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I've seen two sides of the gay lifestyle. One I'm fine with, the other not so much. Let's start with the "not so much". As a former public health worker, my constituents and I saw (and were told about) the seedy side of gay life back in the day. Back then, the gay men were going to the clubs and baths in NYC and having indiscriminate sex, even using the Bloomingdale bag trick in public rest rooms. One of the gay men who came to clinic did a very responsible, admirable thing. He asked if there was any way we could conduct mass testing (for syphilis...HIV wasn't around yet) on he and his circle of friends. He found a non denominational church and we set it up for one evening. Several gay men and women came in to be tested. One of our workers was stunned (he literally came back walking like a zombie) when he walked in on two men having oral sex in the bathroom. We were in a church for goodness sake!

As you know, HIV hit the gay community at first. It probably spread to straight people due to many who were "on the down low" and brought it home to their wives or GFs. In the long run, because of their free lifestyle, we lost most of our gay patients to HIV/AIDS when that came along and most were so young. One of them was Michael. Our staff supported him when he entered the gay ball. We went, set at a table with our food and watched with fascination as the contestants paraded in their costumes. Michael stepped on stage and his gown lit up like a Christmas tree! The crowd went crazy and Michael won. Another one was Larry. He was planning to sue his doctor because he said the doctor told him he had HIV but claimed his test was false positive. But Larry did in fact develop AIDS and died. One of our clinic doctors was a proctologist...cool guy. He pointed out that unprotected anal sex is unhealthy for either sex. And for women..especially if her partner goes from that area to the other without washing or putting on clean protection.

On the other side of the coin, there are gay people, as you know Dseag2, who are totally committed to one partner. Just as there are many straight people who are not loyal to their partners, something we also found out on a daily basis due to the kind of work we did. So no stereotyping is meant by this reply. In fact, it seems to me that gay couples who are committed stay together longer than many straight couples. I do have a problem with gay men who "overdo it" by trying to act and sound like women. It comes across as phony to me. Even my gay friends have problems with that. I also have a problem with anyone who is phony whether they are pretending to be your friend or that they have more education or money than they really do. I have a couple of good friends who are gay. A couple who are "Bi" and I have a friend who is trans (male to female). I love and highly respect them because they keep it real and are not phonies. They also don't try to push their lifestyles on anyone. (Eg...no approaching obviously straight people with propositions).
 
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What exactly do you mean by 'The Gay Lifestyle'? As One Eyed Diva said, gay people vary just as much as straight people do. I am friendly with a gay couple who behave as any other couple...they are faithful to each other, have friends round for dinner parties, etc. Then there are those who think that being 'gay' is all about having sex with other men. There are areas of the town which are out of bounds to most people because gay men gather there in the evenings, purely to meet up for sex.
I'm sure there are many decent homosexuals who are horrified at the image that gay men have, because of the behaviour of some of their contemporaries. I've known many gay people and, most are accepted in their communities. The problem arises when they make a big issue about it as though it is the only thing about them that matters.
 
I don't see it as a lifestyle. I don't see it as a choice. I see it as being the person you are. Now, you can judge my lifestyle. I am not rich, grew up lower middle class, worked hard and built my life. I don't think anyone should be subject to inappropriate slurs of any kind of a internet forum.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
I've seen two sides of the gay lifestyle. One I'm fine with, the other not so much. Let's start with the "not so much". As a former public health worker, my constituents and I saw (and were told about) the seedy side of gay life back in the day. Back then, the gay men were going to the clubs and baths in NYC and having indiscriminate sex, even using the Bloomingdale bag trick in public rest rooms. One of the gay men who came to clinic did a very responsible, admirable thing. He asked if there was any way we could conduct mass testing (for syphilis...HIV wasn't around yet) on he and his circle of friends. He found a non denominational church and we set it up for one evening. Several gay men and women came in to be tested. One of our workers was stunned (he literally came back walking like a zombie) when he walked in on two men having oral sex in the bathroom. We were in a church for goodness sake!

As you know, HIV hit the gay community at first. It probably spread to straight people due to many who were on the "down low". In the long run, because of their free lifestyle, we lost most of our gay patients to HIV/AIDS when that came along and most were so young. One of them was Michael. Our staff supported him when he entered the gay ball. We went, set at a table with our food and watched with fascination as the contestants paraded in their costumes. Michael stepped on stage and his gown lit up like a Christmas tree! The crowd went crazy and Michael won. Another one was Larry. He was planning to sue his doctor because he said the doctor told him he had HIV but claimed his test was false positive. But Larry did in fact develop AIDS and died. One of our clinic doctors was a proctologist...cool guy. He pointed out that unprotected anal sex is unhealthy for either sex. And for women..especially if her partner goes from that area to the other without washing or putting on clean protection.

On the other side of the coin, there are gay people, as you know Dseag2, who are totally committed to one partner. Just as there are many straight people who are not loyal to their partners, something we also found out on a daily basis due to the kind of work we did. So no stereotyping is meant by this reply. In fact, it seems to me that gay couples who are committed stay together longer than many straight couples. I do have a problem with gay men who "overdo it" by trying to act and sound like women. It comes across as phony to me. Even my gay friends have problems with that. I also have a problem with anyone who is phony whether they are pretending to be your friend or that they have more education or money than they really do. I have a couple of good friends who are gay. A couple who are "Bi" and I have a friend who is trans (male to female). I love and highly respect them because they keep it real and are not phonies. They also don't try to push their lifestyles on anyone. (Eg...no approaching obviously straight people with propositions).
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I couldn't agree more with your postl

When I was coming out as gay, my first priority was to find a soul mate. I kissed a lot of "frogs" along the way until I found my life partner of 30 yearsl Thank your for responding, and I completely agree with you re: gay men who overdo it. I had friends back in the 80s who referred to everyone as "girl" and embarrassed me when I was just trying to fit in.
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What exactly do you mean by 'The Gay Lifestyle'? As One Eyed Diva said, gay people vary just as much as straight people do. I am friendly with a gay couple who behave as any other couple...they are faithful to each other, have friends round for dinner parties, etc. Then there are those who think that being 'gay' is all about having sex with other men. There are areas of the town which are out of bounds to most people because gay men gather there in the evenings, purely to meet up for sex.
I'm sure there are many decent homosexuals who are horrified at the image that gay men have, because of the behaviour of some of their contemporaries. I've known many gay people and, most are accepted in their communities. The problem arises when they make a big issue about it as though it is the only thing about them that matters.Maybe we can finally agree on something
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@Lavinia I am always willing to consider both sides.. Like your friends, my partner and I have been faithful to one another for over 30 years. Please set us aside from those who are out every night looking for sex. We were never like that even when we were younger, so we can't all be painted with the same brush any more than straight people can.

Regardless of what i may seem, I am not a person who wishes to impose his values one everyone else. I simply seek respect. I'm sure we can find common ground. I know you are a very intelligent person, so although we have had our challenges, please consider this my "olive branch" to you so we can start from Square One.
 
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I have no problem with Gay people, it is their choice, or maybe not,
to be the way they are, as long as they don't try anything with those
are not Gay.

The strange thing that I have noticed here at least, among British Gays,
they all, mainly, want to blend in and be accepted as part of the non-gay
community, I can understand that they want to be one big happy family
together.

Then, they want a Parade, a Gala day, or some big function for whatever
reason and suddenly they are L.G.B.T. or rainbow, or any other name that
I don't remember and if a non-gay wants to join in, then they are required
to dress as gay people, to blend in, so in this example, the Gay people here
want the others to blend in to their idea of lifestyle.

Strange, I think, to advocate one thing, but then force the opposite at times.

Mike.
 
By gay lifestyle, do you mean being attracted to people of the same sex? If so, I hope they find happiness like everyone else and that life is no longer as difficult for them as it was for my school friend (Denis) back in the early 1970's, when he left because he felt he would never belong in this world.

I guess by "lifestyle" you might mean promiscuity? If so, I have always thought that was a bit of a myth as my gay friends seemed no different to my straight friends in that some were promiscuous and some were not.

@dseag2 I hope you and your partner have many more years to love and enjoy together x
 
Mike said:
I have no problem with Gay people, it is their choice, or maybe not,
to be the way they are, as long as they don't try anything with those
are not Gay.

The strange thing that I have noticed here at least, among British Gays,
they all, mainly, want to blend in and be accepted as part of the non-gay
community, I can understand that they want to be one big happy family
together.

Then, they want a Parade, a Gala day, or some big function for whatever
reason and suddenly they are L.G.B.T. or rainbow, or any other name that
I don't remember and if a non-gay wants to join in, then they are required
to dress as gay people, to blend in, so in this example, the Gay people here
want the others to blend in to their idea of lifestyle.

Strange, I think, to advocate one thing, but then force the opposite at times.

Mike.
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I am sorry to hear that Mike, it's sad if people are made to feel excluded.
 
I never understood why men wanted to have sex with other men. I know some men will get excited watching two women having sex, but even the idea of two men having sex repulses me. As for the person themselves, I am OK with being around them, so long as they don't come onto me or even make comments that may reflect wanting to have more than just a friendly relationship. And please, don't tell me about how much you and John love each other. Keep your private life just that, private.
 
Well, you said be honest, you have thick skin, etc. So....One gripe with them is the name itself. [Gay] meaning queer. I mean if they are so proud .... thats great, be proud of what you are .... queer .... quit hiding behind a word that used to mean 'happy'

And why do they need all this special attention ? Pride month, parades , their own flag etc. Just be who you are, love who you choose , screw who you choose. Quit making such a spectical of yourselves.

I used to work with a guy that was queer [Gary] He was a great guy, and a damn good employee. He worked in dispatch, and was a record keeping fanatic <grin> made our jobs, mechanics/crew chiefs/ machinist / fabricators etc. allot easier when we needed something.

Another queer guy was hired up in the office. He was such a 'flamer' ..... he even pissed Gary off. Gary told him that he was making his [Gary's] life at work much harder The boss decided to transfer the other guy out, Gary supported the boss.

No I do not agree with your lifestyle, but you are of course entitled to it. As such I wish you well each and every day.
 
I was in Zurich and heard about Stonewall on BBC radio and I was so proud of the gay guys standing up and fighting back. Since it occurred around the time of my birthday I felt it was a gift. I was wishing I were home to join in the celebrations that followed. I understand men loving men as I loved men too! Crazy, I know.
 
The Nazi regime carried out a campaign against male homosexuality between 1933 and 1945. This campaign persecuted men who had sexual relations with other men. It is unclear how many of these men publicly or privately identified as gay or were part of gay communities and networks that had been established in Germany before the Nazi rise to power.

Beginning in 1933, the Nazi regime harassed and dismantled these communities. They also arrested large numbers of gay men under Paragraph 175. Paragraph 175 was the statute of the German criminal code that banned sexual relations between men. During the Nazi period, the police arrested about 100,000 men for allegedly violating this statute. Approximately fifty percent of these men were convicted. In some cases, this led to their imprisonment in concentration camps.

It is important to note that not all of the men arrested and convicted under Paragraph 175 identified as gay. However, any man who had sexual relations with another man faced potential arrest in Nazi Germany, regardless of how he understood his own sexuality. Identifying as a gay man was never explicitly criminalized in Germany. However, the Nazi campaign against homosexuality and the regime’s zealous enforcement of Paragraph 175 made life in Nazi Germany dangerous for gay men.

Among the groups the Nazi regime and its Axis partners singled out for persecution on so-called racial grounds were the Roma (Gypsies). Drawing support from many non-Nazi Germans who harboured social prejudice towards Roma, the Nazis judged Roma to be "racially inferior." The fate of Roma in some ways paralleled that of the Jews. Under the Nazi regime, German authorities subjected Roma to arbitrary internment, forced labor, and mass murder. German authorities murdered tens of thousands of Roma in the German-occupied territories of the Soviet Union and Serbia and thousands more in their killing centres.

On July 14, 1933, the Nazi government instituted the “Law for the Prevention of Progeny with Hereditary Diseases.” This law, one of the first steps taken by the Nazis toward their goal of creating an Aryan “master race,” called for the sterilization of all persons who suffered from diseases considered hereditary, such as mental illness, learning disabilities, physical deformity, epilepsy, blindness, deafness, and severe alcoholism. With the law’s passage the Third Reich also stepped up its propaganda against people with disabilities, regularly labeling them “life unworthy of life” or “useless eaters” and highlighting their burden upon society. Just a few years later, the persecution of people with disabilities escalated even further. In the autumn of 1939, Adolf Hitler secretly authorized a medically administered program of “mercy death” code-named “Operation T4,” in reference to the address of the program’s Berlin headquarters at Tiergartenstrasse 4. Between 1940 and 1941 approximately 70,000 Austrian and German disabled people were killed under the T4 program, most via large-scale killing operations using poison gas. (This methodology served as the precursor to the streamlined extermination methods of the “Final Solution.”) Although Hitler formally ordered a halt to the program in late August 1941, the killings secretly continued until the war’s end, resulting in the murder of an estimated 275,000 people with disabilities.

The Holocaust, the murder of some six million Jews is well known, but the Nazis also murdered three and a half million Russian POW's, they committed the Genocide of Poland and murdered just about anyone they didn't like the look of. You see what happens when prejudice is allowed to flourish. As for the thread title, why should I have an opinion? I'm much too busy earning a crust, living my life and keeping a roof over my head to have an opinion about how others live their lives.
 
I have not one problem with people being gay but I am REALLY tired of having it shoved in my face by media and such. By the same token, I do not want to know about straight people and their sex life either. Can't watch a movie or read a book any more without some kind of sex in your face. No, i don't have a problem ith MINE, I just don't want to be a part of YOURS.
 
dseag2 said:
I keep seeing these posts pop up against the gay lifestyle. I would like to see some of you who are truly against it step up and say so and why. I have a thick skin, so feel free to share your views. Nothing hurts me these days. I am very happy with who I am.
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Everyone should be free to love whoever they want. Period.

Went to the eye doctor Monday. In the hallway of the building, I passed by a nice man. I guess he was gay. I am straight and my radar isn't always good. But anyway, when people pass me by, I tend to say hello. There are reasons for that, beyond courtesy and friendship.

I am big guy, 6' 200 lbs. I am a hippie, but I look like a biker. So, I will say hello to older folks and such, so that they are more comfortable around me and not scared.

And this man passing by me was kind of small...so, you know, I said hello to ease tensions.

And he said hello back and I guess he sounded like he might be gay.

Anyway, all a very long way of saying that, in my experience, gay men are about, oh maybe 10 times nicer than straight men. I also seem to get along very well with gay women.

Bottom line for me, is that the gay community has just been far, far nicer people to interact with.

As far as I am concerned...more power to them. For me, talking with gay folks is a break from interacting with harsh and annoying people.

I used to sell sporting goods at Sears...yet another of my endless jobs. When I would get a customer from the military, I would have a sigh of relief. Because I knew I would be interacting with someone with respect and courtesy. For me, it is like that with gay people. I have a sigh of relief, because I know I am going to be interacting with someone who is nicer.

picture of me (with goofy face) and my wife Laurie:

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I posted this in the history thread, but thought I might share this here, as a reminder...

Gay Military Heroes. And that is just one example of the extraordinary contributions of the gay community to society.

You can go through all the professions and all the endeavors and really start to realize the amazing contribution of the gay community to society.

And that is in every sphere - inventors, scientists, musicians, actors, teachers, writers, and right down the line. Gay folks are just folks, like the rest of us.


Gay Military Heroes...


Old ideas about gay folks are just old ideas. They have no validity at all. Just like any racial prejudice is absurd. We are all people, period.

No, I'm not gay. I'm straight.
Very nice gay man on these boards. Showed a lot of kindness to this NJ loser.
This post is to honor him and all gay folks. We're all just people out here....
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Perhaps the greatest warrior in world history....Alexander the Great. He was gay.

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One of the greatest warriors of the 20th Century.... T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) - he was gay.

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Sacred Band of Thebes...some of the greatest warriors of the ancient world. They were gay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes

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The four people who are probably most responsible for winning WWII --- Churchill, Roosevelt, Eisenhower and math genius Alan Turing, who broke the Nazi engima code. Turing was gay.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18419691

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Twelve LGBTQ War Heroes and their stories

https://www.museumfacts.co.uk/12-lgbtq-war-heroes-and-their-stories/

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I am 61, missed Vietnam by about 5 years. No military service.
----But, I did consult to help put on a concert for Vets. That was a project of one of Mariah Carey's back-up singers. He was gay.
I have PTSD. Not military related.
----Protected two different vets in the throes of PTSD episodes..kept them safe and out of jail, risked my safety to do it.
----Made donations to veterans hospital.

Other things for vets also...
 
OneEyedDiva said:
I've seen two sides of the gay lifestyle. One I'm fine with, the other not so much. Let's start with the "not so much". As a former public health worker, my constituents and I saw (and were told about) the seedy side of gay life back in the day. Back then, the gay men were going to the clubs and baths in NYC and having indiscriminate sex, even using the Bloomingdale bag trick in public rest rooms. One of the gay men who came to clinic did a very responsible, admirable thing. He asked if there was any way we could conduct mass testing (for syphilis...HIV wasn't around yet) on he and his circle of friends. He found a non denominational church and we set it up for one evening. Several gay men and women came in to be tested. One of our workers was stunned (he literally came back walking like a zombie) when he walked in on two men having oral sex in the bathroom. We were in a church for goodness sake!

As you know, HIV hit the gay community at first. It probably spread to straight people due to many who were "on the down low" and brought it home to their wives or GFs. In the long run, because of their free lifestyle, we lost most of our gay patients to HIV/AIDS when that came along and most were so young. One of them was Michael. Our staff supported him when he entered the gay ball. We went, set at a table with our food and watched with fascination as the contestants paraded in their costumes. Michael stepped on stage and his gown lit up like a Christmas tree! The crowd went crazy and Michael won. Another one was Larry. He was planning to sue his doctor because he said the doctor told him he had HIV but claimed his test was false positive. But Larry did in fact develop AIDS and died. One of our clinic doctors was a proctologist...cool guy. He pointed out that unprotected anal sex is unhealthy for either sex. And for women..especially if her partner goes from that area to the other without washing or putting on clean protection.

On the other side of the coin, there are gay people, as you know Dseag2, who are totally committed to one partner. Just as there are many straight people who are not loyal to their partners, something we also found out on a daily basis due to the kind of work we did. So no stereotyping is meant by this reply. In fact, it seems to me that gay couples who are committed stay together longer than many straight couples. I do have a problem with gay men who "overdo it" by trying to act and sound like women. It comes across as phony to me. Even my gay friends have problems with that. I also have a problem with anyone who is phony whether they are pretending to be your friend or that they have more education or money than they really do. I have a couple of good friends who are gay. A couple who are "Bi" and I have a friend who is trans (male to female). I love and highly respect them because they keep it real and are not phonies. They also don't try to push their lifestyles on anyone. (Eg...no approaching obviously straight people with propositions).
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I am not a fan of a wild hedonistic lifestyle, whether that is gay or straight. People having endless sex with strangers, taking drugs and all that. You know, I think it is a festival of superficial behavior that leads to endless problems. Instead of people forming loving relationships, they engage in this wild and superficial life...instead of doing the harder work of finding truly loving partners and a deeper emotional life.

I have lost 5 people to ODs from heroin. And they were all straight. So, my problem is not with gay folks, it is with the dangers of wild life and drug use. But for the gay folks who were engaged in that kind of behavior, at least back in the 70s, before AIDS...no, I was not a fan of that, for the reasons above.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
I've seen two sides of the gay lifestyle. One I'm fine with, the other not so much. Let's start with the "not so much". As a former public health worker, my constituents and I saw (and were told about) the seedy side of gay life back in the day. Back then, the gay men were going to the clubs and baths in NYC and having indiscriminate sex, even using the Bloomingdale bag trick in public rest rooms. One of the gay men who came to clinic did a very responsible, admirable thing. He asked if there was any way we could conduct mass testing (for syphilis...HIV wasn't around yet) on he and his circle of friends. He found a non denominational church and we set it up for one evening. Several gay men and women came in to be tested. One of our workers was stunned (he literally came back walking like a zombie) when he walked in on two men having oral sex in the bathroom. We were in a church for goodness sake!

As you know, HIV hit the gay community at first. It probably spread to straight people due to many who were "on the down low" and brought it home to their wives or GFs. In the long run, because of their free lifestyle, we lost most of our gay patients to HIV/AIDS when that came along and most were so young. One of them was Michael. Our staff supported him when he entered the gay ball. We went, set at a table with our food and watched with fascination as the contestants paraded in their costumes. Michael stepped on stage and his gown lit up like a Christmas tree! The crowd went crazy and Michael won. Another one was Larry. He was planning to sue his doctor because he said the doctor told him he had HIV but claimed his test was false positive. But Larry did in fact develop AIDS and died. One of our clinic doctors was a proctologist...cool guy. He pointed out that unprotected anal sex is unhealthy for either sex. And for women..especially if her partner goes from that area to the other without washing or putting on clean protection.

On the other side of the coin, there are gay people, as you know Dseag2, who are totally committed to one partner. Just as there are many straight people who are not loyal to their partners, something we also found out on a daily basis due to the kind of work we did. So no stereotyping is meant by this reply. In fact, it seems to me that gay couples who are committed stay together longer than many straight couples. I do have a problem with gay men who "overdo it" by trying to act and sound like women. It comes across as phony to me. Even my gay friends have problems with that. I also have a problem with anyone who is phony whether they are pretending to be your friend or that they have more education or money than they really do. I have a couple of good friends who are gay. A couple who are "Bi" and I have a friend who is trans (male to female). I love and highly respect them because they keep it real and are not phonies. They also don't try to push their lifestyles on anyone. (Eg...no approaching obviously straight people with propositions).
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I do think that you really might be repeating some myths about gay folks...that really are not who they are.

You wrote:

"I do have a problem with gay men who "overdo it" by trying to act and sound like women. It comes across as phony to me."

I am not sure that is a "thing." Or at least, any more than the wide range of affectations that straight people put on, when they are trying to "look cool" or "sound attractive."

You wrote:

"They also don't try to push their lifestyles on anyone. (Eg...no approaching obviously straight people with propositions)."


I also don't think that is a "thing." That sounds more like some negative spin that politicians created to demonize the gay community.

In the 70s, I used to go to Greenwich Village a lot, because I was a jazz fan. As a young guy, in my late teens, I was, in fact a pretty decent looking guy. And that is not, you know, just bragging. My aunt had been a model. A bunch of women in my family were involved in beauty pageants. Anyway, I absolutely did get a lot of looks from gay men, as I walked to the jazz clubs.

Not once did anyone approach me. Not once. No one was rude or inappropriate with me, ever.
 
dseag2 said:
I keep seeing these posts pop up against the gay lifestyle. I would like to see some of you who are truly against it step up and say so and why. I have a thick skin, so feel free to share your views. Nothing hurts me these days. I am very happy with who I am.
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The word "lifestyle" threw me, as it did others. I'm assuming that you simply meant homosexuality, but correct me if I'm wrong.

I have always been a loner, so I haven't known many people at all.

I'm familiar with a female ex-in-law and her female partner. I was the only one not "shocked and appalled" in the family when this relationship became apparent.

I've only been in brief contact with one other homosexual couple - two divorced ladies, each with their own children. The combined family seemed just like any other.

I am more familiar with one young person who transitioned and that person seemed to be much happier in their "new skin."

To my knowledge, I've only known one homosexual man. He was my photography instructor and I really, really wanted him to ask me out. I guess my flirting finally got to him and he told me that I just wasn't his type!

So, I'm grateful to Deseag2 for expanding my knowledge base.

As to my opinions:

I frown at sexual promiscuity because it causes so much pain, both physical and emotional.

I'm not fond of overly flamboyant behavior in anyone - people who constantly behave as if they are on stage, begging the world to "Look at me!"

I have never concerned myself with who someone loves, nor who someone is intimate with, as long as that relationship was healthy and happy.

I try to be my honest self and hope all others do the same.
 
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I never understood why men wanted to have sex with other men. I know some men will get excited watching two women having sex, but even the idea of two men having sex repulses me. As for the person themselves, I am OK with being around them, so long as they don't come onto me or even make comments that may reflect wanting to have more than just a friendly relationship. And please, don't tell me about how much you and John love each other. Keep your private life just that, private.
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Keep your private life just that, private.


Well, you know, that is kind of nasty and aggressively so. Would you say the same thing if some gal on here talked about a romantic date with her husband??? So, don't single out people.

Also, you might want to take a deeper dive into why other people's lives make you that angry. Because you are not angry at them, you are angry at something else. Maybe some kind of abuse you suffered as a kid. That is really what is making you angry...and your brain is just processing it in a way you turn it into anger at people you don't even know.

I would lay strong odds that you were the victim of some kind of abuse as a kid, or the victim of some kind of trauma. And that abuse or trauma might have absolutely nothing to do with gay people, sexuality, anything. You probably just have some kind of psychological sore spot inside you. And if you address that in counseling, you are likely to be happier in your life.

I know this because in 1982, I was kidnapped and held for a week, by some lunatics. I know that trauma can express itself in all kinds of ways. Sometimes, after getting triggered, I will just be angry at everyone and everything. But it doesn't mean it is them, it is crossed wires in the brain.

I am straight. I had gay woman friend, who was a model and drop dead gorgeous. We went to a movie and secretly I was hoping that, well, she might not be as gay as she thought she was.

This gorgeous blond came on the screen and at the exact same time, we both muttered "D*mn..."

You just can't make that up.

Gay folks are just romantically and physically attracted to the same sex.

You say it is repulsive?

Hey, c'mon. I am a guy. I know what guys think about women. I know all the sick, disgusting thoughts about women that are constantly going through our heads.

You definitely can't say that straight sex is any less disgusting than gay sex would be.

I mean, I understand what you are saying.

I have no interest in holding and kissing some NFL linebacker. It is the opposite of what interests me.

So, it's an attraction thing, not a gay thing.

I am also not attracted to gals who are overly aggressive or whatever. One of my gal friends in high school was the head cheerleader. We were pals. But I was not attracted to her. Just too tough for me. I had another gal friend who was a model. She was bi. Far too masculine for me.

My buddies used to tease me why I didn't sleep with her. Uh, well, sure she has a great body, but I was not attracted to the demeanor behind it.
 
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So far, I've never had a gay person try to push their "lifestyle" on me. I wish I could say the same about some members of religious organizations or political parties, most or all of whom I assume are "straight".

I have gay friends, I have gay relatives. Love 'em all.

I don't care if you find love with the opposite sex, the same sex, a tree or your '66 Corvette......just be kind and faithful to your chosen partner.
 
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