've never liked zoos even as a kid. Of coarse no one will know why this animals attacked. Animals in the wild seem to kill for food or from fear or to protect young. I wonder what provoked this lion. Unfortunitially there are wildcats in captivity that were started as some kind of sick pet for a human. And these people probably don't like domesticated cats. A safe little wild cat who will agree to live with humans. And don't have paws the size of your head. As someone who had a grumpy cat who nailed me in the face more than once, I appreciated her paw size.

For sure people created this mess and the animals in the end suffer. As usual.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I agree, it's such a shame that this woman or the lion was killed, it seems it was just human error/neglect that allowed the lion to escape his 'locked' enclosure. I agree with Bea, Terry and others who would like to see the wild animals left to live naturally in their native habitats instead of being locked behind bars, often suffering abuse, just for the amusement of people. I'm another one who never liked circuses or zoos, even as a young child I felt sorry for the animals in captivity, and that was way before I learned of all the horrors that they suffer behind the scenes.
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What about dog agility contests, where their owners have them jump and crawl thru things. Another thing where a human is pushing an animal to do things. What will be next, protesting kids learning how to fish? Oh, that's already happened and it's really, really stupid. And, what about, in some parts of the country, older kids that learn how to shoot a rifle and hunt...…...and they love it.

Ok, I'll stop here.
 
Siegfried & Roy - gorgeous tigers, loved and well taken care of

BUT

one cannot predict what they will do or understand why. Just sayin'...

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ClassicRockr said:
I also agree that the lion should have been, and was, put down. All we know is what is written, and, sometimes, the public isn't told the entire story.

As far as Big Game Hunting, or hunting in general, even though wife and I don't hunt, we totally support it. We have the Outdoor Channel and watch programs of Elk, White-Tail and Mule Deer hunting. Many folks out there like, even love, elk and deer meat. We love going to Bass Pro Sporting Goods Stores and viewing the wildlife mounts there, as well as going to Outdoor Recreational Conventions and seeing mounts there.

As far as zoo's go, again totally support them. We don't have the money to fly to Africa and take in a safari, even though we love to. Compared to the zoo here in Jacksonville, FL, the one in Denver, CO is absolutely superb and even has "Free Days" during the winter months. When we lived there, we seen ea couple of bear cubs grow up to be full-size bears.

Not to change the topic, but we also liked going to the Ringling Bros. Circus, before it shut down. Took in the last performance, with the elephants in it, here in Jacksonville, but have a DVD video we bought of the performance. My wife absolutely loves the Big Cats.
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When I think of big game hunting, I think of hunting animals like the big cats, rhinos, elephants, etc. Some of these animals, we are running low on. The snow leopard, which has been said to be taken at least once per day is now on the endangered list. Such a beautiful animal will soon be gone.

As for elk, bison and such, hunting is controlled by licenses and seasons. Elk meat tastes better than venison, but bear is terrible, IMO. Bison is so-so. You can buy these meats at a Cabella’s store. My favorite wild meat is turkey, which is much better than domesticated.

People kill elephants for the tusks only because they can get a lot of money, but they leave the rest of the animal to the predators to eat. Same for rhinos. The baby seals are still being slaughtered for their pelt. Minks are farm grown and I understand that the mink coat business is still in demand.

If people kill an animal because they need to feed their family, which when I was a kid I knew some that did, then OK, otherwise, if people are killing animals for the trophy, why? I have seen hunter’s trophies and I was never impressed.
 
ClassicRockr said:
What about dog agility contests, where their owners have them jump and crawl thru things. Another thing where a human is pushing an animal to do things. What will be next, protesting kids learning how to fish? Oh, that's already happened and it's really, really stupid. And, what about, in some parts of the country, older kids that learn how to shoot a rifle and hunt...…...and they love it.

Ok, I'll stop here.
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:confused: What does dog agility contests have to do with wild animals being removed from their natural habitats and kept in cages, sometimes suffering mistreatment and abuse?? I don't get it! Are dogs being taken out of their natural habitat and kept in cages and abused....I don't think so.

I showed one of my dogs in a couple of obedience trials and obstacle courses just for fun, most dogs that do this thrive on it, they love the game and are treated with love as part of the family when they get home, mine slept in bed with us, ate the best foods and relaxed on the chairs and couches with us just like family. Because for dog lovers, they are no less than family.

You're way off base in your response to my post CR, apples and oranges. Fishing or shooting rifles and controlled seasonal and licensed hunting as Oldman mentioned has nothing to do with putting wild exotic animals in cages for their entire lives just for people's amusement. Think about it.
 
oldman said:
When I think of big game hunting, I think of hunting animals like the big cats, rhinos, elephants, etc. Some of these animals, we are running low on. The snow leopard, which has been said to be taken at least once per day is now on the endangered list. Such a beautiful animal will soon be gone.

As for elk, bison and such, hunting is controlled by licenses and seasons. Elk meat tastes better than venison, but bear is terrible, IMO. Bison is so-so. You can buy these meats at a Cabella’s store. My favorite wild meat is turkey, which is much better than domesticated.

People kill elephants for the tusks only because they can get a lot of money, but they leave the rest of the animal to the predators to eat. Same for rhinos. The baby seals are still being slaughtered for their pelt. Minks are farm grown and I understand that the mink coat business is still in demand.

If people kill an animal because they need to feed their family, which when I was a kid I knew some that did, then OK, otherwise, if people are killing animals for the trophy, why? I have seen hunter’s trophies and I was never impressed.
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I agree with you Oldman, animals who are in danger of becoming extinct should be left alone. Hunters who kill only for the trophies don't impress me either, they have serious personal 'issues' as far as I'm concerned. And those who participate in 'canned hunts', where the animals are fenced in and don't even have a chance to run away before getting killed by one of these so called hunters, should be behind cages themselves. I don't know how people can be so cruel to animals just for a cheap thrill. :(
 
Aunt Bea said:
I agree let animals be animals and respect them instead of locking them up and putting them on display for our personal enjoyment.
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I agree, but sometimes people acquire baby wild exotic animals and when they grow up and become uncontrollable, someone has to step in and "rescue" them. They can't live and survive in "the wild" because they were never taught how to do so.

I hate the idea of zoos and haven't been to one since I was fourteen. It's inhumane. Wildlife reserves where animals live free under protection is a different matter.
 

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