Why Was It Necessary To Shoot This Child 11 Times?!!

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Salt Lake City, Utah: A 13 year old autistic boy in was shot 11 times after police were called by his mother to help get him to the hospital for his mental issues. What happened to the days when police were told to shoot to wound or disable and 11 shots would not have been necessary? Even though the boy has obvious mental issues, in this case when police approached him, he was not armed but his mother said seeing police freaked him out. The shooting left him in serious condition. Your thoughts?
https://news.sky.com/story/linden-c...-being-shot-multiple-times-by-police-12078584
 

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Salt Lake City, Utah: A 13 year old autistic boy in was shot 11 times after police were called by his mother to help get him to the hospital for his mental issues. What happened to the days when police were told to shoot to wound or disable and 11 shots would not have been necessary? Even though the boy has obvious mental issues, in this case when police approached him, he was not armed but his mother said seeing police freaked him out. The shooting left him in serious condition. Your thoughts?
https://news.sky.com/story/linden-c...-being-shot-multiple-times-by-police-12078584
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No excuse for that abuse of power. Makes one think these day before they call the police for any concern like this, too many times it ends badly. Wish the best for the victim. :(
 
The only reason the child survived was because the cop was running & he couldn't have a steady hold & because his heart was racing.
And, ever wonder why cops always yell, "Show me your hands" over & over while the suspect is on the ground, unconscious or dead?
They are making sure witnesses hear that to justify their actions - "I kept shooting him because I couldn't see his hands."
Cops also yell "Stop Resisting" over & over while they continue beating a suspect who is not resisting - for the same reason.
 
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911 said:
Just to be clear, “IF” the facts are as written and are true, we do not teach the procedures as described in this article.

We have a whole different method to control the situation as described.
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Just to be clear...... your first reaction is to defend the police?

I know you are going to think I’m picking on you but you seem to completely lack empathy for the child here. Is this not horrible to you?
 
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911 said:
Just to be clear, “IF” the facts are as written and are true, we do not teach the procedures as described in this article.

We have a whole different method to control the situation as described.
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As far as I know the facts are true. This is one of my greatest fears for my son. I live Utah. The police have been called to the group home my son lives in for the misbehavior of one of the other residents.

It is not unusual for our police department to shoot people, IMO.

Edited to add: we still have the firing squad for the death penalty. It was stopped in 2004 and has been reinstated.
 
Keesha said:
Just to be clear...... your first reaction is to defend the police?

I know you are going to think I’m picking on you but you seem to completely lack empathy for the child here. Is this not horrible you?
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Absolutely not. I’m not defending the police. I was only stating that the Pennsylvania State Police does not teach the handling of the same situation by the methods described in the article.

Unless, I missed it, the article does not state that the young man showed a weapon, only that he had threatened to use one. The articles read that there was no indication of a weapon and that the young man only had either a BB gun or pellet gun. Some guns are capable of shooting either.

If the article is 100% accurate, I can assure anyone that we would have handled the situation differently and no one would have been injured.
 
Aneeda72 said:
As far as I know the facts are true. This is one of my greatest fears for my son. I live Utah. The police have been called to the group home my son lives in for the misbehavior of one of the other residents.

It is not unusual for our police department to shoot people, IMO.

Edited to add: we still have the firing squad for the death penalty. It was stopped in 2004 and has been reinstated.
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Yes, I read that the firing squad was reinstated in Utah. I never agreed with that method. I think it’s barbaric next to hanging.

Tell your son that if the police arrive at the group home he is in to raise his hands above his head.
 
911 said:
Absolutely not. I’m not defending the police. I was only stating that the Pennsylvania State Police does not teach the handling of the same situation by the methods described in the article.

Unless, I missed it, the article does not state that the young man showed a weapon, only that he had threatened to use one. The articles read that there was no indication of a weapon and that the young man only had either a BB gun or pellet gun. Some guns are capable of shooting either.

If the article is 100% accurate, I can assure anyone that we would have handled the situation differently and no one would have been injured.
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Ok. It could be that my perception is off because it still seems like you are defending the police. My apologies if your concern was geared more towards the child and I somehow missed it.
 
911 said:
Yes, I read that the firing squad was reinstated in Utah. I never agreed with that method. I think it’s barbaric next to hanging.

Tell your son that if the police arrive at the group home he is in to raise his hands above his head.
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"Yes, I read that the firing squad was reinstated in Utah. I never agreed with that method. I think it’s barbaric next to hanging. "

Barbaric to whom ? The dead guy doesn't know , he's dead.

Why are we always looking for a nice way to kill someone that has committed a capital offence ?
 
rgp said:
"Yes, I read that the firing squad was reinstated in Utah. I never agreed with that method. I think it’s barbaric next to hanging. "

Barbaric to whom ? The dead guy doesn't know , he's dead.

Why are we always looking for a nice way to kill someone that has committed a capital offence ?
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This is my opinion (Because of reasons, which do not need discussing.), which I am entitled to. I didn’t ask, nor do I expect anyone to agree with. Enough said.
 
If the boy was armed does drastically alter the police response, But they are chasing him around, and do not report a weapon. . This episode is exactly what police are going to be forced to deal with. Again, this episode shows the ;lack of police training,, and the lack of oversight. And the quick response with a weapon. Unfortunately, I know how difficult it is to deal with a strong, fit, psychotic male, without injurying him , nor anyone else. I've harped on this before, but this is what happens when your police force is taught by OJT ( On the Job Training). There is a lack of knowledge, and sophistication; plus you wind up with a casualty count.
BTW, if the kid did NOT have a weapon, I really don't see why the police shouldn't be charged with a crime.
 
Keesha said:
Just to be clear...... your first reaction is to defend the police?

I know you are going to think I’m picking on you but you seem to completely lack empathy for the child here. Is this not horrible to you?
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Cops are pre-wired and pre-programmed to protect their own, regardless of how foolish it makes them look. The "Brotherhood."
 

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