Changing Grammar Over The Years!

Life's too short to worry about this stuff. Say what you will, how you will. If I don't understand the gist of what you're trying to get across, rest assured that I'll ask you to further expound during our repartee.
 
Well, the title of this thread is about grammar. Just seems reasonable to post about that topic
 

Olivia said:
I don't know why it shouldn't continue to bother you.

By the way, I now want to know the story behind that sentence. šŸ™ƒ You can't just leave it hanging there (not to be confused with dangling participles).
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I confess to my everlasting male shame that the quotation is from a romance! I always looked down on romances until about 5 years ago but have become a fan ever since. Maybe the change was brought on by my testosterone forsaking me or by reading Nora Roberts books (my wife left behind) as starters to the genre. In any case, in a nut shell: A woman finds out on the day of her wedding that her fiancee got her identical twin sister pregnant. She flees the embarrassing scene and ends up in Michigan. There she receives a texted apology, containing the quoted sentence, from the douche of an ex fiancee.
 
Thank you for posting that. I've never been a fan of romance novels, but I consider Nora Roberts a cut above most of those. In any case, I don't think that's anything to be ashamed of. That's kind of sweet really.
 
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We Americans make grammatical errors all the time. Some because it's the slang of the region or we lazily forget to add this or that. Sometimes I'm the grammar police...but I'm not perfect either. You are absolutely right about the Roger and I. The sentence dictates that it be Roger and me for the reason you stated. I hate it when people leave the apostrophe S off of something that shows ownership.. (eg: my mother house) NO! It's my mother's house!
I have heard farther and further used interchangeably. Except one would not say "she wants to farther her career but she wants to further her career. This is the explanation of usage from the Thesaurus:
"farther, farthest; further, furthestTraditionally, farther and farthest were used in referring to physical distance: the falls were still two or three miles farther up the path. Further and furthest were restricted to figurative or abstract senses: we decided to consider the matter further. Although farther and farthest are still restricted to measurable distances, further and furthest are now common in both senses: those plants should be furthest from the window."
 
Olivia said:
Thank you for posting that. I've never been a fan of romance novels, but I consider Nora Roberts a cut above most of those. In any case, I don't think that's anything to be ashamed of. That's kind of sweet really.
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Thank you. What a nice thing to say. I never worry about Nora Roberts' grammar because she is published by professionals. My disillusionment has been brought on by the self-published authors. Actually, most of them are not bad writers and tell a tale that usually keeps my attention, but the mistakes!!! Gender and name mix-ups, dropped words, the infamous "who" vs. "whom"and "whoever vs. whomever" and finally "for Roger and I!" If they only got themselves at least a proof reader! :) I'll happily keep reading them and want everyone to take the subject of grammar with a grain of salt. I live alone and like to get good discussions (not arguments) going. What better subject for a post than something that irks me on an hourly basis. It is not my attention to get anyone's back up just because they say "for Roger and I! I don't judge my friends by their grammar. And I don't want to watch MY grammar every time I write.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
We Americans make grammatical errors all the time. Some because it's the slang of the region or we lazily forget to add this or that. Sometimes I'm the grammar police...but I'm not perfect either. You are absolutely right about the Roger and I. The sentence dictates that it be Roger and me for the reason you stated. I hate it when people leave the apostrophe S off of something that shows ownership.. (eg: my mother house) NO! It's my mother's house!
I have heard farther and further used interchangeably. Except one would not say "she wants to farther her career but she wants to further her career. This is the explanation of usage from the Thesaurus:
"farther, farthest; further, furthestTraditionally, farther and farthest were used in referring to physical distance: the falls were still two or three miles farther up the path. Further and furthest were restricted to figurative or abstract senses: we decided to consider the matter further. Although farther and farthest are still restricted to measurable distances, further and furthest are now common in both senses: those plants should be furthest from the window."
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Re. your last paragraph, OneEyedDiva. Exactly. For as long as I can remember everyone stuck to that rule. Nowadays, farther, farthest seems to have been dropped in favour of further and furthest. Or maybe it is something else I could blame self-published authors for. If I were a stickler I would censor myself for not correcting my previous sentence. Off to bed. And my thanks to everyone who made my day fuller than it has been! (y):)
 
A friend complained to me that he had to replace his hot water heater." What is a hot water heater?
No one says "There are two." Everyone says "There's two."
So.....when did people start answering a question with "so?"
 
Olivia, here's what I mean. "The regulations order that a detective must wear his badge." Well, what is the detective was female? Then, you resort to that dumb "his/her". Example: The regulations order that a detective must wear his/her badge. I propose, " a detective must wear sheir badge". Bet you can't guess I thought of this all by myself.
 
So.....when did people start answering a question with "so?
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Not only answering questions, Win. On some of the talk shows, lately, I've been noticing that a lot of (younger) people have gotten into the habit of starting out whatever they are saying with the word, "So." I find it irritating for some reason.

Moderator: Candidate X, there are stories making the rounds about your latest adventure in Wicheta.

Candidate X: So, my place had just landed there, when.... etc.
 
When a wrong makes a right! After some time passes. :)

I am just reading this in another one of my romances:

"... accessible only through an obscure gate that nobody but the hotel staff and me seem to have found!" This is where "the hotel staff and I" would be proper English but we have used the me in this context so often that it has become right! Which is fine with me as long as "for Roger and I" doesn't meet the same fate. The former sounds right and acceptable, the latter sounds artificial, meant to impress, even though it is wrong!
 

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