Remember, there is no FDA approved vaccine

All 3 have been approved!
Please post a link that shows the FDA has approved these vaccines. Actually approved, not listed as Emergency Use Authorization. That is a completely different category.
The fastest FDA approval was 1967. It was for mumps and that was after a 4 year study.
 

Nothing misleading. Your reading comprehension just needs work. There is NO FDA approved vaccine. I said that from the start.
3rd and 4th line...
As of March 1 2021, there is still only EUA ( Emergency Use Authorization) authorization for 2 vaccines. (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna)
The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine.Mar 1, 2021

Do your homework.... and EAU is not an FDA approved authorization.
The FDA has approved it's use. You do your homework.
 

All 3 have been approved!
Are COVID-19 vaccines fully approved by the FDA for use?
Vaccines for COVID-19 will start out being used under an Emergency
None are FDA approved.


"Use Authorization (EUA) by the FDA. An EUA makes the vaccine available for public health emergencies. It means that the vaccine is available outside of a research study but is not yet approved. This is the usual first step for a new vaccine. The vaccine can continue to be used as long as people benefit from it. The research continues as it moves toward full approval."

COVID-19 Vaccines Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)​

www.pennmedicine.org › vaccine › vaccine-faqs
 
The FDA has approved it's use. You do your homework.
It has only been approved for Use Authorization (EUA). It is not FDA approved. Do your homework.

What is an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)?​

An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. Taking into consideration input from the FDA, manufacturers decide whether and when to submit an EUA request to FDA.

Once submitted, FDA will evaluate an EUA request and determine whether the relevant statutory criteria are met, taking into account the totality of the scientific evidence about the vaccine that is available to FDA.

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained
 
Thanks for this information. It sounds like a treatment after you get Covid to prevent it from getting worse. Is that what it is? It is probably ok if you get Covid so you hopefully won't die but I would rather not get Covid in the first place. Reading the article, it sounds like they have to start this treatment early or it won't work. Also it is approved for EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION by the FDA so I guess a lot of people would decline it even if they got Covid.
 
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What are my alternatives? If I go unvaccinated I risk death from COVID & it's a very hard death. I had to choose between a possible reaction that could've been treated or not...or COVID. I chose the vaccine. I don't want to become another victim of COVID. If that makes me an experiment that can help others later on then so be it.

Personally I think all this tit for tat on this forum about vaxxers & non vaxxers...maskers & anti maskers seriously needs to stop. You make your bed...you lie in it with your decisions. I'm not mad...this is nothing personal against anyone here. Just sick of it. It's bad enough we have to deal with all this COVID crap...fighting on a forum and making snarky remarks to one another isn't going to help. I think everyone needs to take a frickin chill pill and go to their separate corners for a while and give each other a break. JMO
Thank you. You said it perfectly.
 
Of course people who do not want the vaccine keep trying to pressure others into not getting it. Otherwise why keep bring it up? Why keep talking about unknown long term side effects to people who do not have long term lives left? It’s not like we are 16. 😂
I don't think they bring up negative side effects or risks to convince anyone not to get the vaccine; they're simply sharing information that others can take or leave as they choose.
What actually happens often is: people who do not want the vaccine are asked why they don't want it. Their explanation is misinterpreted as "Trying to convince others not to get it."
People want to believe the vaccine is safe & it works & that it will save our economy & save the world & "Get everything back to normal." When someone shares information that it may not be safe or it may not work, it shakes the confidence of what people want to believe.

Similar situation: I shared information on another forum about the "Wounded Warrior Project" being a scam - only a few pennies of each dollar donated are used to benefit veterans. Several people who donated became very angry; the information spoiled their warm & fuzzy feeling about helping injured veterans. They didn't want to know they were only helping scam artists & thieves.
 
my neighbor got the vaccine.....
The only side effect I have seen so far is her inability to stop talking about getting the vaccine.
Aren't some women like that anyway?

Scared emoticon Hiding behind couch
 
So far, worldwide deaths from Covid = Approximately 2.66 million

So far, worldwide deaths from the vaccine = 0

This does not exactly sound like a hard decision to make.
That's not entirely true. People who were previously healthy have died shortly after being vaccinated. If you say they had a preexisting condition that contributed to their deaths, ok it's a possibility. But ditto for all those covid patients who died.

It's NOT an easy decision to make. I would never try to scare someone out of getting this vaccine if they want it. I would appreciate the same courtesy extended to me about not wanting to be vaccinated at this time. I am perfectly healthy at this moment and have St. Patrick's Day celebration plans which sudden death would seriously interrupt. 🤗 That's all. No right, no wrong. Just opinions which we should all be mature enough to share without hatred.
 
So far, worldwide deaths from Covid = Approximately 2.66 million

So far, worldwide deaths from the vaccine = 0

This does not exactly sound like a hard decision to make.
That's just wrong.

You really should not post fabricated statements just to justify your agenda.

I personally know of people that died from the vaccine.
 
I don't think they bring up negative side effects or risks to convince anyone not to get the vaccine; they're simply sharing information that others can take or leave as they choose.
What actually happens often is: people who do not want the vaccine are asked why they don't want it. Their explanation is misinterpreted as "Trying to convince others not to get it."
People want to believe the vaccine is safe & it works & that it will save our economy & save the world & "Get everything back to normal." When someone shares information that it may not be safe or it may not work, it shakes the confidence of what people want to believe.

Similar situation: I shared information on another forum about the "Wounded Warrior Project" being a scam - only a few pennies of each dollar donated are used to benefit veterans. Several people who donated became very angry; the information spoiled their warm & fuzzy feeling about helping injured veterans. They didn't want to know they were only helping scam artists & thieves.
Well this is the same with most major charities the more donations made the more the employees make, but even though only pennies are donated, pennies add up so people can still feel warm and fuzzy. 😁

Why you feel the need to frequently bring up the negative side of issues is beyond me. The vaccine is all we have to “fight“ the virus besides masks and prayer. By using all three we might make it to at least partial herd immunity, or at least individual immunity.

Personally I use all three. I don’t have the virus yet and hopefully will never get it. I am resuming my life to a limited degree and dined in at the Olive Garden yesterday at lunch. It was a great meal. I am not going to hide in my house forever.
 
I have seen some side evidence of side affects in stories on the news and online (primarily blood clots that seem related to some vaccines) but they appear to be relatively rare; I have seen stories about people that have died after getting the shot(s) but do not know if their deaths can be directly attributed to the vaccine (because the poor journalism is designed, apparently, to promote panic).
People have adverse reactions to many approved vaccines and inoculations as well ad drugs (nothing is 100% safe).
I will take my chances and get my second Moderna jab, as scheduled, at the end of the month; in the interest of preserving my health and as a contribution to public health.

Enjoy!
 
Good grief, is there no end to all these threads about the COVID vaccine? Either get it or don't.


Where there is no end, is in folks trying to convince others that their way is the the only way ....... and we all must conform to their way. Because after all they know what is best for us. And if we choose a different way ? Of course we are wrong...........:rolleyes:
 
Where there is no end, is in folks trying to convince others that their way is the the only way ....... and we all must conform to their way. Because after all they know what is best for us. And if we choose a different way ? Of course we are wrong...........:rolleyes:
Gee, I agree with you 😂, who is more surprised you or me? 😃
 
I myself will not be used as a lab rat. Will wait to see what if any side affects are showing in the future.
People, do your homework .

As of March 1 2021, there is still only EUA ( Emergency Use Authorization) authorization for 2 vaccines. (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna)
The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine.Mar 1, 2021

From the WHO website... The proper road to a safe vaccine.........
"Small (phase I) safety studies of COVID-19 vaccines should enroll healthy adult volunteers. Larger (phase II and III) studies should include volunteers that reflect the populations for whom the vaccines are intended. This means enrolling people from diverse geographic areas, racial and ethnic backgrounds, genders, and ages, as well as those with underlying health conditions that put them at higher risk for COVID-19. Including these groups in clinical trials is the only way to make sure that a vaccine will be safe and effective for everyone who needs it".

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-d...5t6fxduXNYgmNCLFUPr5o4yXZK8kJP7dNIvQtNCW2aq9w

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Very true SDog
We are not having this poison inserted into our bodies......
So many reactions to the vaccine, which I cant afford to get,
And so many .....what Ifs ........Maybes......and Dont Knows...........
 
That's just wrong.

You really should not post fabricated statements just to justify your agenda.

I personally know of people that died from the vaccine.
Please do not accuse me of fabricating statements, just because you don't like them. I got my information from Dr. Gupta on TV yesterday, who cited that information in his desperate plea for all Americans who are eligible to get the vaccine ASAP. As he and Dr. Fauci are probably the top medical experts in the country on this subject, I tend to give more credence to what he says than to the people that you "personally know."
 
I wonder if they have any idea how long the antibodies last, in the people who got them by actually having the illness, as opposed to the antibodies produced by the vaccine? In other words, iwill either of them (or both of them) confer immunity forever?

I imagine it's too soon to know.
 
I wonder if they have any idea how long the antibodies last, in the people who got them by actually having the illness, as opposed to the antibodies produced by the vaccine? In other words, iwill either of them (or both of them) confer immunity forever?

I imagine it's too soon to know.
They have no ideal how long so I am taking advantage as much as I can while I still supposedly have them
 
This explains why Covid vaccine related deaths are not reported.
Only anaphylaxis can be reported as cause of deaths.

And of course the Chief Medical examiner's statement is just a little blurb at the end of the article. 🙄

"Dr. Erik Christensen, Utah’s chief medical examiner, said proving vaccine injury as a cause of death is “very hard to demonstrate.” An official autopsy report can only report vaccine as the cause of a death if the patient had suffered from an immediate case of anaphylaxis."

https://www.ibtimes.com/utah-woman-...id-19-vaccine-she-got-sick-right-away-3159944
 
I wonder if they have any idea how long the antibodies last, in the people who got them by actually having the illness, as opposed to the antibodies produced by the vaccine? In other words, will either of them (or both of them) confer immunity forever?

I imagine it's too soon to know
Rita Wilson has participated in a UCLA study since being infected. She reported that at 11 months after having Covid her antibodies were gone.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...dies-11-months-after-getting-sick/ar-BB1bBHMf
 
Well this is the same with most major charities the more donations made the more the employees make, but even though only pennies are donated, pennies add up so people can still feel warm and fuzzy. 😁

Why you feel the need to frequently bring up the negative side of issues is beyond me. The vaccine is all we have to “fight“ the virus besides masks and prayer. By using all three we might make it to at least partial herd immunity, or at least individual immunity.

Personally I use all three. I don’t have the virus yet and hopefully will never get it. I am resuming my life to a limited degree and dined in at the Olive Garden yesterday at lunch. It was a great meal. I am not going to hide in my house forever.
Bringing up the truth is also interpreted as being "Negative;" The truth is usually negative.
 


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