Harry and Meghan update

Catlady said:
From now on I will make note of my ''sources'' before I post something. I don't remember where I heard about the lunch, but here's a post I found. I couldn't read the whole article, you have to register for it. The emergency meeting was for 2pm.
The article appeared at the telegraph.co.uk 7 days ago. Title = Staff banished, and a calming lunch (Link won't take)
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7 days ago - Staff had been told to prepare the Long Library, used to house a bowling alley and where, as children, Princes William and Harry would take tea while staying at the Queen's Norfolk estate. ... It is thought the Queen, the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Sussex had lunch together before Prince William arrived at 1.45pm.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/01/13/sandringham-summit-happened/
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Harry is 6th in line to be King. The odds he'll be King are extremely remote. Half the people in the UK wouldn't mind abolishing the monarchy, while the other 50 % are for keeping the monarchy. The press in the UK has always been intrusive, and persistent. When you put all these factors together, maybe staying in the family business isn't that attractive. I don't know, Unfortunately I never met the Sussexs. What ever they do, the press coverage seems ungodly excessive. Harry is actually now a minor royal- his highest rank was being the "Spare". What Harry and his wife do is not going to change the world- nor the monarchy. It seems he just wants to be left alone, for a life on his own.
 
I thought it was mean of them to strip Harry of his military titles, he served his country spending
10 years in the army where he undertook two operational tours of Afghanistan and qualified as an Apache helicopter commander. His career came to an end in June 2015.
While working as a royal, Harry founded the Invictus Games, a competition for injured, sick and wounded Armed Forces personnel and veterans.
 
Wren said:
I thought it was mean of them to strip Harry of his military titles, he served his country spending
10 years in the army where he undertook two operational tours of Afghanistan and qualified as an Apache helicopter commander. His career came to an end in June 2015.
While working as a royal, Harry founded the Invictus Games, a competition for injured, sick and wounded Armed Forces personnel and veterans.
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I didn't know they did that! Wow, that's low.
 
Catlady said:
According to this article, Harry and Meghan didn't expect to lose as much as they have. They probably thought they could have their cake and eat it, too, halfway in and out of royalty.
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It did seem that way and I agree, it was misguided of them but Harry’s Military titles were well earned and, I would’ve thought, a separate issue to the financial side of things, ten years is a long time out of a young man’s life and personally I think he should’ve been allowed to keep his titles
 
Wren said:
It did seem that way and I agree, it was misguided of them but Harry’s Military titles were well earned and, I would’ve thought a separate issue to the financial side of things, ten years is a long time out of a young man’s life and personally I think he should’ve been allowed to keep his titles
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I guess I don't understand how that military title thing works in GB. According to the quoted article, Harry "inherited" the titles from Prince Phillip. :unsure:

The prince, who served as a helicopter pilot in Afghanistan, will give up his military titles, including captain general of the Royal Marines, which could be painful to him, according to people with ties to the family. He inherited those titles from his grandfather Prince Philip and has defined himself through his military service.
 
C'est Moi said:
I guess I don't understand how that military title thing works in GB. According to the quoted article, Harry "inherited" the titles from Prince Phillip. :unsure:
He inherited those titles from his grandfather Prince Philip and has defined himself through his military service.
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I may be wrong but I think it’s only one title inherited from Prince Phillip

As part of the new arrangement, Buckingham Palace said Harry will give up being Honorary Air Commandant Royal Air Force Honington and Commodore-in-Chief of Small Ships and Divings.

He will also lose the title Captain General of the Royal Marines, a role he was given by Queen Elizabeth in 2017, succeeding Prince Philip.

Although Harry is a retired Armed Service personnel member, the new deal also prevents him from wearing his military uniform at public events, including Trooping the Colour and Remembrance Sunday at the cenotaph

The next time he is at a military event he should be in civilian clothes because he is no longer involved with any military units
 
Wren said:
I thought it was mean of them to strip Harry of his military titles, he served his country spending
10 years in the army where he undertook two operational tours of Afghanistan and qualified as an Apache helicopter commander. His career came to an end in June 2015.
While working as a royal, Harry founded the Invictus Games, a competition for injured, sick and wounded Armed Forces personnel and veterans.
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They haven't stripped him of his military titles, like any other officer he goes on the retired list.

What he has lost, quite rightly, is his honorary titles. He cannot be Captain General of the Royal Marines if he's going to spend half his time abroad, nor can he be Colonel in Chief of various regiments if he is not available to grace mess functions and present awards.

Speaking personally, as a vet, I see nothing wrong in this.
 
rgp said:
BTW.....what is Harry's last name ? We keep hearing Megan Markle this & that.....isn't she Mrs. [his last name] ?
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GREAT question!

I had to look it up. I thought it would be Mountbatten or Windsor. But, this is all that Wikipedia had to say, I'm confused, no last name? =

"His parents announced their second son's name would officially be Prince Henry Charles Albert David, but that he would be known as Harry to his family and friends "
 
Okay, here it is, finally found it =

"In accordance with law and custom in the English-speaking world, the surname Mountbatten-Windsor belongs to all male-line descendants of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, and is used by them if and when a surname is needed. "
 
Catlady said:
Okay, here it is, finally found it =

"In accordance with law and custom in the English-speaking world, the surname Mountbatten-Windsor belongs to all male-line descendants of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, and is used by them if and when a surname is needed. "
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Ah-Ha...Thanks for the reply ........and all your hard work... :)
 
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Catlady said:
Okay, here it is, finally found it =

"In accordance with law and custom in the English-speaking world, the surname Mountbatten-Windsor belongs to all male-line descendants of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, and is used by them if and when a surname is needed. "
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That is the politically sanitised version!

The Queen is actually a Saxe Coburg Gotha from her Great Great Great Grandfather, but since she is of a generation where wives took their husband's name on marriage, she became a Battenberg, as are all her male progeny.

Always remember they are German usurpers, and the direct descendant of Llewellyn the Great still lives in North Wales, and the direct descendant of Bonnie Prince Charlie is still in sanctuary in France. Not for nothing is France known as "The Auld Alliance"!

Must go now; I believe Special Branch are at the door!
 
Prince Philip is a member of the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-GlĂźcksburg, known as the House of GlĂźcksburg, so the Surname Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-GlĂźcksburg.

How and why did Greece end up with a Danish king?

So how did he end up being born in Greece and with the last name of Montbatten. Isn't he Danish?

Honestly, I tried to reseach this, but it's so confusing! Point me in the right direction, someone?
 
RR, this is what I found in Wikipedia

Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark was born in Mon Repos on the Greek island of Corfu on 10 June 1921, the only son and fifth and final child of Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark and Princess Alice of Battenberg.[3] A member of the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-GlĂźcksburg, itself a branch of the House of Oldenburg, he was a prince of both Greece and Denmark by virtue of his patrilineal descent from George I of Greece and Christian IX of Denmark, and he was from birth in the line of succession to both thrones; the 1953 Succession Act removed his family branch's succession rights in Denmark.[4] Philip's four elder sisters were Margarita, Theodora, Cecilie, and Sophie. He was baptised in the Greek Orthodox rite at St. George's Church in the Old Fortress in Corfu.

Shortly after Philip's birth, his maternal grandfather, Prince Louis of Battenberg, then known as Louis Mountbatten, Marquess of Milford Haven, died in London. Louis was a naturalised British citizen, who, after a career in the Royal Navy, had renounced his German titles and adopted the surname Mountbatten—an Anglicised version of Battenberg—during the First World War, owing to anti-German sentiment in the United Kingdom. After visiting London for the memorial, Philip and his mother returned to Greece where Prince Andrew had remained behind to command an army division embroiled in the Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh
 
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Laurie said:
That is the politically sanitised version!

The Queen is actually a Saxe Coburg Gotha from her Great Great Great Grandfather, but since she is of a generation where wives took their husband's name on marriage, she became a Battenberg, as are all her male progeny.

Always remember they are German usurpers, and the direct descendant of Llewellyn the Great still lives in North Wales, and the direct descendant of Bonnie Prince Charlie is still in sanctuary in France. Not for nothing is France known as "The Auld Alliance"!

Must go now; I believe Special Branch are at the door!
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..... ???

Harry can't go by 'Prince' in this country either, or there could be copyright infringement issues from Prince's Estate. ...LOL
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I think we haven't heard the Queen's ruling on what's behind the heart of it all ...the branding of "Sussex Royal." She's had other members of the family profit from their family connections and hasn't been happy with it. Peter Phillips just rolled out an ad campaign selling milk in China that's totally corny but is earning him who knows how much.

The reason I think this is the crux of the problem is that the word broke in December that Harry and Meghan had applied in June 2019 to trademark everything from baby clothes to media outlets using Sussex Royal. In their pre-emptive announcement that they wanted to be part-time Royals, one of their grievances was that they weren't allowed to make their own money. $35 millionish for the wedding (more than William and Catherine), official trips to Africa, Morocco and Oceania, Meghan's extravagant wardrobe funded by Charles, completely remodeled home that didn't cost them a penny, millions in security paid for ...and those are just the big ticket items. Yet they complain that they can't make their own money? Something Harry has never been seen to worry about and that Meghan knew was verboten before she married. They supposedly have a combined net worth of 30-40 million USD, but spending as they have the first 20 months of their marriage, they'll run through that super quickly. They've been living the lives of billionaires so the odd 30 million won't go far.

The trademarking indicates plans to cash in on the cachet of being Royal on a massive scale, and I don't think the Queen should go for it. I think the Sussex Royal trademarking is what's behind the titles/HRH thing that's already been announced, but the final verdict on using that name hasn't yet been announced.
 
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Laurie said:
That is the politically sanitised version!

The Queen is actually a Saxe Coburg Gotha from her Great Great Great Grandfather, but since she is of a generation where wives took their husband's name on marriage, she became a Battenberg, as are all her male progeny.

Always remember they are German usurpers, and the direct descendant of Llewellyn the Great still lives in North Wales, and the direct descendant of Bonnie Prince Charlie is still in sanctuary in France. Not for nothing is France known as "The Auld Alliance"!

Must go now; I believe Special Branch are at the door!
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Wikipedia says their last name is now officially Windsor:

"The name was changed from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the English Windsor (from Windsor Castle) in 1917 because of anti-German sentiment in the British Empire during World War I. There have been four British monarchs of the house of Windsor to date: three kings and the present queen, Elizabeth II. "
 

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