Does anyone else feel something is missing when it comes to Covid/Covid Vaccine??

chic said:
I wonder if this was a biological warfare weapon/virus being manufactured in that lab in Wuhan? You can't believe the future of warfare will be aircraft dropping bombs and armies with guns shooting each other over a few miles of ground to capture when this is so much more effective. You force an entire country to surrender completely in days.

At first I believed what I was told about this virus. Anyone who didn't was labeled an imbecile, an idiot, a murderer, a conspiracy theorist. Now, my allegiance has flipped to the other side.

If I suddenly disappear, you'll know I was right and the CIA had to kill me for figuring it out. :giggle:
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When we were children there were the basic illnesses...measles, chicken pox, etc. You caught them, you recovered and that was the end of it unless the illness caused lasting damage as with polio.
In the last few years though, there have been new viruses which stay in the system and keep causing fresh bouts. I wonder how this has come about?
You mention biological warfare and you're quite right. Our governments seem to be complacent about this, just as they were with the possibility of a pandemic. Instead of firing guns, terrorists could very easily be armed with biological 'bombs'. Are our laboratories working on an anti-viral weapon? Or are they closing their minds to the need for such a thing?
 
Rosemarie said:
When we were children there were the basic illnesses...measles, chicken pox, etc. You caught them, you recovered and that was the end of it unless the illness caused lasting damage as with polio.
In the last few years though, there have been new viruses which stay in the system and keep causing fresh bouts. I wonder how this has come about?
You mention biological warfare and you're quite right. Our governments seem to be complacent about this, just as they were with the possibility of a pandemic. Instead of firing guns, terrorists could very easily be armed with biological 'bombs'. Are our laboratories working on an anti-viral weapon? Or are they closing their minds to the need for such a thing?
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Yes our labs are
 
Aneeda72 said:
Yes our labs are
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U.S. Biowarfare Programs Have 13,000 Death Scientists Hard At Work​

Wednesday, 26 February 2020, 12:53 pm

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2...-have-13000-death-scientists-hard-at-work.htm

US shuts down its biological warfare lab​

The shutdown of army’s Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases raised eyebrows after the spreading of Corona Virus allegations between China and USA. But its authorities state otherwise.

The shutdown of army’s Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases raised eyebrows after the spreading of Corona Virus allegations between China and USA. But its authorities state otherwise.
ByNews Desk

17 March 2020
https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php...com/us-shuts-down-its-biological-warfare-lab/
America’s main biological warfare lab has been ordered to stop all research into the deadliest viruses and pathogens over fears contaminated waste could leak out of the facility.

Fort Detrick, in Maryland, has been the epicentre of the US Army’s bioweapons research since the beginning of the Cold War.

But last month the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) – the government’s public health body – stripped the base of its license to handle highly restricted “select agents”, which includes Ebola, smallpox and anthrax.

The unusual move follows an inspection by the CDC at Fort Detrick which found several problems with new procedures used to decontaminate waste water.

For years the facility used a steam sterilisation plant to treat waste water, but after a storm flooded and ruined that machinery last year, Fort Detrick switched to a new chemical-based decontamination system.

But the CDC inspectors found the new procedures were not sufficient, with both mechanical failures causing leaks and researchers failing to properly follow the rules.

As a result, the organisation sent a “cease and desist” order to Fort Detrick, forcing it to suspend all research on select agents.

Although the United States officially abandoned its biological weapons programme in 1969, Fort Detrick has continued defensive research into deadly pathogens on the list of “select agents”, including the Ebola virus, the organisms that cause the plague, and the highly toxic poison ricin.


The army’s Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, based at Fort Detrick, says its primary mission today is to “protect the warfighter from biological threats” but its scientists also investigate outbreaks of disease among civilians and other threats to public health.

In recent years it has been involved in testing possible vaccines for Ebola, after several epidemics of the deadly virus in Africa.


A spokeswoman for the lab, Caree Vander Linden, said despite the CDC suspension order, there had not been any threat to public health or any leaks of hazardous material outside the base.

The shutdown of research at Fort Detrick is likely to last several months, she also told the New York Times.

This is not the first time the lab has been temporarily shut down due to failures in handling the dangerous pathogens inside.

In 2009, research at Fort Detrick was suspended because it was discovered it was storing pathogens which were not listed on its inventory.

The regulations on keeping close track of hazardous biological material were tightened after the 2001 anthrax attacks, which saw five people die after spores were posted to several media newsrooms and Democratic senators.

The FBI’s chief suspect in the 2001 case, Bruce Ivins, was a senior biological weapons researcher at Fort Detrick. He killed himself in 2008, shortly before the FBI was planning to charge him with the attacks.

https://www.globalvillagespace.com/us-shuts-down-its-biological-warfare-lab/
 
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win231 said:
I also feel there are many pieces of the puzzle missing. I'm not so sure about truth prevailing at any time.
As for treating Covid patients, I'm surprised that people aren't thinking, "Hmmmm, where are all these "550,000" Covid patients dying? They're dying in hospitals - surrounded by doctors & nurses.
So.......the people who are pushing the vaccine on us are the same people who can't save so many Covid patients.
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Win, they've been doing the best they possibly can. For a while, some ICUs were short on ventilators, and even when they had plenty of them, you simply can't get air into a set of lungs that are packed with fluid, mechanically or otherwise. That was the circumstance in most cases. In others, the organs started shutting down too rapidly to keep up. People went downhill so quick and so severely, all efforts were futile. Doctors and nurses weren't standing around with their thumbs up their asses watching patients die, they were working like hell to keep them alive.
 
Murrmurr said:
Win, they've been doing the best they possibly can. For a while, some ICUs were short on ventilators, and even when they had plenty of them, you simply can't get air into a set of lungs that are packed with fluid, mechanically or otherwise. That was the circumstance in most cases. In others, the organs started shutting down too rapidly to keep up. People went downhill so quick and so severely, all efforts were futile. Doctors and nurses weren't standing around with their thumbs up their asses watching patients die, they were working like hell to keep them alive.
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^^^ Gross misinterpretation.
I'm not blaming doctors for not being able to cure Covid or prevent any deaths with any other disease. It's not their fault. Anyone knows doctors can't save everyone's life; if they could, no one would ever die of anything.....duh.
I'm saying there is much doctors don't know about Covid (as with many other diseases). So anyone who makes their own health decisions to get a vaccine or not get a vaccine should not be criticized for their decision.
Anyone who criticizes or judges others who don't make the same decisions they make is a fool.
 
Becky1951 said:
The topic post isn't saying non belief of Covid deaths.

That's the problem with replies, not understanding the content of the post.

Anyone having doubts or concerns regarding the vaccine or questions about treatment and bam!!! The poster is accused of not believing Covid is serious. Or accused of being a conspiracy nut. Or paranoid.

It's a shame that a few members are hesitant to voice their concerns due to quickly being labeled paranoid, conspiracy nut, non believer, anti vaxer, etc. 😥
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I think it's the only way some people can feel good about themselves.
 
I think some people are trying to point out the reality that the vaccine is not the panacea some others think it is. What is hoped by professionals is that it will blunt or, at best, defang the virus. No other flu vaccine has succeeded in eradicating any particular type of influenza and you shouldn't expect this to be any different. We hope it will be, but don't expect it. Also, basic tenets of our individual liberty suggest that each individual reserves the right to dictate what is or is not shot into his or her body. Disagree with that tenet and promote the opposite at your peril. Study your history and you might get the idea that some folks are looking more and more like Nazi Germany every day (e.g., forced vaccinations, travel papers and societal type restrictions, etc.

Personally, I an mot afraid of people who aren't vaccinated and don't wear a mask. The thought of being otherwise reminds me of bad times past.
 
Gaer said:
Does anyone know the ingredients of the vaccines ?
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a toad, a slice of swamp snake, a newt’s eye, a frog’s tongue, a bat’s fur, a dog’s tongue, a black snake’s forked tongue, a burrowing worm’s stinger, a lizard’s leg, an owl’s wing, a scale of dragon, a wolf’s tooth, a witch’s mummified flesh, the gullet and stomach of a ravenous shark, a root of hemlock (a very poisonous plant) that was dug up in the dark, a liver of Christian that is not baptized, a goat’s bile, slips of pine trees, a Turk’s nose, a Tartar’s lips, finger of a baby that was born dead by a prostitute, a tiger’s gut and a baboon’s blood.
 
SetWave said:
a toad, a slice of swamp snake, a newt’s eye, a frog’s tongue, a bat’s fur, a dog’s tongue, a black snake’s forked tongue, a burrowing worm’s stinger, a lizard’s leg, an owl’s wing, a scale of dragon, a wolf’s tooth, a witch’s mummified flesh, the gullet and stomach of a ravenous shark, a root of hemlock (a very poisonous plant) that was dug up in the dark, a liver of Christian that is not baptized, a goat’s bile, slips of pine trees, a Turk’s nose, a Tartar’s lips, finger of a baby that was born dead by a prostitute, a tiger’s gut and a baboon’s blood.
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Good one!
 
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Soooo...people want to know the ingredients of the vaccine. My question to them is: Even if you are given the ingredients, will you have a clue as to what they mean.? How many of you are compounding pharmacists!
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Dana said:
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Soooo...people want to know the ingredients of the vaccine. My question to them is: Even if you are given the ingredients, will you have a clue as to what they mean.? How many of you are compounding pharmacists!
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People are looking for known allergies for themselves
 
Ladybj said:
Why don't they come up with some type of med to help people that has contacted the virus that end up in the hospital?? Taking the vaccine is like putting a bandage on your finger just in case you get a sore.
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They are working on treatments for Covid. Hopefully, something like a single shot in the doctor's office or an Rx for pills that will knock out the virus.

The vaccine is NOT like putting a bandage on your finger in case you get a sore. Think of polio. Is that like a sore? I don't think so. As I write this a friend has his 30-something son in a hospital on a ventilator because he got Covid deep into his lungs. In about a month he would have had his first vaccine shot and probably had enough immunity to shake it off without the need for hospitalization. Sadly, he is among those who missed it by just a few weeks. Thankfully, he is responding well to the treatments and may be off the ventilator in a few days.
 
I’m no compounding pharmacist but that doesn’t stop me from inquiring in case anyone knows and thankfully somebody did.

I don’t think asking such a question hurts anyone else. Maybe others would like to know also.
No biggie.

I’m a nutritionist by trade who happens to have allergies to certain substances.
 
Keesha said:
I’m no compounding pharmacist but that doesn’t stop me from inquiring in case anyone knows and thankfully somebody did.

I don’t think asking such a question hurts anyone else. Maybe others would like to know also.
No biggie.

I’m a nutritionist by trade who happens to have allergies to certain substances.
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Knowing the ingredients is not enough...you have to know how they interact with other medications you are taking and also, how they might affect any underlying medical conditions you already have.
 
chic said:
I wonder if this was a biological warfare weapon/virus being manufactured in that lab in Wuhan? You can't believe the future of warfare will be aircraft dropping bombs and armies with guns shooting each other over a few miles of ground to capture when this is so much more effective. You force an entire country to surrender completely in days.

At first I believed what I was told about this virus. Anyone who didn't was labeled an imbecile, an idiot, a murderer, a conspiracy theorist. Now, my allegiance has flipped to the other side.

If I suddenly disappear, you'll know I was right and the CIA had to kill me for figuring it out. :giggle:
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i have never believed what they were spouting. Why are so many Dr and Nurses NOT getting a shot?
What we have is something man made, released or maybe loose by accident. We may never know.
there it is... :devilish: :coffee:
 
Whether we are comfortable with it or not, we have to keep washing our hands, practice social distancing, wear our masks, and get the vaccine.

It's better than going through what we could go through if we get the virus.....IF we live through getting it. And my conscience just couldn't handle even thinking that someone might get it because I was careless or remiss in doing everything I could do to help stop it. We are never going to get rid of this until we all step up and get vaccinated.

And, we have to be prepared for the variants of this virus. We will probably have to keep getting vaccinated just as we do for the yearly flu out break.
 


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