Do they dead greet the dying?

I've heard stories of people on their deathbeds indicating that a dead relatives were there in the room with them or that they were calling out to them as if they were there.
@raybar For a few years now, scientists have admitted that parallel universes are a real possibility. This article states evidence has been found by NASA scientists..
https://nypost.com/2020/05/19/nasa-...lel-universe-where-time-runs-backward-report/
 

Wishful thinking, folks. Saying you saw them in a dream is one thing, but saying that you know for a fact that they have really come back to visit you because you personally experienced it is, well, pretty dubious. Some dreams are very vivid, and feel absolutely real to us; our minds are good at playing tricks. Also, certain medications are known to have this effect at times.

Of course, feel free to believe what you like. Way too woo-woo for me! Just don't get all superior about the number of dimensions you think you live in. šŸ˜
 
I am of the belief that itā€™s scienceā€™s job to prove something false, rather than my job to prove something true. Perhaps the things we can't prove [yet] are just undiscovered sciences. How much does the unborn baby know of the world in which it is about to enter? There are far too many things we do not understand, yet we consider ourselves wise.
 

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OneEyedDiva said:
For a few years now, scientists have admitted that parallel universes are a real possibility. This article states evidence has been found by NASA scientists..
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Parallel universes may or may not exist. We don't know. But the New York Post article you linked, and the Daily Star article on which it is based, have misunderstood or misrepresented the studies they are reporting on. Here's the real story

Science Alert article:
https://www.sciencealert.com/of-course-nasa-did-not-detect-a-parallel-universe-in-antarctica

Live Science article:
https://www.livescience.com/truth-behind-nasa-mirror-parallel-universe.html
 
Gardenlover said:
I am of the belief that itā€™s scienceā€™s job to prove something false, rather than my job to prove something true. Perhaps the things we can't prove [yet] are just undiscovered sciences. How much does the unborn baby know of the world in which it is about to enter? There are far too many things we do not understand, yet we consider ourselves wise.
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Well, that's a novel approach, to say the least. The way I've always understood it, the burden of proof is always with the person who makes an assertion that something is true. The burden of non-proof doesn't rest with science.

So if I say I am really a unicorn, does that mean it has to be taken seriously, until some scientist proves that I am not a unicorn? And if I say that my snake oil potion, that I am selling at a bargain price, has a 100% cure rate against covid-19, that has to be considered true until "science" proves that it's a hoax? Should everybody buy and take the potion, because science hasn't gotten around to investigating it?

Leads to a pretty slippery slope, IMO.
 
Sunny said:
Well, that's a novel approach, to say the least. The way I've always understood it, the burden of proof is always with the person who makes an assertion that something is true. The burden of non-proof doesn't rest with science.

So if I say I am really a unicorn, does that mean it has to be taken seriously, until some scientist proves that I am not a unicorn? And if I say that my snake oil potion, that I am selling at a bargain price, has a 100% cure rate against covid-19, that has to be considered true until "science" proves that it's a hoax? Should everybody buy and take the potion, because science hasn't gotten around to investigating it?

Leads to a pretty slippery slope, IMO.
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Very good analogies...

However I still believe there's something that we know nothing of with regard to the human spirit ..and having lived through several small but significant occurrences with regard to dead or dying, I have yet to be convinced that there's nothing after death, in the same way we believe there was nothing before life ...
 
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@Sunny Let's take your example of snake oil. If you take it and it doesn't work, it is proven false. Simple enough, but until so, who is too say if it works or not?

I really enjoy a slippery slope from time to time.

I just believe that we haven't found any unicorn bones yet., they are probably in the layer below dinosaurs as they were a prime food choice of the larger beasts.
 
Sunny said:
Well, that's a novel approach, to say the least. The way I've always understood it, the burden of proof is always with the person who makes an assertion that something is true. The burden of non-proof doesn't rest with science.

So if I say I am really a unicorn, does that mean it has to be taken seriously, until some scientist proves that I am not a unicorn? And if I say that my snake oil potion, that I am selling at a bargain price, has a 100% cure rate against covid-19, that has to be considered true until "science" proves that it's a hoax? Should everybody buy and take the potion, because science hasn't gotten around to investigating it?

Leads to a pretty slippery slope, IMO.
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Sunny, does this mean you are really not a unicorn? I'm disappointed . . . .
 
When my Mom was in hospice, during the daytime wide awake and on no meds, she was looking at the upper wall and telling me she saw the most beautiful angels....she also saw her older deceased sister smiling at her with peace and comfort....I believed her....
there are so many true-to-life books and articles written by medical staff witnesses of near-death experiences of folks not on meds, and I don't believe they're hallucinating from the failing brain cells.....so yes, the dead do appear and speak to the dying, imo.....
 
In the case of sudden deaths does the brain recognize the body is seconds from death? Then does it simply give up or does the brain scramble to remain alive because life is all it has known? I doze off a few times during the day and the split second I slip in to the state of sleep I start dreaming. Even if I doze off for only a few seconds I still dream. That tells me the part of the brain that dreams may be dreaming constantly but we only know it when we sleep. So like the dream mode, does the brain run like a motor to keep the body functioning constantly or does it even understand death?
 
terry123 said:
I call it faith. I believe in an after life and know that I will be seeing my loved ones that have gone before me. I don't need any "proof". I just know it in my soul.
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It is faith and those like you simply have it. My very close friend is very deep in her faith. She talks about God and heaven like I talk about every day living. Her and I are very close and she accepts my beliefs as I accept hers. I can never accept the planet supports human life as a freak accident. I deeply believe this is a result of something but I cannot accept religion as the answer but I never say I am right. Like most folks I want to know the absolute answer but I know I never will so I just live and let live because that is the best answer I can come up with. :)
 
raybar said:
Parallel universes may or may not exist. We don't know. But the New York Post article you linked, and the Daily Star article on which it is based, have misunderstood or misrepresented the studies they are reporting on. Here's the real story

Science Alert article:
https://www.sciencealert.com/of-course-nasa-did-not-detect-a-parallel-universe-in-antarctica

Live Science article:
https://www.livescience.com/truth-behind-nasa-mirror-parallel-universe.html
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Interesting, clarifying articles Raybar..thank you for sharing. I did read another article a couple of years ago from a science publication but I would have no idea how to find it now or if it would fit into the category of misrepresenting the truth.
 
Gardenlover said:
I am of the belief that itā€™s scienceā€™s job to prove something false, rather than my job to prove something true. Perhaps the things we can't prove [yet] are just undiscovered sciences. How much does the unborn baby know of the world in which it is about to enter? There are far too many things we do not understand, yet we consider ourselves wise.
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I agree GL. Imagine what was considered impossible 200 years ago or even 100 years ago that have been created and we are doing now.
 
What makes me a true believer that you can have contact with someone who has passed is because what happened to me a few months after my Dad passed away. When he was on his deathbed my niece was screaming "God if you let my Grandpop live I will never ask for a baby again." I pulled her off my Dad and said "Poppy would never want you to give up hope for a baby."

Well, a few months later my Dad came to me in a dream. He told me to tell my niece a nice little boy was coming her way. He said tell her I said 313. In the dream, my Dad was visiting my cousin who was in the hospital. My Dad said to me "Don't worry because I am here with Jimmy." He said Jimmy was going to be alright.

A few months later my nephew was in a store he went to every day. He asked why a woman that worked there wasn't working that day. They told him the woman was expecting a baby and had to give the baby up for adoption. He said, "Oh my sister will adopt the baby." After he said it he was shocked because his sister never mentioned adoption. When they told the woman she said she would let my niece adopt the baby. Then my Husband got my niece a lawyer and when the baby was born it was a boy.

Strangely the adoption took place on my cousin Jimmy's birthday, the courtroom was 313 and the lawyer couldn't make it so he sent his partner to be at the adoption. It was strange because the lawyer's brother was the Priest that said my Dad's funeral mass. Since that day I have always believed we could be visited by our loved ones after they've passed.
 
Sassycakes said:
What makes me a true believer that you can have contact with someone who has passed is because what happened to me a few months after my Dad passed away. When he was on his deathbed my niece was screaming "God if you let my Grandpop live I will never ask for a baby again." I pulled her off my Dad and said "Poppy would never want you to give up hope for a baby."

Well, a few months later my Dad came to me in a dream. He told me to tell my niece a nice little boy was coming her way. He said tell her I said 313. In the dream, my Dad was visiting my cousin who was in the hospital. My Dad said to me "Don't worry because I am here with Jimmy." He said Jimmy was going to be alright.

A few months later my nephew was in a store he went to every day. He asked why a woman that worked there wasn't working that day. They told him the woman was expecting a baby and had to give the baby up for adoption. He said, "Oh my sister will adopt the baby." After he said it he was shocked because his sister never mentioned adoption. When they told the woman she said she would let my niece adopt the baby. Then my Husband got my niece a lawyer and when the baby was born it was a boy.

Strangely the adoption took place on my cousin Jimmy's birthday, the courtroom was 313 and the lawyer couldn't make it so he sent his partner to be at the adoption. It was strange because the lawyer's brother was the Priest that said my Dad's funeral mass. Since that day I have always believed we could be visited by our loved ones after they've passed.
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This all happened @Sassycakes cuz everything in the universe is connected by energy, whether in physical form or spiritual form.
 
I had some interesting conversations with my husband in the days before he died. I am not sure he "saw" dead family members, but he talked often of a close friend who died several years ago, and mentioned dreaming of her.
A slight, OT, I think he suspected he would not survive as he often told a couple friends to look after me. And in a last conversation with a nurse he told her to thank everyone for all the care he was receiving at the nursing home.
He also, in the last day or two spoke of having had a dream that the world was coming to an end...the population was dying out
 
I certainly hope there is an afterlife and that my mom and dad will be there to greet me. Working years in a nursing home I saw many people die and sadly I didn't see any indication that they were greeted by loved ones.
That doesn't stop me from hoping though. Many times I have such vivid dreams of them and when they call my name it's so real that I wake up and answer them.
My mom would tell me that my grandma had vivid dreams of her loved ones during the last years of her life. Could it be that they are preparing the way? I hope so.
 

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