Why Was It Necessary To Shoot This Child 11 Times?!!

Following are excerpts from the article:

She told officers she thought it was a BB gun or pellet gun, but, while there were no indications he was armed, officers said they would have to proceed as though the boy did have access to a real gun.

Salt Lake City Police Sergeant Keith Horrocks told reporters there was no indication when they attended that the boy was armed and the incident was now being investigated.

So, why was it necessary to shoot this child?
 

911 said:
Yes, I read that the firing squad was reinstated in Utah. I never agreed with that method. I think it’s barbaric next to hanging.

Tell your son that if the police arrive at the group home he is in to raise his hands above his head.
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Uh.....sure....."Tell someone with a mental disability to raise his hands above his head" & expect them to follow instructions. If they can't, just shoot, then say "He resisted" and "I feared for my life....I wanted to get home to my family.....my job is difficult.....don't criticize my actions.....I'm a hero."
 
win231 said:
Uh.....sure....."Tell someone with a mental disability to raise his hands above his head" & expect them to follow instructions. If they can't, just shoot, then say "He resisted" and "I feared for my life....I wanted to get home to my family.....my job is difficult.....don't criticize my actions.....I'm a hero."
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You have to teach them, but If they were born with “Down Syndrome” they are not considered a risk.
 

About the shooting incident-I don't know anything about the Salt Lake City Police Dept., but it looks like another case of inadequate training at best.

Aneeda72 said:
we still have the firing squad for the death penalty. It was stopped in 2004 and has been reinstated.
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I'm neither for nor against the death penalty, but the firing squad is quick, effective and not any more barbaric than injecting a witch's brew of medications, which sometimes fail in some respect.
 
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Nathan said:
About the shooting incident-I don't know anything about the Salt Lake City Police Dept., but it looks like another case of inadequate training at best.



I'm neither for nor against the death penalty, but the firing squad is quick, effective and not any more barbaric than injecting a witch's brew of medications, which sometimes fail in some respect.
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People used to be given a choice the firing squad or whatever else was offered. I assume there is still a choice available. Utah, unlike other states IMO, is not reluctant about its use of the death penalty.
 
911 said:
You have to teach them, but If they were born with “Down Syndrome” they are not considered a risk.
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It’s not about what disability a person has, it’s their actions. But with an IQ of 53, a hearing loss, and a tendency to panic when stressed my son would be in danger from any encounter with police if he were upset.

I was stopped a few times on my way home from work by police even though I had disabled plates and am an older woman. I had a van and it could clearly be seen that I had a walker in the back of my it. Same for a friend of mine, in the same “shape” as me with disability plates.

My husband was stopped once, and held at gun point, until they determined same type of car, wrong person. Again, late in the evening, on the way to work. The police, in this state, have always been a bit over the top.
 
I googled it. Last year 19 people were killed by police in Utah, and 30 more were shot at. True ly, it’s the Wild West here.
 
Lewkat said:
EMS, should have been called. They'd have handled it professionally.
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SURE.... Let the unarmed , unprotected guys get attacked.....
I have been assaulted more than once by out of control folks... from intoxicated on crap to mental cases....
We do have a system set up that LEO stand by, but still have seen the increased agitation just by their presents..
and at times... they think WE are the cops.... cost me 3 cracked ribs one time...
Kicked in the chest because the young man THOUGHT I was a cop....
 
911 said:
This is my opinion (Because of reasons, which do not need discussing.), which I am entitled to. I didn’t ask, nor do I expect anyone to agree with. Enough said.
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And I to didn't ask , nor expect agreement from anyone, but also i to am entitled to my opinion. And in my opinion there is nothing wrong with either hanging or firing squad.
 
Aneeda72 said:
I googled it. Last year 19 people were killed by police in Utah, and 30 more were shot at. True ly, it’s the Wild West here.
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What were these people doing when they were shot at & killed by the police ? Committing a crime perhaps? Running from the police perhaps ? If one is going to do that? Then they sure as hell are putting themselves in harms way.

Would you prefer the police ignore the crime committed ? And just let theses thugs run free ?
 
rgp said:
What were these people doing when they were shot at & killed by the police ? Committing a crime perhaps? Running from the police perhaps ? If one is going to do that? Then they sure as hell are putting themselves in harms way.

Would you prefer the police ignore the crime committed ? And just let theses thugs run free ?
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I did not google all the reasons or justifications but perhaps you can explain why a 13 year old disabled child was shot 11 times or even once? And running from the police-you consider that a justification for deadly force? 🤦🏻‍♀️
 
Aneeda72 said:
I did not google all the reasons or justifications but perhaps you can explain why a 13 year old disabled child was shot 11 times or even once? And running from the police-you consider that a justification for deadly force? 🤦🏻‍♀️
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I responded to your post #32 . I never mentioned anything about the shooting of the child.

As for running from the police , yes IMO that justifies what ever the police on scene deem necessary to stop a fleeing suspect.
 
Keesha said:
Some people must enjoy ‘real’ violence, no matter who it is or why it’s being done and if the police are doing it then it HAS to be justified.
Total wackos.🙄🥶
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So it is total wacho to support the police ? And be against crime/criminals ?

And BTW, I never said a thing about "enjoying" any aspect of it .
 
hollydolly said:
I read that the mother told the police that the youth had an air gun or pistol
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The article says the mother thought he had a bb gun or pellet gun. She had told the police earlier that he "had" a gun, which could mean anything from running around, shooting people with it, or just the fact that he owned a gun. The mother said he was freaked by police. So why then did she call the police? Something is definitely "off" in this whole story.
 
The root problem here is that parents of mentally ill children are forced to call the police when their child is out of control and needs hospitalization when they should be calling doctors. We need to reopen many of the psychiatric hospitals that were closed during the deinstitutionalization movement of the 1970's. That resulted in hundreds of thousands of mentally ill people living homeless on the streets and the need to call police when we should be calling psychiatric nurses and orderlies to come prepared with syringes of Haldol rather than guns.

If the mother had called the hospital they would have told her she had to call the police to bring him in. It's standard procedure these days if we want to get care for our mentally ill children.
 
rgp said:
I responded to your post #32 . I never mentioned anything about the shooting of the child.

As for running from the police , yes IMO that justifies what ever the police on scene deem necessary to stop a fleeing suspect.
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Your opinion is not the law. This cop was convicted of murder when he did that & sentenced to 20 years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Walter_Scott

AND, after shooting the suspect, the cop & another cop planted their weapons next to the body to try to justify the shooting. AND, you can clearly hear the cop yelling "Put your hands behind your back" when he knew the suspect was DEAD.
Of course, these two "Heroes" didn't know someone was taping them.
 
win231 said:
Your opinion is not the law. This cop was convicted of murder when he did that & sentenced to 20 years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Walter_Scott

AND, after shooting the suspect, the cop & another cop planted their weapons next to the body to try to justify the shooting. AND, you can clearly hear the cop yelling "Put your hands behind your back" when he knew the suspect was DEAD.
Of course, these two "Heroes" didn't know someone was taping them.
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Well, I never said my opinion was the law. But it should be.

Just like when the FBI shot down Charles "Pretty-Boy" Floyd , & or when Frank Hammer pursued "Bonnie & Clyde" & ended their crime spree.

Why is it that today there are so many that want to romanticize these thugs ? Coddle them & treat them with kid gloves? Much of society worries more about the rights of the criminal(s) than they do the victims. And when they [the police] catch them in the act of committing a crime, dealing drugs, making drugs, running guns ....whatever, and a gun battle ensues .... society is more scrutinizing of the police, than what the criminals were up to. ........?
 
win231 said:
Your opinion is not the law. This cop was convicted of murder when he did that & sentenced to 20 years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Walter_Scott

AND, after shooting the suspect, the cop & another cop planted their weapons next to the body to try to justify the shooting. AND, you can clearly hear the cop yelling "Put your hands behind your back" when he knew the suspect was DEAD.
Of course, these two "Heroes" didn't know someone was taping them.
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Why did Scott run, for a taillight out ?? Had he just pulled over , stopped & put his hands on the wheel , like we're supposed to...he'd still be alive today. He killed himself, through his actions.

I have no sympathy for him.
 
rgp said:
Well, I never said my opinion was the law. But it should be.

Just like when the FBI shot down Charles "Pretty-Boy" Floyd , & or when Frank Hammer pursued "Bonnie & Clyde" & ended their crime spree.

Why is it that today there are so many that want to romanticize these thugs ? Coddle them & treat them with kid gloves? Much of society worries more about the rights of the criminal(s) than they do the victims. And when they [the police] catch them in the act of committing a crime, dealing drugs, making drugs, running guns ....whatever, and a gun battle ensues .... society is more scrutinizing of the police, than what the criminals were up to. ........?
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Sure. And cops should also be allowed to plant weapons to justify murder. And cops should also be allowed to plant drugs on a suspect who isn't their favorite color.
You only like criminals who wear a police uniform.
 
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