Does anyone else feel something is missing when it comes to Covid/Covid Vaccine??

Medications for a virus are almost impossible since unlike antibiotics, they only weaken a virus where a patient can tolerate it while sick. Anti virals can help the immune system fight the virus, but they won't kill it off. Vaccines have been found to be the effective way to combat viral infections of every nature. Except the HIV virus. They treat that with a combination of meds.
 

Ladybj said:
My case in point..why not come up with meds to help those that have been hospitalized due to Covid. I can understand trying to come up with a vaccine to keep people out the hospital but what about those that come to the hospital and those they may end up in the hospital although they had the vaccine. So many unanswered questions and prevented measures.
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Remdesivir, monoclonal antibodies, convalescent plasma . . . and they're you can bet they're working on others. Viral infections are notoriously difficult to treat.
 
win231 said:
I also feel there are many pieces of the puzzle missing. I'm not so sure about truth prevailing at any time.
As for treating Covid patients, I'm surprised that people aren't thinking, "Hmmmm, where are all these "550,000" Covid patients dying? They're dying in hospitals - surrounded by doctors & nurses.
So.......the people who are pushing the vaccine on us are the same people who can't save so many Covid patients.
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I don't think it is surprising or odd that it is doctors and medical professionals (who can't save covid patients) who are advising us to get the vaccine. Of course they are -- they are the ones watching people die and fearing for their own lives.

Or would you rather the medics keep their mouths shut about the vaccine so they can fill up their beds and keep on watching people die?
 

10-year-old boy has hands, legs amputated after MIS-C, COVID-19 diagnosis https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/...ovid-19-diagnosis/2A7Q2NUKHVBBNBXETE5IOLOG2I/

White House security director has part of leg amputated after falling severely ill with COVID-19, fundraiser says - ABC News - https://abcn.ws/3r5baVN via @abc

An actor in New York struggled for months, in and out of comas, one leg amputated, and would have needed a lung transplant.....if he had lived. He didn't. He died after months of misery, in July . https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nick-cordero-death-broadway-actor-age-41-coronavirus/

COVID-19 survivor who spent 64 days in Burbank hospital, had most of his fingers amputated: ‘This can happen to you’ https://ktla.com/news/local-news/co...ost-fingers-amputated-this-can-happen-to-you/​


I got the vaccine. As much as I fear getting the virus, I fear giving it to someone else even more. Of course, we want answers. But, until the answers become available, we have to do what we can to protect ourselves and those we come in contact with.

OLBERMANN VS. THE VACCINE HESITANT: I went to a hockey game. Never thought I might die. GET THE SHOT https://youtu.be/G_mJaf21rMovia
@YouTube
 
Capt Lightning said:
Of course there are huge gaps in out knowledge, but one thing is clear and that is that the number of people dying from Covid-19.
You can refuse to believe that if you want. You can be the most cynical non-believer in the graveyard if you so choose.

Vaccines are only one weapon in our armoury, but they seem to be proving their worth. As time goes on, I'm sure they will be improved and side effects lessened. New medicines and treatments will doubtless come along too.
Until then, if I was drowning and someone threw me a lifeline, I'd grab it .
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The topic post isn't saying non belief of Covid deaths.

That's the problem with replies, not understanding the content of the post.

Anyone having doubts or concerns regarding the vaccine or questions about treatment and bam!!! The poster is accused of not believing Covid is serious. Or accused of being a conspiracy nut. Or paranoid.

It's a shame that a few members are hesitant to voice their concerns due to quickly being labeled paranoid, conspiracy nut, non believer, anti vaxer, etc. 😥
 
Ceege said:
10-year-old boy has hands, legs amputated after MIS-C, COVID-19 diagnosis https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/...ovid-19-diagnosis/2A7Q2NUKHVBBNBXETE5IOLOG2I/

White House security director has part of leg amputated after falling severely ill with COVID-19, fundraiser says - ABC News - https://abcn.ws/3r5baVN via @abc

An actor in New York struggled for months, in and out of comas, one leg amputated, and would have needed a lung transplant.....if he had lived. He didn't. He died after months of misery, in July . https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nick-cordero-death-broadway-actor-age-41-coronavirus/

COVID-19 survivor who spent 64 days in Burbank hospital, had most of his fingers amputated: ‘This can happen to you’ https://ktla.com/news/local-news/co...ost-fingers-amputated-this-can-happen-to-you/​


I got the vaccine. As much as I fear getting the virus, I fear giving it to someone else even more. Of course, we want answers. But, until the answers become available, we have to do what we can to protect ourselves and those we come in contact with.

OLBERMANN VS. THE VACCINE HESITANT: I went to a hockey game. Never thought I might die. GET THE SHOT https://youtu.be/G_mJaf21rMovia
@YouTube
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Some very powerful stuff here, @Ceege. Thank you for the links.
 
I do agree with the OP that we very well may discover some long term side effects from the vaccines. We already know some people are having issues immediately. But waiting 5 or more years like most vaccines wasn't really an option. So what do you do? I think bringing out the vaccine was the right thing to do so long as we don't force it on anyone who doesn't want to take it. I had my doubts and thought long and hard before finally deciding to get the vaccine. I wouldn't criticize anyone who chooses not to get it.
As to treatments, there are some available now that work quite well and more in the pipeline.
 
Becky1951 said:
Not many people would. But why assume everyone who isn't vaccinated is running around maskless? I'm not.
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Once I'm past the two weeks after my second vaccine, I will have vaccinated friends and family members in my home. And they can be maskless.
I wouldn't invite unvaccinated folks to come inside my home. Outdoors, masked and distanced only.
 
Yup, I am sick and tired of talking about the virus, how good or bad the vaccines are, are there long term side effects for short term old people, if this is really real, and on and on and on; and then @win231 really? Name calling? Shame on you!

Do I think something is missing? Time is missing! God gives instant miracles, scientists and science takes much longer. We need more time. There is nothing we can do but wait, pray, and cry for the dead and dying. It is so frustrating, but all our opinions are useless. IMO. 😍
 
win231 said:
The point is not that these patients should have died somewhere else. The point is that doctors don't have the answers. If a doctor can't cure an illness, my guess is as good as theirs.
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Their treatments saved many hundreds of thousands of people who had Covid. In the past 8 months alone over 1.9 million Covid patients were admitted to US hospitals. No, the doctors couldn't save them all. While they may not have all the answers they do have enough experience, tools and education to save the lion's share.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#new-hospital-admissions

Your guess is as good as theirs? Hardly.
Unless you went to medical school and worked in the field for years, your guess wouldn't be nearly as good as theirs.
 
StarSong said:
Their treatments saved many hundreds of thousands of people who had Covid. In the past 8 months alone over 1.9 million Covid patients were admitted to US hospitals. No, the doctors couldn't save them all. While they may not have all the answers they do have enough experience, tools and education to save the lion's share.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#new-hospital-admissions

Your guess is as good as theirs? Hardly.
Unless you went to medical school and worked in the field for years, your guess wouldn't be nearly as good as theirs.
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion & your level of confidence in doctors; as I am to mine. :giggle:
 
I wonder if this was a biological warfare weapon/virus being manufactured in that lab in Wuhan? You can't believe the future of warfare will be aircraft dropping bombs and armies with guns shooting each other over a few miles of ground to capture when this is so much more effective. You force an entire country to surrender completely in days.

At first I believed what I was told about this virus. Anyone who didn't was labeled an imbecile, an idiot, a murderer, a conspiracy theorist. Now, my allegiance has flipped to the other side.

If I suddenly disappear, you'll know I was right and the CIA had to kill me for figuring it out. :giggle:
 

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