Your opinion on the gay lifestyle?

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rgp said:
Well, you said be honest, you have thick skin, etc. So....One gripe with them is the name itself. [Gay] meaning queer. I mean if they are so proud .... thats great, be proud of what you are .... queer .... quit hiding behind a word that used to mean 'happy'

And why do they need all this special attention ? Pride month, parades , their own flag etc. Just be who you are, love who you choose , screw who you choose. Quit making such a spectical of yourselves.

I used to work with a guy that was queer [Gary] He was a great guy, and a damn good employee. He worked in dispatch, and was a record keeping fanatic <grin> made our jobs, mechanics/crew chiefs/ machinist / fabricators etc. allot easier when we needed something.

Another queer guy was hired up in the office. He was such a 'flamer' ..... he even pissed Gary off. Gary told him that he was making his [Gary's] life at work much harder The boss decided to transfer the other guy out, Gary supported the boss.

No I do not agree with your lifestyle, but you are of course entitled to it. As such I wish you well each and every day.
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Yes, I did ask everyone to be honest, so thank you for your candor.
 
I don't believe it's any of my business what type of lifestyle and preferences someone has. As long as they are not hurting me and they are not, I'm fine. I have gay family members and they are very nice people. And also there is a spectrum that people fall into concerning gay and hetero and I don't fall 100% into the hetero area anyways. Many of us don't and that's just being human. We are all different.
 
JonSR77 said:
You wrote:

Keep your private life just that, private.


Well, you know, that is kind of nasty and aggressively so. Would you say the same thing if some gal on here talked about a romantic date with her husband??? So, don't single out people.

Also, you might want to take a deeper dive into why other people's lives make you that angry. Because you are not angry at them, you are angry at something else. Maybe some kind of abuse you suffered as a kid. That is really what is making you angry...and your brain is just processing it in a way you turn it into anger at people you don't even know.

I would lay strong odds that you were the victim of some kind of abuse as a kid, or the victim of some kind of trauma. And that abuse or trauma might have absolutely nothing to do with gay people, sexuality, anything. You probably just have some kind of psychological sore spot inside you. And if you address that in counseling, you are likely to be happier in your life.

I know this because in 1982, I was kidnapped and held for a week, by some lunatics. I know that trauma can express itself in all kinds of ways. Sometimes, after getting triggered, I will just be angry at everyone and everything. But it doesn't mean it is them, it is crossed wires in the brain.

I am straight. I had gay woman friend, who was a model and drop dead gorgeous. We went to a movie and secretly I was hoping that, well, she might not be as gay as she thought she was.

This gorgeous blond came on the screen and at the exact same time, we both muttered "D*mn..."

You just can't make that up.

Gay folks are just romantically and physically attracted to the same sex.

You say it is repulsive?

Hey, c'mon. I am a guy. I know what guys think about women. I know all the sick, disgusting thoughts about women that are constantly going through our heads.

You definitely can't say that straight sex is any less disgusting than gay sex would be.

I mean, I understand what you are saying.

I have no interest in holding and kissing some NFL linebacker. It is the opposite of what interests me.

So, it's an attraction thing, not a gay thing.

I am also not attracted to gals who are overly aggressive or whatever. One of my gal friends in high school was the head cheerleader. We were pals. But I was not attracted to her. Just too tough for me. I had another gal friend who was a model. She was bi. Far too masculine for me.

My buddies used to tease me why I didn't sleep with her. Uh, well, sure she has a great body, but I was not attracted to the demeanor behind it.
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I wasn't going to reply to your post, but you seem to "think" you know a lot about me. You make assumptions based on what again? I have read many of your posts and I have also wondered if you are a real person or just another bot taking up the time of the good people here, maybe even some believing your fantasy stories.
I spent several years in the Marines after graduating from the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis and after discharge I was offered a job at the Pentagon in the Office of the Secretary of Defense with the Joint Chiefs of Staff and hold a Class 2 clearance. Had no father or mother since the age of 9, but thanks to my wonderful paternal grandparents I did well in life.
The OP asked for honest opinions and I was being as honest as I could be. Like the old saying goes, "If you don't want to know, don't ask." I am no phony and I don't pretend to be someone I am not WYSIWYG.
If you don't like my posts, I believe you have the choice of ignoring me, so please take advantage of that opportunity to do so and then you won't be offended by anymore of my posts.
This is all that I have to say on the matter.
 
dseag2 said:
Sorry @Trish, I guess I should have worded the title differently. I was simply asking how members felt about gay people in general. There was no "promiscuity" implied because that is not my thing.

I mentioned in another thread that I actually think it is sad that the most outrageous gay people are the ones who sometimes make the media. We have at least 5 gay couples in our mostly straight neighborhood and we and our straight friends all socialize and take care of each other.
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No worries @dseag2 Actually, I shouldn't have jumped to the conclusion that that is what you meant.

I think it is always the way though, those who shout loudest get the most attention but, in real life, I have found that most people are just looking for what you and your partner have; love and happiness :)
 
Been There said:
I never understood why men wanted to have sex with other men. I know some men will get excited watching two women having sex, but even the idea of two men having sex repulses me. As for the person themselves, I am OK with being around them, so long as they don't come onto me or even make comments that may reflect wanting to have more than just a friendly relationship. And please, don't tell me about how much you and John love each other. Keep your private life just that, private.
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Thank you for your response. I seriously doubt that any gay man would want to come onto you, so don't flatter yourself. :ROFLMAO:

Welcome to the forum! I have a feeling we are going to have a fun time together. ;)
 
Been There said:
I wasn't going to reply to your post, but you seem to "think" you know a lot about me. You make assumptions based on what again? I have read many of your posts and I have also wondered if you are a real person or just another bot taking up the time of the good people here, maybe even some believing your fantasy stories.
I spent several years in the Marines after graduating from the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis and after discharge I was offered a job at the Pentagon in the Office of the Secretary of Defense with the Joint Chiefs of Staff and hold a Class 2 clearance. Had no father or mother since the age of 9, but thanks to my wonderful paternal grandparents I did well in life.
The OP asked for honest opinions and I was being as honest as I could be. Like the old saying goes, "If you don't want to know, don't ask." I am no phony and I don't pretend to be someone I am not WYSIWYG.
If you don't like my posts, I believe you have the choice of ignoring me, so please take advantage of that opportunity to do so and then you won't be offended by anymore of my posts.
This is all that I have to say on the matter.
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I have a friend who's sister is in the Pentagon. You are not the only person to be connected to realms of power. Another person I know, her son is a Colonel in the Pentagon.

I don't know you?

Well, you don't know me.

In two separate incidents, I protected Vets going into a PTSD episode, at significant risk to my own safety. Have you gone into life-threatening situations, without a weapon and risked your life to help and protect others? I have. And many of us in the non-profit world have done that. Worked in war zones, just trying to bring food and medicine to people. Those liberals that you guys hate, with as much courage as any soldier who ever took up arms. You think it is easy to defy some African warlord, to bring some medicine into a village??? You think that is not a life-threatening risk???

I consulted on a concert for Vets, put on by one of Mariah Carey's back-up singers, who lived in town.

I donated goods to a Veteran's Hospital.

We have a friend, a combat Vet from Vietnam, a Marine. He goes suicidal from time to time. I was one of the people orchestrating a watch for him to keep him safe.

So, don't presume you know me, or my dedication to the truth and to God. And...to Vets. My Dad and step-father both served in WWII. They always told me to honor the vet. And I have tried hard to do just that.


I can't imagine that the current Secretary of Defense would enjoy your posts.

Surrendering to anger and hatred and prejudice and bigotry....that is weakness. That is you surrendering to the Devil.

And don't presume that God doesn't let us know who is doing what to whom. We know. We honor compassion, not vindictive revenge. We don't sneak around, stalking people and trying to press our influence on society. I have run into endless military people, going online doing all sorts of acts of illegal harassment and abuse. And how many of those guys absorb demented beliefs and join into white supremacist groups, militia groups?

If you guys want to police society...start with your own house. Help root out white supremacy in the military.

Or, the 100,000 vets coming back from the Mid-East with PTSD. And almost all of them getting maybe 5% of the care they need. Go fight that battle to get them real help.

Who told you that the bad guys are the people working on those kinds of issues? Why would you ever listen to that used car salesman?


Don't throw away your eternal soul for a small temporary gain in the material world. Status and position and whatever. You are valuing pennies. God is the gold. Value that and walk away from the anger and hatred.
 
All of that just breaks my heart, our veterans do not need to go at each other. Anyone who is an American who is brave, strong, dedicated, caring for their fellow Americans that put their selfs in harms way are to be respected, honored, admire by all fellow Americans.

You both have gone way off topic here. Step back and realize we love our military past and current.
 
Been There said:
I never understood why men wanted to have sex with other men.
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Neither do I, but if they do I don't see that it is my place to object.
dseag2 said:
I seriously doubt that any gay man would want to come onto you
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Never happened to me, not that I would want it. If one ever did I might find it an odd experience, but not really a big deal, not so long as he took no for an answer.
 
Please clear something up for me. Are homosexual male/female born attracted to the same sex? My daughter has never done well in a heterosexual relationship but seems to thrive in same-sex relationships.
 
My opinion on the gay lifestyle is the same as on any other lifestyle. I have had many gay friends and spent a lot of years going to the beach at Fire Island (the community I went to was almost all gay) in the 70's and 80's. I have worked with gay people of both sexes and considered them good friends. My cousin is gay and married his spouse as soon as they could legally do so. They have been together since they were in high school. They have a beautiful home and adopted three children and now are grandparents.

I treat people based on their personality and on the way they treat others (including animals). People with integrity no matter what their sexual preference is.
 
Yes, if someone is born that way, they are who they are, it is not a choice. Think of it as you. You were born who you are, you can't change that. You have identified who you are, you are accepting who and why you are. You are working on your mental health. In your daughters case, she is doing the same thing, leave it be, let her work through who she is and she will be fine. It is a different thing. She is not having a problem with mental health, she is trying to figure out who she is.
 
ElCastor said:
Quite true, but by the same token I doubt you have heard about Gay women plaguing the Girl Scouts or acting as carriers of HIV, Syphilis, and now Monkeypox. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against gay men as people. I could care less who they sleep with - none of my business. In fact, the best man I ever worked for was gay. Unfortunately he lived with one of his direct reports, a gay man, until the auditors found out, and no, I didn't turn him in. A long standing friend and co-worker was Gay. He died of Hepatitis, a common Gay disease. Another manager (who I didn't care for) spent every lunch hour in a gay bar. He was married with two children (boys). He left his family and moved in with a gay man. His boys were reportedly beyond upset. He eventually died of Aids.

Here's an interesting Wiki site for you to check out...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association
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And why would you "doubt I have heard"? Isn't that awfully condescending of you, just because I didn't take the time to list EVERYTHING?
 
I have no problem with a Gay person. What I dislike is having the 'gay lifestyle' pushed at me and my family. I promise not to show my sexual preferences in public, I expect others to do the same. My 3-year-old Granddaughter does not need to see two gay folks 'French kissing' in a restaurant. This type of sexual displays by gays or non-gays to me is not acceptable. Hugging, holding hands, is ok, but keep it limited...most folks understand the normal limits of public sexual displays...

Additionally, the media, including advertisers should not demonstrate the gay lifestyle without appropriate warnings so parents of very young kids are exposed to things they are not yet mature enough to understand.

Basically, don't do things to push your sexual preferences in my FACE! Not Cool!
 
My oldest daughter and her partner, now wife, have been together for 20 years. My daughter gave birth to both of my two oldest granddaughters (using the same sperm donor for both). They have a happy normal life in suburbia, just like my other three daughters who have husbands. So their "gay lifestyle" is the same as any "non-gay lifestyle." Honestly, I'm surprised that anyone would consider this a topic of conversation in 2022.
 
Conceptually, I do not disagree with what you say, but a three-year-old cannot process this information. It is all about protecting our young kids from all types of sexual activities, other than holding hands, kissing (Not French) etc. ... Once a child gets into noticing boys and girls, it is something they will have to learn about. Most all adults feel uncomfortable doing any heavy sexual acts in public...gay or not gay! Common sense applies here...
 
oldaunt said:
There is much medical research that says yes, they are born that way.
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Maybe @dseag2 can input on that.. but it's what I've always believed, too.

But I rarely put much stock in what so-called experts say on anything, because it's just a matter of one theory after another.
On this topic specifically, I recall decades ago when the widespread theory was boys raised by single mothers, or with 'domineering' mothers and 'weak' fathers were almost certain to 'become gay' (I guess they didn't think lesbians existed?). And the 'choice' theory is still widespread, too- even read it on another forum a few months ago.

Of all the gay males I've ever known, there were only 2 I intensely disliked- but it had nothing to do with their 'preferences,' they were just jerks. I've only known 3 lesbians- all super people, too.
 
dseag2 said:
I have a thick skin, so feel free to share your views.
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@dseag2

Yer a nice guy

Jesus asks only two things of us in His commandments;

Be nice to God
Be nice to your neighbor

That's all
That's it

Doesn't talk about who or what we are

Not much to ask....seems

Hope to see you in the new earth

Where
'He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.'


Lots to talk about
 
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JaniceM said:
Maybe @dseag2 can input on that.. but it's what I've always believed, too.

But I rarely put much stock in what so-called experts say on anything, because it's just a matter of one theory after another.
On this topic specifically, I recall decades ago when the widespread theory was boys raised by single mothers, or with 'domineering' mothers and 'weak' fathers were almost certain to 'become gay' (I guess they didn't think lesbians existed?). And the 'choice' theory is still widespread, too- even read it on another forum a few months ago.

Of all the gay males I've ever known, there were only 2 I intensely disliked- but it had nothing to do with their 'preferences,' they were just jerks. I've only known 3 lesbians- all super people, too.
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They have found there are actual differences in the way the brain is 'wired', for lack of a better word.
 
Timewise 60+ said:
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Basically, don't do things to push your sexual preferences in my FACE! Not Cool!
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Yet a good many cisgendered men (not all but in my youthful experience--many)find it perfectly acceptable to voice their preferences to others especially women. Including critiqueing the clothing styles, body shape and facial expressions of women who are complete strangers to them.

And don't get me started on the InCels.
 
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