YUP,America is going to hell.

Thanks QS. I was just about to post that this story by the Young Conservatives is crying out for a fact check.
 

Besides that... women wearing the full covering are few and far between.. Most just wear a head scarf. So much hysteria for a very small issue.

Then to title the thread "America is going to hell" !! I'm sort of proud to live in a religious tolerant state.
 
Why is this considered a "bad time"?
Listening to the conservative pundits, the minions eat up their sermonizing about how bad it is in America. We are so blessed to be here!! We have so many freedoms and liberties other societies and cultures would enjoy... but don't/can't. Our children and grandchildren have more opportunity that we ever thought of having. What we enjoy as Americans is protected by the very best military in the World. Few countries have the opportunity to elect their representatives and leaders. Few countries would see the likes of Faux Noise telling us 24/7 how bad the "gubmint" is... without suffering severe consequences. Yet, they continue to bestow nothing but negativity on a government and Constitution that allows them to do so.
This is NOT a "bad time". Would one rather be living through the Civil War in the 1860's? Or, maybe you'd rather have lived through the Great Depression. As we were growing up, folks were building fallout shelters because they feared the Russians would be attacking at any time. The "Red, White, and Blue" has come though many hard times and continue to fly proudly over our Country. Thanks to the sacrifice of many, I enjoyed rounds of golf the past two days... am free to worship where and how I please... owe not one dime to anyone as our home, cars, etc. are all paid for... have children and grandchildren who are doing well in their family units. We live in a "good time" as far as I'm concerned!!!!!
 
Listening to the conservative pundits, the minions eat up their sermonizing about how bad it is in America. We are so blessed to be here!! We have so many freedoms and liberties other societies and cultures would enjoy... but don't/can't. Our children and grandchildren have more opportunity that we ever thought of having. What we enjoy as Americans is protected by the very best military in the World. Few countries have the opportunity to elect their representatives and leaders. Few countries would see the likes of Faux Noise telling us 24/7 how bad the "gubmint" is... without suffering severe consequences. Yet, they continue to bestow nothing but negativity on a government and Constitution that allows them to do so.
This is NOT a "bad time". Would one rather be living through the Civil War in the 1860's? Or, maybe you'd rather have lived through the Great Depression. As we were growing up, folks were building fallout shelters because they feared the Russians would be attacking at any time. The "Red, White, and Blue" has come though many hard times and continue to fly proudly over our Country. Thanks to the sacrifice of many, I enjoyed rounds of golf the past two days... am free to worship where and how I please... owe not one dime to anyone as our home, cars, etc. are all paid for... have children and grandchildren who are doing well in their family units. We live in a "good time" as far as I'm concerned!!!!!

:applause2: Very well said Grumpy Ol' Man, I feel the same way, couldn't agree more! I'm blessed to be born and raised in America, especially during my time, wouldn't change a thing. I find myself limiting the amount of time I can watch Fox news or listen to conservative talk show radio, as the anger, repetitive negative sound bites, scare tactics to frighten the public, and just hateful criticism of this country and all those who are different from them is incredibly toxic. Honestly, life is too short to hear that propaganda over and over again day after day and year after year. I pity those who believe it.

I've enjoyed all the beauty, freedoms and benefits of living in these United States all of my life, and I would like to see it get even better, not flushed down the toilet from right wing hatred and nonsense. We should all be proud and work together to lift this great country up, it can be even better than it already is, no doubt about that at all.
 
I think when Conservative say this is a very BAD time in America they actually mean that they cannot express their bigotry like they used to be able to.. they are becoming the minority and people are calling them on it.
 
Let's Go All the Way With It!

Since my face is scarred I demand that I not be forced to show it on my D.L.

I demand that my "rights" allow me to wear a mask! imp
 
Or you could just stand behind a fence like tnthomas :grin:

Ah....Perhaps you folks down under did not see Tim Allen's "Home Improvement" series? I suspect the picture is a takeoff on Tim's neighbor, whose face was eternally kept hidden by their backyard fence. imp
 
Anyway it is clearly stated (if you read the Snopes data) the face cannot be covered. Head scarves are allowed but not facial coverings.
 
Anyway it is clearly stated (if you read the Snopes data) the face cannot be covered. Head scarves are allowed but not facial coverings.

But her face wouldn't show at all in a traditional burqa which covers a woman from head to toe. I think this was Davey's point. Her face would be completely hidden. Hardly any point in taking a picture at all.
 
I still Don't understand what the big deal is.. Who cares.. and how does this impact anyone? I look nothing like my DL picture.. I don't even have the same hair color any longer.
 
May I ask what is wrong with being sensitive to someone's religion.. Christians certainly want everyone to be... Is it because we don't agree with the custom and requirements.. Or is it because we just don't like anything related to the Muslim faith? What does it really matter anyway whether a few women are in a Burqua.. Should they not be able to drive? Do you realize how very few women this is? Most females in that sect are forbidden to drive by custom anyway and the few that do... is it really hurting anything? There are must more pressing things to get upset about.
 
May I ask what is wrong with being sensitive to someone's religion.. Christians certainly want everyone to be... Is it because we don't agree with the custom and requirements.. Or is it because we just don't like anything related to the Muslim faith? What does it really matter anyway whether a few women are in a Burqua.. Should they not be able to drive? Do you realize how very few women this is? Most females in that sect are forbidden to drive by custom anyway and the few that do... is it really hurting anything? There are must more pressing things to get upset about.

This has nothing to do with being sensitive to religion. This has every thing to do with equal application of the law. Driving is not a right,when you chose to maintain a drivers license,you agree to all the rules attendant. Having your face on your license is one of them.
All over this nation the Amish are required in violation of their beleifs to mark their buggies with flashing lights or reflective markings. In order to maintain a social civilization there needs to be some level compliance with things that may run counter to your personal ideals.
 

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