Why We Fear Them, More and More

QuickSilver said:
Don't even try to explain the difference.. it won't be believed or understood
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Lol, I get it. You have been called a communist so many times its personnel.

i have a good Asian friend who during the Irag war, wore a sweat shirt that said, "no really I'm Mexican "


i guess Lenin was right when he said to Rasputin, "fate does have a sense of humor" eh tovarisch?
 

imp said:
"The only apparent way I can see for this to change is to figure out a way to police the police"

But how to "police" the police who police the lowest police? Seems to me, that belief in the Founding Father's definition of "Militia" as being the people at large, is supportive of "policing the police", is it not? imp
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Not sure about that, Imp. I thought the militia was for more conventional enemies - that the founding fathers hadn't counted on having to police any police.

There are supposedly Internal Affairs divisions who are scrupulously clean - their job is to police the lowest ones.
 
"Marauding Bands...."

QuickSilver said:
Certainly NOT with marauding bands of civilians, armed to the teeth, roaming the streets to police the police.. Whatever could go wrong?

The best way would be for body cams on every cop.. and a fine for conveniently turning them off. Should a police shooting happen, it should be reviewed by a Special Prosecutor.. not in any way connected with the jurisdiction of the accused cop.
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QS, certainly marauding bands of civilians would be a preface to dissolution of the country, no? But are you ignoring the fact that there exists in America, a very, very strong "Gun Culture", the members of which number in the millions, their firearms in the hundreds of millions. The fact of the existence of an already-armed civilian populace ought to dispel concerns of them joining the ranks of the criminal element, by marauding in the streets, don't you think? They exist, so do their firearms, they go about their business, along with that part of the society choosing to not be armed. imp
 

imp said:
QS, certainly marauding bands of civilians would be a preface to dissolution of the country, no? But are you ignoring the fact that there exists in America, a very, very strong "Gun Culture", the members of which number in the millions, their firearms in the hundreds of millions. The fact of the existence of an already-armed civilian populace ought to dispel concerns of them joining the ranks of the criminal element, by marauding in the streets, don't you think? They exist, so do their firearms, they go about their business, along with that part of the society choosing to not be armed. imp
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Well said.
 
What has done the US well for over 200 years should be good for quite a few more years. Also in the hundreds would be nice.
 
Gun violence is alive and well in the U.S. The vast majority of it takes place in the inner cities...among those in the drug and street gang cultures. In the past couple of years, the media has erupted over reportedly unarmed Blacks being killed by cops...yet when the circumstances are fully revealed, failure to halt and obey the cops instructions seems to be the catalyst that causes these confrontations to escalate. At the same time, when the cop kills a White person under similar circumstances, the media is strangely quiet. How many have heard of this incident??

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-police-his-family-asks-where-is-the-outrage/

Insofar as condemning all cops for the actions of a very few, and castigating legal responsible gun owners, it is wise to remember that "When danger is only Seconds away, the Police are only Minutes Away".

Increasing crime...home invasions/burglaries, etc., was one of the reasons we moved away from the city, and took up the country life. Out here, virtually everyone owns firearms and were anyone stupid enough to try to break into someones house out here, and the homeowner was home, there is a very good chance that this would be their Last criminal act. Consequently, our local weekly police report usually consists of a couple of DUI's, perhaps a petty theft, an occasional traffic accident, and the invariable barking dog keeping someone awake at night.
 
QuickSilver said:
Guess it depends on what sort of America you want to live in..
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Collectively, we all must live in the America presented before us. We can change some things, others we cannot. Individually, we may each live our lives in disagreement with the mores and values of others, each side of the conflicting opinions having merit of their own.

Why can't we all live together? imp
 
Why can't we all live together? imp
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That's Easy....we can't live together because it is NOT in the best interests of the Oligarchs who increasing run this...and most other nations...to allow us to do so. So long as they can keep the Liberals and Conservatives hurling insults at each other, the Oligarchy can continue to have its way. If the political extremists could learn to sit down together and find common solutions, they might do something as drastic as eliminating 99% of the IRS tax dodges and loopholes that allow the Ultra wealthy to continue to widen the disparity in income, and cement their power over the nation.

People are their own worst enemies.
 
WEll... maybe the gun culture is winning.. so why fight it.. Thinking of getting a glock and carrying it in my purse..

Do you like the all pink? Or maybe the two tone black and pink.. I can't decide. Do they come in other colors?

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I understand they come with lots of accessories... I always need to make sure I am well dressed.. Maybe just a basic Black.... with a touch of pink?

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I'm leaning toward basic black... and dressing it up with different colored clips and accessories.. You can't go wrong with basic black..can you.
 
While reductio ad absurdum examples are fun, it would be best if you two went to a shooting school so you wouldn't hurt yourselves. On the other hand, while you two are dancing arm and arm through the school door singing Yellowbrick road, it would be amusing to see the look on some of the other students faces to see people so far away from their daily envoirment.
the irony here is that the easiest gun to learn and use is the ar15, the glock would probably pose some dexterity issues.
 
rt3 said:
While reductio ad absurdum examples are fun, it would be best if you two went to a shooting school so you wouldn't hurt yourselves. On the other hand, while you two are dancing arm and arm through the school door singing Yellowbrick road, it would be amusing to see the look on some of the other students faces to see people so far away from their daily envoirment.
the irony here is that the easiest gun to learn and use is the ar15, the glock would probably pose some dexterity issues.
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Why should we? It's not required...
 

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