Two LA deputies shot , ambush style

jerry old said:
I must quote Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot: "Murder is a sign of a wounded soul."

I like the quote, but do not think it applies to the social climate were currently involved.

There are a lot of wounded souls in our nation, that does not mean killing another person is acceptable.

There is a division between murder and killing; I strongly support the police, but they need to
adjust their behavior.
We must decide are the cop killing a matter of their own safety or are they killing people.
I fear it involves both categories.
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I'm 100% convinced it encompasses both categories.
 

I appreciate your words, Jerry, and sadly, it is anger bubbling and boiling inside of me.

It just seems like it's one, after another, after another, after another these days, of innocent people being killed by police.

Just brings out the worst in me.
 

Aunt Marg said:
"That was a cowardly act," Sheriff Alex Villanueva said. "The two deputies were doing their job, minding their own business, watching out for the safety of the people on the train."

"To see somebody just walk up and start shooting on them. It p*$$es me off. It dismays me at the same time. There's no pretty way to say it."

Welcome to the real world, sheriff, villaneuva, the same world where innocent people die at the hands of cops, and that just so happens to p*$# me off, too!

And just like yourself sheriff, villaneuva, there is no pretty way to say it, other than for me to say it like it is!
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Difference being ..... had the street thugs not participated in a criminal activity in the first place ..... it's a pretty safe bet that they would not have died at the hands of police.
 
rgp said:
Difference being ..... had the street thugs not participated in a criminal activity in the first place ..... it's a pretty safe bet that they would not have died at the hands of police.
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Therein lies the problem.

Knowing the vast levels of corruption that plague police departments in general, the lies, the deceit, the law-makers siding with officers, I no longer have faith in the justice system or the word of the police.

I trust neither.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I appreciate your words, Jerry, and sadly, it is anger bubbling and boiling inside of me.

It just seems like it's one, after another, after another, after another these days, of innocent people being killed by police.

Just brings out the worst in me.
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If they were 'innocent' they wouldn't have encountered the police , in a manner that became so violent.
Aunt Marg said:
That's the problem, knowing the vast levels of corruption that plague police departments in general, the lies, the deceit, the law-makers siding with officers, I no longer have faith in the justice system or the word of the police.
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So in other words ..... when the police are called in relation to a crime taking place , or they encounter it on their own, you think they [the police] are lying ?

It's really simple ........ the police roll up on you, follow their commands , even though you know you are innocent. Talk it out at the cop shop, or in court. Then when you prove your innocence , and prove you were detained for no reason. Sue the crap out of them.........

But do not fight with them at the scene.
 
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I trust neither.
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No one lies ALL the time, except for you-know-who :unsure:.
Sometimes everyone even him, speaks the truth, like the Boy who cried "Wolf!" Listen to everyone without prejudice.
 
win231 said:
NO ONE in their right mind disapproves of an officer's actions in situations like that. Those are not the incidents that generate hatred for law enforcement.
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Well, then according to you, there are at least 100 morons supporting this dude. They attempted to takeover the PD and also wrecked the outside of the post office, which is Federal crime and if found guilty, the culprits could face up to 20 years each.
 
I have a loved one who goes out there every day, pins on his badge, straps on his firearm and gets in his patrol car, maybe to never return to his wife and two little girls. I'm not a praying person but I do send out a cry to the cosmos that this does not happen while he is out there risking his life to protect others.

I cannot even fathom the thought process behind someone who advocates across-the-board violence against police officers.
 
Keesha said:
It’s too bad topics like this just go around and around in circles. Cops killing people and people killing cops. It’s a vicious cycle that I don’t think will ever end. Cops lives matter. Everyone’s life matters.
People are nuts and getting worse. What a sin this entire war is.
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That pretty well sums it up. Cops on edge right now. They know they are walking around with a target on their back. It’s not a good time to be testing the waters for either side.
 
rgp said:
Difference being ..... had the street thugs not participated in a criminal activity in the first place ..... it's a pretty safe bet that they would not have died at the hands of police.
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rgp said:
Difference being ..... had the street thugs not participated in a criminal activity in the first place ..... it's a pretty safe bet that they would not have died at the hands of police.
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As we've seen, it sometimes depends what color they are.
 
rgp said:
If they were 'innocent' they wouldn't have encountered the police , in a manner that became so violent.



So in other words ..... when the police are called in relation to a crime taking place , or they encounter it on their own, you think they [the police] are lying ?

It's really simple ........ the police roll up on you, follow their commands , even though you know you are innocent. Talk it out at the cop shop, or in court. Then when you prove your innocence , and prove you were detained for no reason. Sue the crap out of them.........

But do not fight with them at the scene.
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How does one fight with the police once out of a vehicle with handcuffs slapped on them , their arms behind their back, then sat on with three police officers? One kneeling on their throat until they die, one sitting on their diaphragm and one sitting on their legs?

There is NO WAY in hell that you can turn this incident around for it to be ok! It’s NOT!

Sometimes cops turn into vigilantes and needlessly & carelessly take the law into their own hands when that is what court systems are for.
 
Keesha said:
How does one fight with the police once out of a vehicle with handcuffs slapped on them , their arms behind their back, then sat on with three police officers? One kneeling on their throat until they die, one sitting on their diaphragm and one sitting on their legs?

There is NO WAY in hell that you can turn this incident around for it to be ok! It’s NOT!

Sometimes cops turn into vigilantes and needlessly & carelessly take the law into their own hands when that is what court systems are for.
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I need not 'turn it around' ........ Had there been no criminal activity, there would have been no encounter with the police. When a crime is taking place, and the police are called/notice it, which ever ? They [the police] will handle it however they do..... frankly I don't care how that may be.

That alone should make those on the fine line ...... behave ?

"Sometimes cops turn into vigilantes and needlessly & carelessly take the law into their own hands when that is what court systems are for."

How can they take the law into their own hands ? They are the law , the legally appointed law enforcement agency.
 
rgp said:
It's really simple ........ the police roll up on you, follow their commands , even though you know you are innocent. Talk it out at the cop shop, or in court. Then when you prove your innocence , and prove you were detained for no reason. Sue the crap out of them.........

But do not fight with them at the scene.
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Amen!

I'm sure that I'll be accused of blaming the victims but non-compliance with police seems to be a common thread in many of these high profile deaths that is rarely mentioned as a contributing/escalating factor.
 
rgp said:
I need not 'turn it around' ........ Had there been no criminal activity, there would have been no encounter with the police. When a crime is taking place, and the police are called/notice it, which ever ? They [the police] will handle it however they do..... frankly I don't care how that may be.

That alone should make those on the fine line ...... behave ?

"Sometimes cops turn into vigilantes and needlessly & carelessly take the law into their own hands when that is what court systems are for."

How can they take the law into their own hands ? They are the law , the legally appointed law enforcement agency.
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What criminal activity are you referring to?
What crime took place?
What proof of the criminal activity is there?
The ONLY crime I saw taking place was someone getting murdered.

CLEARLY, you don’t care how the police handle it!
 


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