And the shootings go on and on , and on, and on...

The only reason rgp brought up that Germans vs. Nazi's issue was to deflect attention from the fact that he is making a fool out of himself in this thread, by shouting at people outside of the U.S. that they have no right to comment on events taking place here. Nobody is listening to him or supporting that asinine argument, so he had to veer off the subject and start calling names like a schoolyard bully. Of course it never was about Germans vs. Nazi's. We all recognize that the majority of Germans, before and during WW2, were not hateful, racist storm troopers. Who ever said they were? (I lived in Germany for a year during the 1950's, and made lifelong friends while there).

My point in bringing up the Germans was to show an analogy. If Camper and other people living elsewhere than in the U.S. cannot be permitted* to comment on events here, then why were we "permitted" to wage war against Germany? What was going on in Germany was none of our business, right?

*And how would rgp propose to control which people are permitted to write about which subjects, anyway?
 

Sunny said:
The only reason rgp brought up that Germans vs. Nazi's issue was to deflect attention from the fact that he is making a fool out of himself in this thread, by shouting at people outside of the U.S. that they have no right to comment on events taking place here. Nobody is listening to him or supporting that asinine argument, so he had to veer off the subject and start calling names like a schoolyard bully. Of course it never was about Germans vs. Nazi's. We all recognize that the majority of Germans, before and during WW2, were not hateful, racist storm troopers. Who ever said they were? (I lived in Germany for a year during the 1950's, and made lifelong friends while there).

My point in bringing up the Germans was to show an analogy. If Camper and other people living elsewhere than in the U.S. cannot be permitted* to comment on events here, then why were we "permitted" to wage war against Germany? What was going on in Germany was none of our business, right?

*And how would rgp propose to control which people are permitted to write about which subjects, anyway?
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First off, now you are grasping at straws. I never said anything about permission, that is up to the moderators. I just said from a personal point of view.....butt out. It's my country & I don't want to hear it. Since his posts stood, it is obvious that the moderators disagree with me......so be it.


"Nobody is listening to him or supporting that asinine argument, so he had to veer off the subject and start calling names like a schoolyard bully. "

You are a nobody, and apparently you listened.


"We all recognize that the majority of Germans, before and during WW2, were not hateful, racist storm troopers. Who ever said they were?

In post #387 you said........

"if Germany wanted to throw umpteen millions of innocent people in the gas chamber back in the 1940's, it was nobody else's right to express an "opinion" about it, since they didn't live in Germany. Right? "

You said Germany, it was the Nazi's So your analogy doesn't pass muster.........
 
rgp said:
Grasping at straws.....pathetic.
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I recently saw your thread 'Sciatica.' You are a man in terrible, physical pain. Perhaps that is why you are such an unrelenting boor. The constant pain has infected you. Or, you're just a churl. I prefer the former, for your sake.
 

Pepper said:
I recently saw your thread 'Sciatica.' You are a man in terrible, physical pain. Perhaps that is why you are such an unrelenting boor. The constant pain has infected you. Or, you're just a churl. I prefer the former, for your sake.
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Well since you are going down the road of insults & name calling, let me just say.

I recognize the fact that you're just a poor imbecile.......But do try & have a nice day.
 
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Well, since I never threw out a name calling or insult, until one was tossed my way...........I'l be waiting patiently.
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Never? The pain has reached your brain, for sure. Call me any name you want, doesn't make it true. Starting to pity you. No, I won't waste my sympathies. Don't need to put you on 'ignore' as I can restrain myself without help. Was doing that till I saw 'Sciatica.' Back you go!
 
Pepper said:
Never? The pain has reached your brain, for sure. Call me any name you want, doesn't make it true. Starting to pity you. No, I won't waste my sympathies. Don't need to put you on 'ignore' as I can restrain myself without help. Was doing that till I saw 'Sciatica.' Back you go!
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Pity me ? Please do not. At least I'm not you ...........
 
he average individual can't do a thing about it.

It's up to the representatives. And they don't want to do anything about it.
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Interesting thread to reread, all the way from the beginning!

Camper, although I agree with you about 99%, I can't say 100% because of the above comment. I disagree with that; my own Congressional Representative, Jamie Raskin, is very much involved in gun control legislation. Most of the House of Representatives absolutely want to do something about it. They are stopped by the Senate, and those who are beholden to the NRA. Here's one item about Jamie. He's a very decent guy and brilliant at what he does. He speaks often to local groups, and is constantly in touch with the issues that matter to us.

https://jamieraskin.com/reducing-gun-violence-and-challenging-nra
 
Sunny said:
Interesting thread to reread, all the way from the beginning!

Camper, although I agree with you about 99%, I can't say 100% because of the above comment. I disagree with that; my own Congressional Representative, Jamie Raskin, is very much involved in gun control legislation. Most of the House of Representatives absolutely want to do something about it. They are stopped by the Senate, and those who are beholden to the NRA. Here's one item about Jamie. He's a very decent guy and brilliant at what he does. He speaks often to local groups, and is constantly in touch with the issues that matter to us.

https://jamieraskin.com/reducing-gun-violence-and-challenging-nra
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Most of the House of Representatives absolutely want to do something about it. They are stopped by the Senate, and those who are beholden to the NRA.
That's what I am talking about. Try as you might unless you have both houses you are dead in the water at the Federal level. So you try to do something at the state level.
 
rgp said:
Well, since I never threw out a name calling or insult, until one was tossed my way...........I'l be waiting patiently.
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Not true. You took the first shot in this thread.

Post #81 to me. And it escalated from there.

I can tell from your posts that you are a member of another forum that is heavily gun oriented.

The comments are amazingly similar.

I get the same thing that I have to defend myself against .

Fortunately I am a veteran of forum wars.
 
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Camper6 said:
Not true. You took the first shot in this thread.

Post #81 to me. And it escalated from there.

I can tell from your posts that you are a member of another forum that is heavily gun oriented.

The comments are amazingly similar.

I get the same thing that I have to defend myself against .

Fortunately I am a veteran of forum wars.
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BS.....go back & read it once again......I merely asked a question.
 
Wow. This thread has tanked since I last skimmed through. This is more like Jr. High than a Seniors' forum.

Pepper said:
I recently saw your thread 'Sciatica.' You are a man in terrible, physical pain. Perhaps that is why you are such an unrelenting boor. The constant pain has infected you. Or, you're just a churl. I prefer the former, for your sake.
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Winner, winner chicken dinner. 🏆 'Best' of all the poor form posts.
 
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One more time. The idea is not to ban all guns. We know you know all Ihe intimate details about guns and rifles and speculate all about the fictitious scenarios as all gun lovers do.
The average citizen doesn't care. They want the carnage mitigated. They feel the right to bear arms is not worth one innocent life. Military weapons are not necessary for civilians. The restrictions are necessary for the purpose of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
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Point missed - as expected.
 
Did we see this type of hometown violence in the US back in the 50s shootings in shopping centers, in grocery stores, and in schools? I know people owned firearms back then. I don’t recall ever hearing about it at that time, so what has changed?
 
Lc jones said:
Did we see this type of hometown violence in the US back in the 50s shootings in shopping centers, in grocery stores, and in schools? I know people owned firearms back then. I don’t recall ever hearing about it at that time, so what has changed?
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The firearms are different. What changed is money. Guns are expensive and are now affordable. Young men now want the latest and the greatest. Back then the source of pride was a hunting rifle.
 
Lc jones said:
Did we see this type of hometown violence in the US back in the 50s shootings in shopping centers, in grocery stores, and in schools? I know people owned firearms back then. I don’t recall ever hearing about it at that time, so what has changed?
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The Internet. That’s what’s changed.
People do this for a reason. Attention.
Unfortunately bad news and disaster sells. People can’t seem to get enough of it and mass shootings get talked about for weeks meaning the killers do also. Plus weapons have become more automated.
 
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Keesha said:
People can’t seem to get enough of it and mass shootings get talked about for weeks meaning the killers do also.
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Said post #470

I find it interesting reading the various directions this thread has taken

It's like saying 'BOO!' to someone taking an EKG

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Heh, at least it ain't
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Please

carry on, and on, and on, and on, and on....
 
Camper6 said:
Most of the House of Representatives absolutely want to do something about it. They are stopped by the Senate, and those who are beholden to the NRA.
That's what I am talking about. Try as you might unless you have both houses you are dead in the water at the Federal level. So you try to do something at the state level.
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Lawmakers have to be careful, even at the state level. No law can be passed at the state level, if it contradicts Federal laws. Federal laws trump state laws. (No pun intended.)
 
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State Marijuana laws contradict Federal laws. I know the Feds can crack down, but so far, of course, they have not. Laws Can be passed at state level. Whether they can stand up to a legal challenge is something else. State abortion laws come to mind; these are much more prevalent than pot laws.
 
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