Harry and Meghan update

Butterfly said:
Wikipedia says their last name is now officially Windsor:

"The name was changed from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the English Windsor (from Windsor Castle) in 1917 because of anti-German sentiment in the British Empire during World War I. There have been four British monarchs of the house of Windsor to date: three kings and the present queen, Elizabeth II. "
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I've never understood all this about the royal family being German. The English are mostly Saxon and where did the Saxons come from? Yes, that's right...Germany!
 
Wikipedia says their last name is now officially Windsor:

You can call a horse a donkey, but don't make it one!

With Hanoverians, Danes, Dutchmen, Welshmen, Scots, Normans and sundry other erstwhile occupiers of their throne, the English haven't had much in the way of native monarchs over the centuries!
 

Henry the V111 a over bearing bully spoilt greedy oaf of a man --he never listened to anyone in his court -
they where scared stiff to say what they wanted too......…
he burned beautiful churches etc and abbey's---

well back to harry and meg ---they have got what she wanted ' so maybe now it will be the end of the saga ...
lets look in --In a year or two--and as for her father who clearly cannot keep his mouth closed to the tv
about his princess daughter who has let the royals down ' wonder what little story he will come up with ,
 
Catlady said:
RR, this is what I found in Wikipedia

Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark was born in Mon Repos on the Greek island of Corfu on 10 June 1921, the only son and fifth and final child of Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark and Princess Alice of Battenberg.[3] A member of the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, itself a branch of the House of Oldenburg, he was a prince of both Greece and Denmark by virtue of his patrilineal descent from George I of Greece and Christian IX of Denmark, and he was from birth in the line of succession to both thrones; the 1953 Succession Act removed his family branch's succession rights in Denmark.[4] Philip's four elder sisters were Margarita, Theodora, Cecilie, and Sophie. He was baptised in the Greek Orthodox rite at St. George's Church in the Old Fortress in Corfu.

Shortly after Philip's birth, his maternal grandfather, Prince Louis of Battenberg, then known as Louis Mountbatten, Marquess of Milford Haven, died in London. Louis was a naturalised British citizen, who, after a career in the Royal Navy, had renounced his German titles and adopted the surname Mountbatten—an Anglicised version of Battenberg—during the First World War, owing to anti-German sentiment in the United Kingdom. After visiting London for the memorial, Philip and his mother returned to Greece where Prince Andrew had remained behind to command an army division embroiled in the Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh
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I already read that Catlady, but thank you. I have to delve much further , which I have and still can't figure out why Greece wanted a non-Greek king. It's so confusing that I give up!
 
Laurie said:
Wikipedia says their last name is now officially Windsor:

You can call a horse a donkey, but don't make it one!

With Hanoverians, Danes, Dutchmen, Welshmen, Scots, Normans and sundry other erstwhile occupiers of their throne, the English haven't had much in the way of native monarchs over the centuries!
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Cannot believe I found this article because it's been so many years since I read it and I usually have no luck going back and finding something like this years later. This genealogist (quite rightly imo) counted the Royal ancestors who once only married within their Royal group as an 'ethnic group' outside geographic boundaries since they married beyond national borders but within what was basically an extended family group.

The Ethnic Ancestry Of Prince William

Elizabeth II Q of the U K:
38.769 531 25 % English
38.769 531 25 % Royal
6.25 % Anglo-Irish
6.25 % Hungarian
3.759 765 625 % French
2.880 859 375 % German
1.562 5 % Irish
0.439 453 125 % Dutch
0.439 453 125 % Scottish
0.292 968 75 % Danish
0.244 140 625 % Belgian
0.244 140 625 % Swedish
0.097 656 25 % Bohemian

Prince Charles
58.129 882 812 5 % Royal
19.384 765 625 % English
8.105 468 75 % German
4.687 5 % Hungarian
3.320 312 5 % French
3.125 % Anglo-Irish
0.781 25 % Irish
0.488 281 25 % Danish
0.292 968 75 % Swedish
0.292 968 75 % Swiss
0.268 554 687 5 % Belgian
0.268 554 687 5 % Dutch
0.244 140 625 % Bohemian
0.219 726 562 5 % Scottish
0.195 312 5 % Lithuanian
0.195 312 5 % Russian

Prince William of Wales:
35.327 148 437 5 % English
29.418 945 312 5 % Royal
14.404 296 875 % Scottish
5.383 300 781 25 % German
3.747 558 593 75 % Irish
3.320 312 5 % French
3.295 898 437 5 % Anglo-Irish
2.343 75 % Hungarian
0.781 25 % Armenian
0.585 937 5 % Dutch
0.292 968 75 % Danish
0.292 968 75 % Welsh
0.158 691 906 25 % Belgian
0.146 484 375 % Swedish
0.146 484 375 % Swiss
0.122 070 312 5 % Bohemian
0.097 656 25 % Lithuanian
0.097 656 25 % Russian
0.036 621 093 75 % Jersiaise
 
still can't figure out why Greece wanted a non-Greek king.

For the same reasons as the English wanted the Germans, Dutch, Scottish and Welsh referred to earlier!

Didn't the Swedes invite French general to be King, the First of the cuiient line?
 
Harry and Meghan are looking to buy a $27 million house in Canada, even though their total net worth is supposedly about $30-36 million and the allowance they get from Charles only amounts to 5% of what they need yearly. Their future wealth depends on whether they will be allowed to use Sussex Royal for their trademarks, it is still being decided.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/m...-families-2020-01-24?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo
 
Laurie said:
still can't figure out why Greece wanted a non-Greek king.

For the same reasons as the English wanted the Germans, Dutch, Scottish and Welsh referred to earlier!

Didn't the Swedes invite French general to be King, the First of the cuiient line?
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I thought there was conquering involved, not by invitation. Thanks, Laurie.
 
AnnieA said:
Cannot believe I found this article because it's been so many years since I read it and I usually have no luck going back and finding something like this years later. This genealogist (quite rightly imo) counted the Royal ancestors who once only married within their Royal group as an 'ethnic group' outside geographic boundaries since they married beyond national borders but within what was basically an extended family group.

The Ethnic Ancestry Of Prince William

Elizabeth II Q of the U K:
38.769 531 25 % English
38.769 531 25 % Royal
6.25 % Anglo-Irish
6.25 % Hungarian
3.759 765 625 % French
2.880 859 375 % German
1.562 5 % Irish
0.439 453 125 % Dutch
0.439 453 125 % Scottish
0.292 968 75 % Danish
0.244 140 625 % Belgian
0.244 140 625 % Swedish
0.097 656 25 % Bohemian

Prince Charles
58.129 882 812 5 % Royal
19.384 765 625 % English
8.105 468 75 % German
4.687 5 % Hungarian
3.320 312 5 % French
3.125 % Anglo-Irish
0.781 25 % Irish
0.488 281 25 % Danish
0.292 968 75 % Swedish
0.292 968 75 % Swiss
0.268 554 687 5 % Belgian
0.268 554 687 5 % Dutch
0.244 140 625 % Bohemian
0.219 726 562 5 % Scottish
0.195 312 5 % Lithuanian
0.195 312 5 % Russian

Prince William of Wales:
35.327 148 437 5 % English
29.418 945 312 5 % Royal
14.404 296 875 % Scottish
5.383 300 781 25 % German
3.747 558 593 75 % Irish
3.320 312 5 % French
3.295 898 437 5 % Anglo-Irish
2.343 75 % Hungarian
0.781 25 % Armenian
0.585 937 5 % Dutch
0.292 968 75 % Danish
0.292 968 75 % Welsh
0.158 691 906 25 % Belgian
0.146 484 375 % Swedish
0.146 484 375 % Swiss
0.122 070 312 5 % Bohemian
0.097 656 25 % Lithuanian
0.097 656 25 % Russian
0.036 621 093 75 % Jersiaise
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Annie....
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RadishRose said:
I thought there was conquering involved, not by invitation. Thanks, Laurie.
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Well, William did, of course, but most of those from the mainland, Germans, Dutch, Danes, came by invitation.

Most of the others got in by killing cousins, brothers, uncles and the like.

About Harry, while he may try to use Sussex Royal it is unlikely to have full blessing.

The issue of the Royal Warrant "By Appointment" is jealously guarded, not least by the retailers who hold it themselves.

It's time he started supporting himself, not sponging off his dad.
 
just reading last night about harry and meg …..they hated the intrusion of our press--so they go to Vancouver '
but the press from all different countries are there now ' and there is no law that can stop the press - now their using
long range lenses to see into their home --- talk about jumping out of the frying pan into the fire --
 
RadishRose said:
Oh yes, I forgot about those.

I thought it was up to the queen to issue a royal warrant... does she have to prove to someone else, why?

I agree Harry and Meghan should support themselves. Do you think Charles should iron his own shoelaces? :LOL:
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Royal Warrants are "given" ( in fact I believe there is a substantial fee) by the Royal personage concerned.

I have seen "By Appointment to ......." both Philip and Charles, and I would think that William is awarding his own by now.

If Charles has someone to iron his shoelaces he pays for them himself.

While he gets Royal "expenses" (I doubt he paid his own fare to Davos!) Charles is, more than any other Royal, virtually self supporting from the revenues of his well run Duchy estates.
 
toffee said:
just reading last night about harry and meg …..they hated the intrusion of our press--so they go to Vancouver '
but the press from all different countries are there now ' and there is no law that can stop the press - now their using
long range lenses to see into their home --- talk about jumping out of the frying pan into the fire --
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If they truly want to be out of the limelight they will fade from view after a time. Sarah Ferguson was all headlines all the time during her marriage to Andrew, but drifted down to the B or C celebrity list a few short years after they separated. Yeah, she makes the gossip rags now and again, but not like when she was fresh meat.

Harry & Meghan seem to be a lovely young couple who want to raise their family in their own way. I'm far less distressed by any missteps in how they've communicated this than I am by the the widespread, greedy hope and anticipation of their failure. Talk about schadenfreude!
 

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