Harry and Meghan update

They want to be on their own then let them. That means earning a living for yourselves and paying your own bills and security needs. I never cared for her or Harry either. Just my opinion but I think she wants her cake and eat it too. Read several articles about how she treated people that served her. A lot of them probably not true but probably some are close to the truth. So she can go back to acting and Harry can do whatever he can. I noticed the Queen did not use their titles in speaking about them. So maybe she will take their titles away which would be right since they don't want them. Was not impressed with her acting in "Suits" but I did like the series.
 

I'm afraid most of this is speculation, largely unfounded.

This was not an "emergency summit" simply Grandma knocking a few family heads together.

I'll wager there are still one or two grandmas in the US capable of similar action!

Nothing has been decided. HM has made her wishes known and household officials will report back to her on how her wishes will be implemented, such reports to be made sooner rather than later.

Incidentally, unless it is a very peculiar sort of democracy, in is not up to the Canadian PM to decide whether Canada should pay for their security, but his voters!

Perhaps one of our Canadian friends could clarify this?

Such a proposal is unlikely to find wholehearted approval in the nether regions of Quebec I think!
 

it'll all blow over soon. You can only spin something out for so long. The reason I mentioned good old Henry VIII was his anger at the Pope for not granting him a divorce from his catholic wife, so he up and started his own Church of England (now Anglican) and immediately (as head of said church) granted himself a divorce. Canny little fella he was.
 
immediately (as head of said church) granted himself a divorce. Canny little fella he was.

He didn't. While he is technically head of the church the Archbishop of Canterbury though appointed by the sovereign, is in charge.

I think you are being overly optimistic in saying itbwill blow over soon.

I had a blazing tow with my son over it yesterday, and I doubt that either of us will change soon.

People will remember, and discuss, it just as they do Diana, and the abdication crisis.

You will even find people with diametrically opposed views on the execution of King Charles, and there are pubs here in Scotland where they still pass their whisky over the water jug before drinking (to the King over the water).
 
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Well, the results are in.

A dignified and firm response from the Queen and I think she will have achieved most of what she wanted.

The "Sussex Royal" website must remain,a concern, but DDOS on a regular basis should not be too hard to achieve if it becomes necessary.

For those who haven't seen the detail, briefly there will be no part time, half and half royals.

They will give up all royal duties, though retaining private patronages, and will lose their "Highness" titles. Harry will remain a Prince, but she will stay a duchess.

Not only will they not receive another penny from the public purse, but they will also have to repay the $1.5 million of taxpayers money they spent on redecorating Frogmate Cottage. They will retain the use of the Cottage, but it is "Grace and favour" apartment of which the Queen has several at her disposal, some of them occupied by non-royals'

Hopefully they will spend much of the time in Canada as Canadians are pretty friendly and tolerant folk as any draft dodger will tell you!

She will swan around North America while he trails in her wake like the lap dog he is already becoming.

There is still the upcoming court case but the Mail, a Murdoch paper, will be under pressure to make a "no liability" out of court settlement.

They will become a footnote of history like the Windsors, though he, at least, was briefly on the throne.

If she thinks the press are bad now, she ain't seen nothing yet.

While he will indulgently be permitted to whore around like his uncle, if she so much as catches a waiter's eye across a restaurant the red tops will be screaming impropriety.

They've got a hard row to hoe, of their own making.
 
"Que será, será
Whatever will be, will be ..." -
Jay Livingston and Ray Evans

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I was pleased to hear the couple are repaying the restoration cost of Frogmore Cottage, and hope they will pay for their own security as they travel around the world, those were the two things that seemed way out of line to me

The decision was handled badly but I don’t blame them at all for wanting out, hopefully the dust will settle eventually and, although they will always have the press to contend with, they can live a more normal life where their children are not parodied as chimps, as happened with baby Archie as soon as he was born, and they don’t have the press flying over their home in helicopters taking photos, as also occurred hounding them from their home, I wish them well
 
Fair enough Laurie. We're all entitled to our opinion. It's sad that you got into a blazing row with your son- not worth it. Henry hadn't appointed anyone as head of the church at the beginning. Anyway .... growing up my mother always reminded me about the things I shouldn't get into discussions about and I think I'll add the Royals to that. :)
 
well I hope they enjoy their move to Canada ' really not interested where they lay their hat tbh '
the only thing concerns me is the falling out of the 2 brothers ..but maybe in time who knows …
 
well I hope they enjoy their move to Canada ' really not interested where they lay their hat tbh '
the only thing concerns me is the falling out of the 2 brothers ..but maybe in time who knows …

I don't think it is the brothers who have fallen out but their wives, a far more intractable problem! Harry and Catherine used to be as close as a natural brother and sister. You never see evidence of that now.
 
Sometimes family means only the same last name or dna. That's it period

That being said I'm glad to see Harry and Meghan go for it on their own. Too many families in general have members/hangers on that don't want to do it on their own waiting until they are forced out. Sometimes it's just best to detach or separate one's self from the situation.

I have to wonder though when this family/reality tv drama makes headline news. That is what I don't understand. The subject matter I get.
 
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I don't think it is the brothers who have fallen out but their wives, a far more intractable problem! Harry and Catherine used to be as close as a natural brother and sister. You never see evidence of that now.
I heard that the Queen invited both brothers to a lunch before the ''emergency meeting''. Harry accepted but William did not. Maybe William is tired of all the Sussex shenanigans and was too angry to have lunch with granny and little brother?
 
I heard that the Queen invited both brothers to a lunch before the ''emergency meeting''. Harry accepted but William did not. Maybe William is tired of all the Sussex shenanigans and was too angry to have lunch with granny and little brother?

Rot!

The Queen does not "invite", she commands, and it would be a brave member of the Royal Household who refuses, from her husband down to Young Archie.

The Queen, as she should, shows a charming public face, but she's her mother's daughter, and Elizabeth of Glamis was a woman of Steel.
 
I agree with WIT- a TV reality drama. It will blow over. With so much media attention on so many different things happening in so many different places ... you get what I mean. Here in Australia we have a major problem with bush fires raging, people dying, a billion wild animals lost. Take your pick of interest. In the U.S where does the royal drama play out against Mr Trump's impeachment. Let's get our priorities in place. Laurie- you are obviously a staunch monarchist and welcome to your opinion and this I respect. However, it does not make you right!!! People nowadays have shorter attention spans due to so much happening around them. Instant news 24/7. Social media 24/7. :) Give me sport any day.
 
I heard that the Queen invited both brothers to a lunch before the ''emergency meeting''. Harry accepted but William did not. Maybe William is tired of all the Sussex shenanigans and was too angry to have lunch with granny and little brother?

And where/when did you hear this? 🤔
Was it the same source where you read or heard about Meghan supposedly leaving her ex-husband for Harry...3 years before she even met Harry? 🤣 :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
I must admit I was very surprised when the queen gave permission for them to marry. I bet she is now wishing she had considered it more carefully. The royal family knew the sort of background Meghan came from and her previous marital history. They must have known how unsuitable she was for a royal prince.
I bet not a few people are saying,'I told you so!'.

I'm more surprised that it was allowed to move so fast. You know she was vetted and the Markles' messes were clearly evident before the marriage though I doubt anyone expected their blow-ups to be as bad as they eventually played/are still playing out. Her social climbing and habit of discarding friends were also evident.

The queen should've hooked her up with some sort of theatre executive type job in London and required them to wait a year or two before marrying. But I think her age came into play there. And speaking of age, the wedding is when I lost respect for her in her new role. A divorced, mid 30s bride in a virginal blusher veil was ridiculous looking and tacky imo. That threw protocol completely out the window in a world that's protocol driven.
 
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I'm more surprised that it was allowed to move so fast. You know she was vetted and the Markle's messes were clearly evident before the marriage though I doubt anyone expected their blow-ups to be as bad as they eventually played/are still playing out. Her social climbing and habit of discarding friends were also evident.

The queen should've hooked her up with some sort of theatre executive type job in London and required them to wait a year or two before marrying. But I think her age came into play there. And speaking of age, the wedding is when I lost respect for her in her new role. A divorced, mid 30s bride in a virginal blusher veil was ridiculous looking and tacky imo. That threw protocol completely out the window in a world that's protocol driven.
If only virgins and sweet young things wore bridal veils and wedding gowns, David's Bridal would have gone out of business over 50 years ago.
 
And where/when did you hear this? 🤔
Was it the same source where you read or heard about Meghan supposedly leaving her ex-husband for Harry...3 years before she even met Harry? 🤣 :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

From now on I will make note of my ''sources'' before I post something. I don't remember where I heard about the lunch, but here's a post I found. I couldn't read the whole article, you have to register for it. The emergency meeting was for 2pm.
The article appeared at the telegraph.co.uk 7 days ago. Title = Staff banished, and a calming lunch (Link won't take)
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7 days ago - Staff had been told to prepare the Long Library, used to house a bowling alley and where, as children, Princes William and Harry would take tea while staying at the Queen's Norfolk estate. ... It is thought the Queen, the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Sussex had lunch together before Prince William arrived at 1.45pm.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/01/13/sandringham-summit-happened/
 


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