Missouri couple greet marching protesters with guns

Once again, if you wait 24hrs and quit believing every breaking news story, you'll find it's usually a totally different circumstance.
“Once through the gate, the victims advised the group that they were on a private street and trespassing and told them to leave,” the police summary further states. “The group began yelling obscenities and threats of harm to both victims. When the victims observed multiple subjects who were armed, they then armed themselves and contacted police.”
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So, the "victims" went outside, saw an armed mob, excused themselves, and while the mob politely waited, they went into the house grabbing their armaments (a semiautomatic?!) and returned to continue the discussion? And the mob just stood there waiting for them to return?

Why does this story sound a bit, er...
 
Watched another video.

Protestors were on the street and sidewalk but were never on the couple's property. Doesn't matter if it was a private street, they still were not on the homeowner's property.

Anyone who knows responsible gun ownership practices knows that you do not draw a gun until you intend to use it ...not brandish it as a threat and certainly don't aim without the intent to kill.

Aiming a gun at another person gives them the right to self-defense.


I have a gun and have taken a gun safety course. If caught in their situation, I would remain inside my home and shoot anyone who attempted to enter.
 
The husband was one can short of a six pack, pointing that AR-15 at his wife. A firearm's training course is in order for this couple.

NPtwELZS
 
Sunny said:
So, the "victims" went outside, saw an armed mob, excused themselves, and while the mob politely waited, they went into the house grabbing their armaments (a semiautomatic?!) and returned to continue the discussion? And the mob just stood there waiting for them to return?

Why does this story sound a bit, er...
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ROFLMAO!

If a story sounds a bit, er... then it probably is a bit, er.

Related to this story, I think it's full of a whole lot of, er.
 
Gemma said:
The husband was one can short of a six pack, pointing that AR-15 at his wife. A firearm's training course is in order for this couple.

NPtwELZS
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The couple IMO should be charged, fined, and stripped of their rights to ever own or possess a firearm again.
 
I reiterate what I said in a previous post/thread. I am so glad I live in the UK. Yes, we have protests and yes some are very violent and destructive but the idea of passing a law where we can own a gun for any other purpose than a sport/hobby eg. clay pigeon shooting horrifies me. However I do not rule out that one day that may happen. The world is in complete chaos and it seems that whether through a virus or conflict, domestic or otherwise we are on the slippery slope to the destruction of the human race. In the news today it stated that China researchers have found another flu type virus that has come from pigs and could be a pandemic. So choose your weapon world!!!!!!!!!
I like to finish on a cheery note and I've said this before, I prefer animals than people anyway, present company on the Forum excepted!!!!! ☺
 
According to the latest version of this story that I have seen, the mob was heading toward the mayor's house. They were angry because she had publicized the names and addresses of BLM supporters (which was a stupid and vicious thing to do, IMO.) I think they were trying to force her to resign.

So, how this couple fit into this at all beats me! The mob was marching past their house? And they claim they are supporters of Black Lives Matter? This story gets crazier by the minute!
 
This article doesn't mention where, in St. Louis, this incident took place. However, having been to that city many times, in the past, I am no longer going there. The Western suburbs are quite nice, and the core downtown area, around the Gateway Arch is pretty stable, but in between there are areas where I would Not want to have to stop to change a flat tire, in broad daylight. Anymore, St. Louis ranks way up there in the list of the most dangerous cities in the U.S. This couples actions were extreme, but given that cities decline, somewhat understandable.

IMO, these protests and riots are only going to harden peoples already fixed attitudes, and the longer this behavior lasts, the more the racial divisions will increase.
 
Sunny said:
According to the latest version of this story that I have seen, the mob was heading toward the mayor's house. They were angry because she had publicized the names and addresses of BLM supporters (which was a stupid and vicious thing to do, IMO.) I think they were trying to force her to resign.

So, how this couple fit into this at all beats me! The mob was marching past their house? And they claim they are supporters of Black Lives Matter? This story gets crazier by the minute!
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Oh, but wait, Sunny, they're both lawyers, so stay tuned for more... I suspect it's going to get a whole lot more crazier (and even more entertaining)!
 
Riots are riots. Duh! There are no orderly, polite, warm and fuzzy riots. Riots are an expression of social angst. People riot about anything. We've been rioting, since we fell out of the trees. And I doubt we will ever stop rioting. Riots are an open wound in a society. Those wounds can be either cured, or they can fester, and cause the death of a society. I can only hope we are smart enough to do what is needed to heal our present wounds.
 
AnnieA said:
Anyone can carry with a valid permit. I'm not at all denouncing the use of weapons by people on their own property; the protestors were not on the couple's property.

My point about self-defense is that the couple were AIMING their weapons at the protestors in the street. Aim a gun at someone and that person shoots thinking they're about to be shot ...that's self-defense.
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They [the protesters] had broken through community gates, and were on the sidewalk, which in many/most neighborhoods is part of the private property. Too me ! That's close enough, too close. Are they supposed to wait till they come through the door ?
 
Don M. said:
This article doesn't mention where, in St. Louis, this incident took place. However, having been to that city many times, in the past, I am no longer going there. The Western suburbs are quite nice, and the core downtown area, around the Gateway Arch is pretty stable, but in between there are areas where I would Not want to have to stop to change a flat tire, in broad daylight. Anymore, St. Louis ranks way up there in the list of the most dangerous cities in the U.S. This couples actions were extreme, but given that cities decline, somewhat understandable.

IMO, these protests and riots are only going to harden peoples already fixed attitudes, and the longer this behavior lasts, the more the racial divisions will increase.
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"
IMO, these protests and riots are only going to harden peoples already fixed attitudes, and the longer this behavior lasts, the more the racial divisions will increase."

I agree strongly here.
 
rgp said:
They [the protesters] had broken through community gates, and were on the sidewalk, which in many/most neighborhoods is part of the private property. Too me ! That's close enough, too close. Are they supposed to wait till they come through the door ?
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We own, and pay tax to the center of the road..... the 15 feet of right of way they are welcome to use... but if you stand in it and threaten
Well.... your technically on our land.... you advance...
I wont be hiding in a closet calling 911
 
Missouri castle doctrine statute.

A person has no duty to retreat:

  • From their dwelling, residence, or vehicle;
  • From their private property;
  • If the person is any other location where they have the right to be.
I‘d imagine brandishing a weapon is a misdemeanor. They both are personal injury lawyers, the husband has a lawsuit pending against police brutality.....maybe he had a reversal of opinion?
 
old medic said:
I beg to differ.... HUGE differences between SCARED and PREPARED....

the protestors were not on the couple's property
They BROKE down a gate and entered private property.... with all the dipshitted stuff these damn mobs have done across the country
These folks had every right in the world to stand their ground and defend their property
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That's the part of the story that is somehow missed. Making sure what they worked for is protected from a mob is reasonable given the videos of destruction of property for weeks now.
 
There was hardly any looting and rioting, it has overwhelmingly been peaceful protests, and those events you are outraged about happened in the beginning.
 
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