Kate Smith banned by Yankees

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Trade said:
So In spite of being a white dude for 72 years, I don't know anything about being white except for my own experience?

And yet you, a white woman, for however many years, present yourself as someone who knows a whole lot about what it's like to be black?

Could you explain the thought process that you used to arrive at those conclusions? Because I just don't get it.
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Show me where I said anything about "knowing what it's like to be black." I never said anything of the sort because I would not presume to do so. Stop putting words in my mouth; I can speak for myself.

I live my life responsibly, I take care of my own, and I don't ask anyone for handouts or sympathy. Most people live similar lives, but for a whining few who choose to be "offended." PLEASE. Frankly, I'm tired of it. I treat people with the same respect no matter what their color or religion, until they show me they don't deserve my respect. Last time I looked this was still a free country though there are those who are working hard to change that.
 

Olivia said:
It's not about a song. It's the fact that prejudice and discrimination in our culture hasn't changed much. In fact, has increased tremendously in the last couple of years. Maybe you haven't kept up with the news. And it's not just about Black and White. It's anyone that isn't "just like us". I'm not saying that's you. Not at all. But there are more and more like rpg, who don't even try to pretend anymore, because they've got many just like them. Sadly. People just have to speak up.
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Bulletin for you: White people are NO MORE PREJUDICED than any other ethnicity. And if "people" need to speak up, why can't RPG?? PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT. The victim mentality in this country is appalling.

And I keep up with things just fine. I don't shape my opinions of what's happening in this country by the talking heads on CNN; I actually interact with PEOPLE like my Mexican-American next door neighbors, my Latino son-in-law, and the precious black couple across the street whose little girl is like one of my own. I see what happens IN REAL LIFE, not on the TV screen. But thanks for playing.
 
C'est Moi said:
Show me where I said anything about "knowing what it's like to be black." I never said anything of the sort because I would not presume to do so.
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Happy to oblige.

Frankly, I don't see anyone being "held back" today if they have the gumption to get out there and work for the life they want.
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Trade said:
Happy to oblige.
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As I said, show me where I said I know what it's like to be black. You are putting your own pathetic spin on my words.

And that's all I have to say about that. These threads are such a waste of bandwidth; I don't know why I get sucked in. Have a nice day.
 
C'est Moi said:
As I said, show me where I said I know what it's like to be black. You are putting your own pathetic spin on my words.
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If by "spin" you mean that I took your statement to mean that you believe black people have the same opportunities as white people then yes, I did spin it.

Did you mean that? Or was it something else pray tell?
 
Trade said:
If by "spin" you mean that I took your statement to mean that you believe black people have the same opportunities as white people then yes, I did spin it.

Did you mean that? Or was it something else pray tell?
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They [black folk] have even more opportunities than do whites.......The civil rights acts passed in the 60's..EEO, MBE, Affirmative Action,....all BS. If they want equality? & /or they should be considered equal?...Why do they need constant handouts/hand-ups? Where is the equality ?
 
Olivia said:
It's not about a song. It's the fact that prejudice and discrimination in our culture hasn't changed much. In fact, has increased tremendously in the last couple of years. Maybe you haven't kept up with the news. And it's not just about Black and White. It's anyone that isn't "just like us". I'm not saying that's you. Not at all. But there are more and more like rpg, who don't even try to pretend anymore, because they've got many just like them. Sadly. People just have to speak up.
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I never pretended...I have always been honest about it.

Are you pretending?

If you & others can "speak-up" regarding racism in favor of the blacks?...why is it wrong for me, [or anyone] to "speak-up" regarding racism in favor of white folks?.........Where's the equality in that?
 
Geezerette said:
So Trade, have you had your DNA done? Are you absolutely, positively sure what you are?
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I'm glad you asked that question!

Once again, happy to oblige.

As you can see, 100% Caucasian.

I'm a mix of Polack and Dutch. That's why I have such a hard head.

And now you also know my real first name.



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Well, I am not 100 per cent white, but Trade, my white is whiter than your white because I am mostly Irish, and Irish is really really white. I also have a touch of German and a sprinkle of American Indian. The American Indian makes me more entitled to this piece of Mother Earth we call the United States.

I am sharing my piece of Mother Earth with anyone who wants a piece. All are welcome here, I can not wait for the “browning of America” to be complete so we can quit have these nonsensical discussions about the color of one’s skin.
 
Aneeda72 said:
In those days, there were rules. People liked rules. We all, no matter what color we were, knew the rules and knew where we belonged in those rules. We danced the dance of racism together, we still do. We were/are all responsible for the parts we played then, and the parts we play now.

Its easy to proclaim you are not racist on a forum. But where do you live, who are your neighbors? I live in a racially mixed neighborhood. Blacks, whites, Hispanics, and some interracial marriages between us all with even more diversity. We are so fortunate in that none of us are racist, all of us are friendly, and there are no problems on the block. If only the world could be as kind as this neighborhood is, I hate that I have to move.

Sunny, I am reluctant to address anything regarding the Holocaust. The issues surrounding the Holocaust were and are currently political issues and can not be discussed on this forum.
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The Holocaust is political? That's a stretch.

Using your logic racial issues are also political, so you shouldn't be discussing race.
 
@ Trade

I told you a long time ago that in that picture of you as a little boy and also as a young man you look bi-racial.

:lofl: You're tryin' to pass! (hmmm, I remember when Ebony magazine had ads for bleaching creme.)

btw, is that you in your avatar?
 
Someone died and made me boss? YAY, can I have a pay raise? Yes, the Holocaust issues are political, google it or, idk, read a newspaper. And it says repeatedly no political discussions, not my rule. I’d be happy to discuss the Holocaust. Start a thread, we will discuss away.

I don’t feel like I am discussing race, I feel like I am discussing skin color, different issue, and Kate Smith, and how it was back when she was not a racist. But, lol, what do I know.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Someone died and made me boss? YAY, can I have a pay raise? Yes, the Holocaust issues are political, google it or, idk, read a newspaper. And it says repeatedly no political discussions, not my rule. I’d be happy to discuss the Holocaust. Start a thread, we will discuss away.

I don’t feel like I am discussing race, I feel like I am discussing skin color, different issue, and Kate Smith, and how it was back when she was not a racist. But, lol, what do I know.
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There are only two types who would consider a Holocaust discussion to be controversial or political and they are deniers and/or anti- semites. Why else would it cause disruption? Anyway, I know you are neither. Otherwise, such a discussion would be, should be, considered of historical significance.

Kate Smith--when I was a little kid I just could not stand her, she kinda scared me, I think, so I am more than happy not to hear her ever again for whatever reason. Let's give other singers a chance, Kate's not enshrined in the post. Onward!
 
applecruncher said:
@ Trade

I told you a long time ago that in that picture of you as a little boy and also as a young man you look bi-racial.

:lofl: You're tryin' to pass! (hmmm, I remember when Ebony magazine had ads for bleaching creme.)

btw, is that you in your avatar?
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I only wish I had some black DNA. Then maybe my you know what would be bigger.

I spent a lot of time out in the Florida Sun when I was a kid. Working on my tan. And I got pretty dark.

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But then I noticed that people who had been sun worshipers all their lives looked like they were 60 by the time they were 40. So I quit that.
 
Thank you Pepper.

I am neither. I KNOW the Holocaust happened. My stepfather, a WWII us army veteran, was there when the American Army reached Ohrdruf-Buchenwald, as were others. (My uncle, my mother’s brother was at Pearl Harbor when the Japanese attacked.). As mentioned in other posts, my family has always served our country.

My step-father helped with the liberation of the camp. No, I have no stories I can relate. He didn’t talk about. It was mentioned at certain times, memory fails, but I was a teenager. We watched certain movies. He would remark, “I was there”. He would ask us to turn the movie off. I mostly remember his sadness.

Mother would say dad’s (our bio dad’s) family had German Jews in it. Ancestry confirms the Germany connection. As mentioned in other posts, my nephew, his wife, and their children are Jewish. I know the Holocaust happened.
 
OK, so how many, here, care that KS sang a few songs that definitely had a racist bent? Would you pull this unrelated tune from your lineup?
 

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