Why We Fear Them, More and More

"When law enforcement behaves in a violent, out of control manner, what happens next?"

What happens next, ma'am, is that L.E. becomes emboldened, as it has the last decade or two, and, supported by high court decisions in their favor, we revert to a society that Mr. Hitler referred to as a "safe" society, for the "first time in history"! Am so glad you saw fit to become repulsed by this report. As the cops become increasingly heavy-handed, more folks of a less than tolerant attitude become pissed-off beyond their limit to endure, and go out to start killing. Saw it again today, was it in Tennessee? imp
 

Can anyone say jackboot society? Who are the good guys???? The lines are blurring.....as always, violence begets more violence. The politics of rage terrify me. Homeland insecurity here we come.
 
So who protects us from the cops?

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Great photo QS. And you are right Phil, we can't live without police because the crooks would run amok, BUT at the same time, they have to be called to account when they misbehave and to often that doesn't seem to happen when you hear about those situations.

Mind you, we had a Kelowna cop who was seen by a citizen to fail to signal a turn and was driving while looking at his computer screen instead of eyes on the road. When the citizen pulled up alongside and gave him a 'WTF man' shrug of the shoulders and pointing down at the seat beside the cop, he was pulled over and verbally harassed and held at roadside for about ten minutes with the threat that they were waiting for a 'specialist' to join them to look over their vehicle for infractions. Long story short, the cop finally let him go I guess with the advice probably to drive safely (and mind his own business).

So the guy and his girlfriend who was driving, didn't complain to the detachment but somehow the cops did see the young fellows Facebook page where he'd posted the video that he'd been secretly recording, of the incident and I believe the cop is now being investigated. Not quite the same calibre of confrontation as we've been seeing of late in your country with cops shooting people, but still, one more example of a cop with a really rotten attitude about his own bad behaviour.

But you know folks, what I took away from that (besides you have a right to be nervous if the cops pull you over these days) is that your Facebook/Twitter accounts are being monitored to some degree even at the local police level.
 
Confused a bit with these descriptions. I was thinking that the ones attempting to enter this persons home were not actually police at all. I think they were of a 'detective' type agency attempting to make an arrest but at the wrong address. A policeman's home. So we have a self made 'protector' actually attempting to arrest a true protector. Much of the facts still lie behind the TV camera and need exposed.
 
I've said it before....there are too many police that are ex military.

That just describes those most willing to bring peace and safety to the rest of us. Sure don't want only desk top police working for us do we? We need those willing to face some problems and help bring peace to our communities. Desk top whiner's just can not do the job. We need those willing to work with folks and willing to face occasional danger to do the job properly.
 
Jackie22 said:
I've said it before....there are too many police that are ex military.
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until folks are willing to pay for graduate counsellors to be cops your lucky to get military, as you are unwilling to take your own self defense in hand -- you get what you deserve
 
There was 80,000 SWAT call outs in the U.S. Last year. Does that mean the crime rate is up?
 
When I clicked on the link in Imp's original post I got the red screen from my McAfee security. ​"Warning! Trouble ahead! Are you sure you want to go there? That means there is a virus, malware or something dreadful there.
 
Actually... no the crime rate is DOWN..

http://lawstreetmedia.com/crime-america-2015-top-10-dangerous-cities-200000-2/

Detroit... Down 2.5% from 2014

Oakland California down 1%

Memphis down 10%

Cleveland.. increased due to robberies, but murder down

Baltimore down <1%

Milwaukee... moved up in list

Birmingham... down 11%

Newark.. up

Kansas city down. <1%


AND... for the city people LOVE to cite as so violent... Chicago... Crime down a whopping 15% at the end of 2014. reaching historic lows.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Chicago-Crime-Reaches-Historic-Low-in-2014-287282501.html










 
rt3 said:
until folks are willing to pay for graduate counsellors to be cops your lucky to get military, as you are unwilling to take your own self defense in hand -- you get what you deserve
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Are you saying that if someone does not "pack" they deserve to be victims of crime?

Here's what people "deserve" from the police. They deserve to be SERVED and PROTECTED...
 
Don't care if you pack or if your a victim
police have no duty to protect and serve, Supreme Court ruled on that years ago. See if you can find it on a cop car.
We can thank Obama forthe statistics you have quoted, as the number of guns in private hands have doubled since his crowning, and he has helped arm the sheep more than Clintons. Concealed permits have tripled especially among women.
Lucky you live in "castle" suburbs. Have a cop in for coffee and thank them.
 
QuickSilver said:
That's a joke..... Right?
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Yes and no.

If you're a dyed-in-the-wool crazy with a subterranean safe-room filled with high-powered firearms and every police incident like this is a sign of the End Times, then no, this isn't a joke.

But for us "normal" people - yes, it's a joke.

Yes, we should be able to be armed - but if it ever came down to "us" verse "them" I'm afraid it would be a zero-sum game - everyone would be gone.

The only apparent way I can see for this to change is to figure out a way to police the police. Not easy, and I can't see the police liking it much, but that's what I see.
 
rt3 said:
Don't care if you pack or if your a victim
police have no duty to protect and serve, Supreme Court ruled on that years ago. See if you can find it on a cop car.
We can thank Obama forthe statistics you have quoted, as the number of guns in private hands have doubled since his crowning, and he has helped arm the sheep more than Clintons. Concealed permits have tripled especially among women.
Lucky you live in "castle" suburbs. Have a cop in for coffee and thank them.
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Yes they DO....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_protect_and_to_serve

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Police want more crime because it's a business, they have a monopoly on enforcement. The stats QS gave were cooked.

Google chicago crime statistics. Heyjackass.com


baltimore same thing, murder up. Police stats showing lower rates.
 
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