Are you listening to the news? Officer Wilson Not Indicted in Brown Shooting

nwlady said:
Our country has come a long way, and much more equal opportunity then we did have.
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From the article

Among the “childish things” we need to put aside, white people, is the idea that America’s tormented racial legacy belongs to the past. You know exactly the attitude I mean: We have twice elected a biracial president and LeBron James and Jay Z are zillionaires, so no more talk of racism, please. In the more paranoid formulation prevalent in the Fox News demographic (but not limited to it), this becomes the idea that the federal government has spent the last 50 years giving away money, housing, education and other “free stuff” to black people who don’t work or pay taxes, while vigorously grinding down the white man. So either the vision of healing and reconciliation conjured up so eloquently by Martin Luther King, Jr. more than 50 years ago has now been fulfilled (and black people need to stop complaining), or America is being not so slowly turned into a gay-Muslim-socialist totalitarian state where every day is Kwanzaa. Both scenarios come up against the nettlesome fact that African-Americans stubbornly persist in being poor, living in disadvantaged circumstances, getting shot by the police for no particular reason and going to prison in large numbers.
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http://www.salon.com/2014/08/23/white_privilege_an_insidious_virus_thats_eating_america_from_within/
 

Ina said:
I agree, now the president is talkihg about moving forward. :wave:
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Sorry but if it wasnt for a black kid ,he would never appeared on TV.

There are black kids killed and murdered everyday,anybody care`about those but does Obama come on TV?
 
Davey Jones said:
Sorry but if it wasnt for a black kid ,he would never appeared on TV.

There are black kids killed and murdered everyday,anybody care`about those but does Obama come on TV?
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So you want him on TV for every black person killed? This is kind of a high profile situation and I think it can encompass the larger problem..
 

In the US we have blacks, native Americans, whites, in just about everything you can think of. Hard at work to improve their lives, the communities, the schools, the governments. Big idea is to get off your butts, stop crying about others doing better, and do something about that for yourself. We have had native Americans become Senators in our US government.

We have plenty of blacks that have done quite well. Obama for one in today's time. Go back into Bush's days and we had a black lady in high level positions, we also had a black man in high level positions. We have millionaire's in business efforts that are blacks that started the business and drove it into big success.

Those that really do wish success for themselves and family can not do it by just sitting around bitching about how others are doing well and they are stuck in a poor situation. They must do more than fail to go to school and learn things or become drug dependent or drunks or selling drugs or stealing cars or whatever that is illegal. There future will be that of having much of their lives wasted in jails or in early deaths.

I don't have much pity for whites or blacks that end up in jail for not following the laws. Many who came out of our poor class areas worked their way towards the successful ones. Some made it big and some only got better than they had seen. Those that do not try end up in the trash area they have earned for themselves, jail, or early death.
 
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Davey Jones said:
There are black kids killed and murdered everyday,anybody care`about those but does Obama come on TV?
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There is no question that there are a lot of shootings and murders of blacks all the time, most are done by the criminals in the streets, or gang-related. I believe that most of those killers are sent to trial and put in jail for their crimes. When someone in power and authority commits the murder, for no apparent good reason, then yes, it does gain national recognition on the media. We are supposed to have some fear for our safety from the criminal element, but over the years, it seems we also have to fear those in power, like the police.

If I ever get stopped for a traffic violation, you better believe that I will not make any sudden moves, keep my hands in full sight at all times, and do exactly as I am instructed. Years ago, I would have cooperated just out of respect for the officer, these days I would cooperate to avoid getting senselessly tased, beaten or shot by some trigger happy individual, sometimes cooperation isn't enough. I'll repeat, I'm not saying all cops are like this, but there are enough for all of us to be painfully aware of, regardless of our color.
 
These rioters were well prepared to create havoc...no matter which way the grand jury verdict came down. You don't set buildings and cars on fire with a cigarette lighter...it takes containers of flammable liquids and some careful planning to achieve the damage done to Ferguson last night. While the bulk of the protesters kept the police occupied, a few of the Terrorists sneaked in behind the cops, and quickly ignited their homemade firebombs. This was not a sudden impulse action...rather it was a well rehearsed plan.

All they will have accomplished, in the end, is destroying a largely Black neighborhood, and hardening racial attitudes even further.
 
SeaBreeze said:
There is no question that there are a lot of shootings and murders of blacks all the time, most are done by the criminals in the streets, or gang-related. I believe that most of those killers are sent to trial and put in jail for their crimes. When someone in power and authority commits the murder, for no apparent good reason, then yes, it does gain national recognition on the media. We are supposed to have some fear for our safety from the criminal element, but over the years, it seems we also have to fear those in power, like the police.

If I ever get stopped for a traffic violation, you better believe that I will not make any sudden moves, keep my hands in full sight at all times, and do exactly as I am instructed. Years ago, I would have cooperated just out of respect for the officer, these days I would cooperate to avoid getting senselessly tased, beaten or shot by some trigger happy individual, sometimes cooperation isn't enough. I'll repeat, I'm not saying all cops are like this, but there are enough for all of us to be painfully aware of, regardless of our color.
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I agree with you Seabreeze.. I am leary of cops now.. I woundn't put anything past them. I have a disabled adult son who is sometimes "difficult". I would never call police to help. They would shoot him dead I am certain of it. Don't trust a single one of them. They are just a little too trigger happy. Instead of serving and protecting, they all want to play Rambo.
 
I wouldn't have been hesitant 20 years ago, but something has happened to police. They have become quasi-military and unpredictable. No more image of the friendly cop on the beat.. Now they are driving armoured tanks and carrying assault weapons.. Boys with toys want to use them... right?
 
QuickSilver said:
I wouldn't have been hesitant 20 years ago, but something has happened to police. They have become quasi-military and unpredictable. No more image of the friendly cop on the beat.. Now they are driving armoured tanks and carrying assault weapons.. Boys with toys want to use them... right?
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Since the Iraq war began to wind down, the Pentagon has been giving surplus military vehicles to local police departments....in the Name of "combating terrorism". As a result, when there is Any kind of disturbance, the police are likely to show up in armored vehicles, wearing heavy body armor, and carrying surplus automatic rifles. This "Macho" image has to effect the thinking and actions of some of those carrying a badge.
 
I know what you mean, there used to be cops patrolling the neighborhood on foot when I was young and living in the city. They were very friendly, and didn't look for trouble, we always talked to them and felt very comfortable...no more of that!
 
SeaBreeze said:
I know what you mean, there used to be cops patrolling the neighborhood on foot when I was young and living in the city. They were very friendly, and didn't look for trouble, we always talked to them and felt very comfortable...no more of that!
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I remember my parents telling me that if ever I were lost or afraid to be sure to go to the nearest policeman and ask for help. What parents are so eager to give that advise these days... especially Black parents.
 
As I remember from news casts that some, if not many, of the police there were blacks. Do they also scare you so badly.

I think there is too much scare talk about the police these days. One thing for sure is that they do have to be prepared to defend themselves with so many drug doped folks to try to control.
 
I've NEVER had a problem with law enforcement! I've shown them respect by saying "yes Sir" and "no Sir" with no problems. I think it's more of people giving them problems and disrespecting them than what they do to the public. I have noticed that they aren't nearly as "talkative" to the public as they once were, but then again, they don't know who they are talking to either.

The officer that lives in our apartment complex asked me to jump-start his patrol car (in the complex) when the battery went dead. I had no problem pulling our Dodge Ram over next to his patrol car and giving him a jump. Patrol car stated right up, he said "thanks", I said "you're welcome" and that was it. I did meet him, and his son, at a complex party in the clubhouse. Very nice officer!
 
Funny, a Congress Woman on CNN said that Brown was just getting ready to attend college.......yea, right (sarcastically saying that). The teen had just robbed a liquor store. He wasn't heading to college, he was heading to jail!
 
ClassicRockr said:
Funny, a Congress Woman on CNN said that Brown was just getting ready to attend college.......yea, right (sarcastically saying that). The teen had just robbed a liquor store. He wasn't heading to college, he was heading to jail!
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How can you make a statement like that? How do you know? OR are you just giving in to your preconceived stereotypes and prejudices? Your statemet reeks of bigotry.
 
I never said that I "disliked" the dude! Other than that, I have no idea what you are talking about in your reply here. But, we all have to watch it, because the Administrator would let any of us know that we can't talk others on the forum like this (below).

QuickSilver said:
How can you make a statement like that? How do you know? OR are you just giving in to your preconceived stereotypes and prejudices? Your statemet reeks of bigotry.
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This is an important topic, that needs light, not heat shed on it. I have enjoyed following the discussion and would feel bad if it were closed by the Moderator.
 
ClassicRockr said:
I never said that I "disliked" the dude! Other than that, I have no idea what you are talking about in your reply here. But, we all have to watch it, because the Administrator would let any of us know that we can't talk others on the forum like this (below).
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My apology... I misread your post.
 
QuickSilver said:
How can you make a statement like that? How do you know? OR are you just giving in to your preconceived stereotypes and prejudices? Your statemet reeks of bigotry.
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The act of the teen robbing a store was filmed by the store camera and has been shown on TV more than once. He not only stole, he also pushed and slapped around the clerk that tried to stop him. Being a teen does not make one a peaceful and kind person. He was not such. Maybe that is why the policeman had tried to stop him.
 
ClassicRockr said:
I never said that I "disliked" the dude! Other than that, I have no idea what you are talking about in your reply here. But, we all have to watch it, because the Administrator would let any of us know that we can't talk others on the forum like this (below).
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Yes, I'm in agreement CR, I recently read the rules again myself, and there are not to be any personal attacks or name calling.
 
BobF said:
The act of the teen robbing a store was filmed by the store camera and has been shown on TV more than once. He not only stole, he also pushed and slapped around the clerk that tried to stop him. Being a teen does not make one a peaceful and kind person. He was not such. Maybe that is why the policeman had tried to stop him.
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I really don't believe it would have went any different if the teen had been white either.
 

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