Does anyone else feel something is missing when it comes to Covid/Covid Vaccine??

JonDouglas said:
There was very little flu this season probably because a good bit of it was being classified as covid due to faulty test kits and the incentive/pressure to enter the covid fray.. The CDC was never very adept at counting flu cases accurately and revised its directives to allow influenze to be classified as covid. More regular flu didn't just go away.
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Australia reported the same phenomenon of low flu cases last Winter (NH Summer). I can assure you that reporting and record keeping over here is not inept. Covid vaccine is in short supply over here and the vaccination roll out has stalled. So far only about 4% of the population has received even the first jab. Under 50s are going to have to wait until close to Christmas. I am among the privileged and have an appointment for early May for my first jab of AstraZeneca.

We are looking at the swift rollout of vaccine in US with astonishment and envy. Thanks to strict lockdowns and quarantine practices we have been able to control community transmissions but it has come are great economic cost.

Our neighbours to the north in PNG are in much worse shape with a contagion spreading throughout the country, poorly developed public health systems and hardly any vaccine available to protect the population. I'm sure they would like to have the First World problem of having to decide whether vaccines and masks are an affront to individual freedom.
 

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chic said:
But how do you know this for a fact? You're believing what they tell you. Maybe Bill Gates was heavily invested in vaccines and maybe this has all been a test, or a taste of our futures, because they will not let this end. There's too much money to be made. And Bill Gates needs to control every aspect of other peoples' lives. We've seen this.

From my personal vantage point, if there were not a mask mandate here, I wouldn't even know anything was wrong in the world. This scares me.
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Great post!
 
Warrigal said:
Australia reported the same phenomenon of low flu cases last Winter (NH Summer). I can assure you that reporting and record keeping over here is not inept. Covid vaccine is in short supply over here and the vaccination roll out has stalled. So far only about 4% of the population has received even the first jab. Under 50s are going to have to wait until close to Christmas. I am among the privileged and have an appointment for early May for my first jab of AstraZeneca.

We are looking at the swift rollout of vaccine in US with astonishment and envy. Thanks to strict lockdowns and quarantine practices we have been able to control community transmissions but it has come are great economic cost.

Our neighbours to the north in PNG are in much worse shape with a contagion spreading throughout the country, poorly developed public health systems and hardly any vaccine available to protect the population. I'm sure they would like to have the First World problem of having to decide whether vaccines and masks are an affront to individual freedom.
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We have a 3 percent vaccinated here.
 
What puzzles me wih virus and/or the vaccine protocols is this is the first time I can remember them recommending the vax to those that actually had the virus. In the past "if you had it" ie those that had it and others vaxxed there were actually no out breaks of what ever. Being an old fart I had chicken pox, measles etc as a child as did many from my era and any job or situation that required a vax or had it seemed to work. Doctors wouldnt even flinch/push the vax if you it was on record you had it yet the vax was now available.
 
WhatInThe said:
What puzzles me wih virus and/or the vaccine protocols is this is the first time I can remember them recommending the vax to those that actually had the virus. In the past "if you had it" ie those that had it and others vaxxed there were actually no out breaks of what ever. Being an old fart I had chicken pox, measles etc as a child as did many from my era and any job or situation that required a vax or had it seemed to work. Doctors wouldnt even flinch/push the vax if you it was on record you had it yet the vax was now available.
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Puzzles me too. Follow the money is my guess. Who benefits from all these vaccinations? Big Pharma, - and we all know how much they care about us.
 
WhatInThe said:
What puzzles me wih virus and/or the vaccine protocols is this is the first time I can remember them recommending the vax to those that actually had the virus. In the past "if you had it" ie those that had it and others vaxxed there were actually no out breaks of what ever. Being an old fart I had chicken pox, measles etc as a child as did many from my era and any job or situation that required a vax or had it seemed to work. Doctors wouldnt even flinch/push the vax if you it was on record you had it yet the vax was now available.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/3...-youve-had-coronavirus-op-ed-the-conversation
 
chic said:
Puzzles me too. Follow the money is my guess. Who benefits from all these vaccinations? Big Pharma, - and we all know how much they care about us.
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And the fact that money drives everything else. I'm surprised that people know that but don't want to make the connection when it comes to this vaccine.
 
One doctor is recommending caution for some who had the virus getting vaccinated saying the extra antigens or antibodies in one's system could cause blood clots.

https://noorchashm.medium.com/j-js-...he-adversely-affected-women-have-cdde4bdbb090

I wonder would happen if someone was vaxxed for chicken pox or measles a few months after having them. Again this is only time I can remember pushing a vax on those that had the disease.
 
win231 said:
And the fact that money drives everything else. I'm surprised that people know that but don't want to make the connection when it comes to this vaccine.
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What makes you think that people don't make the connection? I don't know a soul who thinks multinational pharma companies are non-profits or charities.

Virtually everything we purchase and consume, every service person we employ, and every event we attend, is at least partly - if not entirely - money and profit driven. Doesn't stop us from buying those things or feeling they had value.
 
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I read a third vaccine is on the way for people that has taken the vaccine - booster shot. Also, people may have to take the vaccine annually. As long as it helps...👍
 
Though I am not a conspiracy theorist, this entire COVID thing is starting to feel like there is something very fundamental behind the scenes that isn't right.

Have you ever been in somebody's house where the kids seem to act just a bit odd and you have the gut sense that just maybe something is wrong?

That is the kind of sense/feeling that I am talking about - it is just out of my reach to identify, but I just sense that there is something odd going on.

Tony
 
tbeltrans said:
Though I am not a conspiracy theorist, this entire COVID thing is starting to feel like there is something very fundamental behind the scenes that isn't right.

Have you ever been in somebody's house where the kids seem to act just a bit odd and you have the gut sense that just maybe something is wrong?

That is the kind of sense/feeling that I am talking about - it is just out of my reach to identify, but I just sense that there is something odd going on.

Tony
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Shape-shifting reptilian aliens from another planet?

Now that you mention it, there was something odd about my second vaccination when they inserted a little chip in my shoulder. They told me it was for protection against software viruses. Is that a tracking chip?
 
Irwin said:
Shape-shifting reptilian aliens from another planet?

Now that you mention it, there was something odd about my second vaccination when they inserted a little chip in my shoulder. They told me it was for protection against software viruses. Is that a tracking chip?
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What I mean is simply that something about the patterns we are seeing repeating just doesn't seem right to me. Nothing to do with aliens or chip implants, though that would be a fun theory too. It seems that every time we are told that things are starting to open up, there is yet another mutation and the cycle starts all over again. We see business simply gone because they couldn't survive the lockdowns and we have the extended hardships on many people. At some point, this must change, but we seem to be stuck in cycle after cycle of this thing. It almost seems as if somebody somewhere is getting whatever desired result is from all this so it just continues without end. Instead of a few weeks lockdown to even things out so as not to overload medical services, more than a year later, nothing has changed.

We just got back from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN which is about 90 miles south of us. The nice restaurant at the hotel we always stay with when down there, has been closed for some time. I see a few of the Indian restaurants closed. Some of the shops we used to like to visit are completely gone. We can really see the impact this is having. It is a very sad thing.

We have been taking all the precautions and we got our shots (I even bought some really good masks at the Mayo Clinic Store), so this isn't a complaint about these things, but instead an observation that really hit home when we went down to the Mayo Clinic. I suppose we really notice those changes because we only go there every other year or so for my wife's medical requirements.

Tony
 
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tbeltrans said:
What I mean is simply that something about the patterns we are seeing repeating just doesn't seem right to me. Nothing to do with aliens or chip implants, though that would be a fun theory too. It seems that every time we are told that things are starting to open up, there is yet another mutation and the cycle starts all over again. We see business simply gone because they couldn't survive the lockdowns and we have the extended hardships on many people. At some point, this must change, but we seem to be stuck in cycle after cycle of this thing. It almost seems as if somebody somewhere is getting whatever desired result is from all this so it just continues without end. Instead of a few weeks lockdown to even things out so as not to overload medical services, more than a year later, nothing has changed.

We just got back from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN which is about 90 miles south of us. The nice restaurant at the hotel we always stay with when down there, has been closed for some time. I see a few of the Indian restaurants closed. Some of the shops we used to like to visit are completely gone. We can really see the impact this is having. It is a very sad thing.

We have been taking all the precautions and we got our shots, so this isn't a complaint about these things, but instead an observation that really hit home when we went down to the Mayo Clinic. I suppose we really notice those changes because we only go there every other year or so for my wife's medical requirements.

Tony
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It's to try to keep people terrified and living in the highest possible level of stress because otherwise we might actually start to live again and for some reason they don't want this unless it is a pittance they will allow to us only in exchange for being vaccinated. But even the fully vaccinated are told to continue mask wearing and social distancing so what is the perk here?

Back in Dec. 2020 when the vaccine first became available in the U.K. not as many wanted to take it as was anticipated, so then came the talk about the deadly U.K. variant. Followed by the deadly Brazilian variant and top it off with the African variant and people believe what they are told and many began to change their minds about being vaccinated because of these "variants."
 
tbeltrans said:
What I mean is simply that something about the patterns we are seeing repeating just doesn't seem right to me. Nothing to do with aliens or chip implants, though that would be a fun theory too. It seems that every time we are told that things are starting to open up, there is yet another mutation and the cycle starts all over again. We see business simply gone because they couldn't survive the lockdowns and we have the extended hardships on many people. At some point, this must change, but we seem to be stuck in cycle after cycle of this thing. It almost seems as if somebody somewhere is getting whatever desired result is from all this so it just continues without end. Instead of a few weeks to even things out so as not to overload medical services, more than a year later, nothing has changed.

We just got back from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN which is about 90 miles south of us. The nice restaurant at the hotel we always stay with when down there, has been closed for some time. I see a few of the Indian restaurants closed. Some of the shops we used to like to visit are completely gone. We can really see the impact this is having. It is a very sad thing.

We have been taking all the precautions and we got our shots, so this isn't a complaint about these things, but instead an observation that really hit home when we went down to the Mayo Clinic. I suppose we really notice those changes because we only go there every other year or so for my wife's medical requirements.

Tony
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Yeah, it's true that it seems like there's a cycle of re-opening and then locking down again when cases start flaring up. Until we reach herd immunity, which will be when about 70% of the population is vaccinated, that will continue. Of course, we'll probably never reach herd immunity because of all the misinformation floating around about the vaccine.

Right now, only 23.4% of the population has been fully vaccinated, 37.8% have received at least one dose. Some states are doing better than others. Here in Colorado, we're at 40.2% partially vaccinated. When we reach the point where the vaccine is available to anyone who wants it, then all restrictions should probably be lifted. I think we're almost there... maybe just one more month.
 
tbeltrans said:
What I mean is simply that something about the patterns we are seeing repeating just doesn't seem right to me. Nothing to do with aliens or chip implants, though that would be a fun theory too. It seems that every time we are told that things are starting to open up, there is yet another mutation and the cycle starts all over again. We see business simply gone because they couldn't survive the lockdowns and we have the extended hardships on many people. At some point, this must change, but we seem to be stuck in cycle after cycle of this thing. It almost seems as if somebody somewhere is getting whatever desired result is from all this so it just continues without end. Instead of a few weeks to even things out so as not to overload medical services, more than a year later, nothing has changed.

We just got back from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN which is about 90 miles south of us. The nice restaurant at the hotel we always stay with when down there, has been closed for some time. I see a few of the Indian restaurants closed. Some of the shops we used to like to visit are completely gone. We can really see the impact this is having. It is a very sad thing.

We have been taking all the precautions and we got our shots, so this isn't a complaint about these things, but instead an observation that really hit home when we went down to the Mayo Clinic. I suppose we really notice those changes because we only go there every other year or so for my wife's medical requirements.

Tony
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I think it's a combination of cya policy, power trips and unknown including those in 'control' not knowing as much as they say hench cya policy. Throw in liability issues not helping. Nor are politics. And profits including those from disease related possibilities.

The response is the proverbial cure that is worse than the disease. But in this case too many lives were changed FOREVER. Yes some got sick and didn't make it but I know too many others who passed of other stufff wether it be disease, incompetance, their own doing etc. Sometimes life has to go on, move forward.

I don't think they ever had a full handle on this and do not want to admit it.
 
tbeltrans said:
Though I am not a conspiracy theorist, this entire COVID thing is starting to feel like there is something very fundamental behind the scenes that isn't right.

Have you ever been in somebody's house where the kids seem to act just a bit odd and you have the gut sense that just maybe something is wrong?

That is the kind of sense/feeling that I am talking about - it is just out of my reach to identify, but I just sense that there is something odd going on.

Tony
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YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! I am not on this boat alone. I feel the SAME WAY!!!!! It's like with all of this going on 2+2=22 :unsure:
 
WhatInThe said:
I think it's a combination of cya policy, power trips and unknown including those in 'control' not knowing as much as they say hench cya policy. Throw in liability issues not helping. Nor are politics. And profits including those from disease related possibilities.

The response is the proverbial cure that is worse than the disease. But in this case too many lives were changed FOREVER. Yes some got sick and didn't make it but I know too many others who passed of other stufff wether it be disease, incompetance, their own doing etc. Sometimes life has to go on, move forward.

I don't think they ever had a full handle on this and do not want to admit it.
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GREAT POST!!!!!!!! But we are made to believe they had/have a handle on it. :unsure:
 
Irwin said:
Shape-shifting reptilian aliens from another planet?

Now that you mention it, there was something odd about my second vaccination when they inserted a little chip in my shoulder. They told me it was for protection against software viruses. Is that a tracking chip?
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Make sure you have Wi-Fi to keep track of the software protection.
 
tbeltrans said:
Though I am not a conspiracy theorist, this entire COVID thing is starting to feel like there is something very fundamental behind the scenes that isn't right.

Have you ever been in somebody's house where the kids seem to act just a bit odd and you have the gut sense that just maybe something is wrong?

That is the kind of sense/feeling that I am talking about - it is just out of my reach to identify, but I just sense that there is something odd going on.

Tony
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Tony....what a great scenario regarding kids. Years ago (my daughter was about 3 years old, she is now 29 yrs old) when my daughter started with a new child care provider, I went to drop her off, she held me soooo close and was crying. She was caring for her for a few months. Needless to say, I did not drop her off and did not take her back there again. I felt in my gut something was wrong.
 
Ladybj said:
Tony....what a great scenario regarding kids. Years ago (my daughter was about 3 years old, she is now 29 yrs old) when my daughter started with a new child care provider, I went to drop her off, she held me soooo close and was crying. She was caring for her for a few months. Needless to say, I did not drop her off and did not take her back there again. I felt in my gut something was wrong.
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You were right to trust your gut.
 

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