Why REAL Men Remove Their Hats

I wouldn't say all the residents are creating the situation. Many are just poor folk stuck with living there.

Went to NYC with a buddy in 1967 to be his best man at his wedding. His fiance lived in Harlem and when we arrived at the projects and were getting out of the car, he turned to me and said, "Remember this is Harlem and you're white." It was a lovely wedding, though . . .
 

That Guy said:
I wouldn't say all the residents are creating the situation. Many are just poor folk stuck with living there.

Went to NYC with a buddy in 1967 to be his best man at his wedding. His fiance lived in Harlem and when we arrived at the projects and were getting out of the car, he turned to me and said, "Remember this is Harlem and you're white." It was a lovely wedding, though . . .
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Heh, heh ... I used to walk (when I was feeling energetic) from Yonkers to Manhattan's Chinatown - about 15 miles - when I was a lad, and my route would take me through Harlem. I too stood out like an albino spider on a chocolate cake, and whether it was because I didn't look menacing enough, didn't look rich enough, or it was just true that the angels look out for idiots and fools, I'm not sure, but nothing ever happened to me there.

Now mid-town and lower Manhattan and the outer boroughs, THAT was a different story. :rolleyes:
 

SifuPhil;11665 it was just true that the angels look out for idiots and fools said:
It's true. There's been something or someone watching over me all my life. Survived too many bad situations to count. Thank-you my angel.
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SifuPhil said:
Thanks, folks, but it was simply a case of intimidation.
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I learned a gazillion years ago to alway make "them" think you're about one notch crazier than they are.

That being said, I know some very sweet-faced women that could not pull off wearing one of my biker T's into the bar where the EXIT light had been shot out, and get away with peacefully putting a quarter in the pool table, much less order a drink. I never considered myself a "rough customer" but people were never quite sure what to make of me, so pretty much left me alone.
 
TWHRider said:
I learned a gazillion years ago to alway make "them" think you're about one notch crazier than they are.

That being said, I know some very sweet-faced women that could not pull off wearing one of my biker T's into the bar where the EXIT light had been shot out, and get away with peacefully putting a quarter in the pool table, much less order a drink. I never considered myself a "rough customer" but people were never quite sure what to make of me, so pretty much left me alone.
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So very true. A comic once said that if you want to walk the streets of NYC without being accosted, you should forget to shower for a few weeks and push a shopping cart full of garbage.

Of course, the comic said this in the '70's, before they actually started beating-up homeless people, so maybe that particular brand of insanity wouldn't apply now. But I've had my times - when I was bouncing, as one confrontation was coming to a head with a mountain of a man I suddenly broke out my "gay voice" (I do a superb one - don't ask!) and he was so confused that the other bouncers had time to back me up and escort him outside.

One piece of "act crazy" advice I never had any use for, though, was when they told women to act crazy, drool and wet themselves if they were going to be raped. This came from a time when the "authorities" on such matters still believed rape was a crime about sex, not violence and power.

Sadly, I still see such information being offered at seminars and in self-defense classes. :mad:
 
maggis said:
Banks,servos' and some smaller family shops have that rule and I agree with it, most service stations round here now employ a security guard at night too
as incidences of robbing and thuggery are rising lately and believe it or not some of the 'criminals' are 13/15 yrs old, where're the parents?
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It's the same here . Some business ask that dark sunglasses are not worn and I'm in total agreement
 
SifuPhil said:
One piece of "act crazy" advice I never had any use for, though, was when they told women to act crazy, drool and wet themselves if they were going to be raped. This came from a time when the "authorities" on such matters still believed rape was a crime about sex, not violence and power.

Sadly, I still see such information being offered at seminars and in self-defense classes. :mad:
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That probably would come naturally :distress:... then the kicking and biting starts..
 
I have been a victim of profiling as a biker when most of America's attitude about bikers was influenced by Hells Angels and other rowdy bike Clubs or gangs. It may have helped make a law abiding citizen out of me. Put up the signs, let the chips fall where they will.
 
Boo's Mom said:
That probably would come naturally :distress:... then the kicking and biting starts..
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OR; as we were taught, if it seems there's no other way to stop it, grab, pull, and twist. Graphic, yes, but I think that would be enough to disable an attacker for a minute or two.......:eek:
 
Anne said:
OR; as we were taught, if it seems there's no other way to stop it, grab, pull, and twist. Graphic, yes, but I think that would be enough to disable an attacker for a minute or two.......:eek:
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No holds barred. No holding back. Go all out. Go for the eyes, the throat, the groin. Fight to kill. Fight to live.
 
I think head coverings of any kind should be removed when entering a building,motor cycle riders have to remove helmets here, so I think if its good enough for 1 then its good enough for all.
 
Phil:
1. Do you think this is prejudiced or profiling?
2. If you were a victimized shopkeeper would you put up a sign like this?
3. How would you enforce it, short of having a law passed?

1. NO, ITA with people being made to remove hoodies. Baseball caps are to cover a bad hair day or they are for me anyway. Some men just don't feel comfortable w/o one (which I don't get, but whatever!) And they don't cover your face. Almost every robbery I see on TV, they're wearing a hoodie....something to keep you warm and you don't need the protection from the cold inside a store.

2. Yes, and would have no problem with it, but it would have to include "all hats" to avoid multiple problems.

3. Same way as "no shoes, no service." But that seems way too simplistic and I'm not sure you could enforce it without a lot of problems unless a law was passed.
 
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Ozarkgal said:
Just read that mail carriers are refusing to deliver mail in parts of Brooklyn, as some of the buildings are so crime infested they are afraid for their lives. Yet, although the residents are the ones creating the situation, they're complaining because they have to hook it on down to the P.O. to get their mail.

Don'tcha just feel for those thugs and dealers that are being inconvenienced:(

"..neither rain nor snow nor heat of day nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their annointed tasks".......but fear hoodlums, dealers and gangstas..now that's another story
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And there's not enough money to pay me to be a pizza or any type delivery guy there or anywhere. Carrying cash??!!! No way!!
 
Baby, take off your coat...(real slow) Baby, take off your shoes...(here, I'll take your shoes)
Baby, take off your dress
Yes, yes, yes
You can leave your hat on
You can leave your hat on
You can leave your hat on
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-- Randy Newman
 
For some weird reason, I can't "reply with quote."

From that guy:

Baby, take off your coat...(real slow) Baby, take off your shoes...(here, I'll take your shoes)
Baby, take off your dress
Yes, yes, yes
You can leave your hat on
You can leave your hat on
You can leave your hat on

Recognized the lyrics immediately. Joe Cocker did a rendition of it years ago.
 
I know this is an old thread, but just wanted to add....... Hoods have been associated with thieves and villains for a very long time ( think, Robin Hood!) In medieval times hoods were worn by the lowly and favoured by criminals for the reason of obscuring the face. such a shame that they have made a comeback in the fashion stakes.Various shopping malls have signs here to prevent anyone in hoods shopping there.
 
My banks and credit union all have signs asking you to remove hats and sunglasses. I'll take my sunglasses off, but usually if I'm wearing a hat it's because I'm suffering from BAD.HAIR.DAY (and when I suffer from BAD.HAIR.DAY, I MEAN really bad hair day...I could cause dogs to bark, small children to cry and pregnant women to miscarry.) No way am I going to take off my hat. I've yet to be asked to remove it.

Now when a border crossing guard asks me to remove my hat (as they always do), I promptly remove my hat. If he wants to turn to stone because he's looked at my Medusa-hair, that's his concern.
 
oakapple said:
I know this is an old thread, but just wanted to add....... Hoods have been associated with thieves and villains for a very long time ( think, Robin Hood!) In medieval times hoods were worn by the lowly and favoured by criminals for the reason of obscuring the face. such a shame that they have made a comeback in the fashion stakes.Various shopping malls have signs here to prevent anyone in hoods shopping there.
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Robin Hood? That's not a villain...

THIS is a villain!

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