No more masks!

SeaBreeze said:
Yes, which is why those of us who are vaccinated should still wear a mask to protect those who aren't, we can still get a mild version of the virus, but are still capable of spreading it to those who are not vaccinated. People should remember, this is a world wide potentially deadly pandemic, nothing to make light of.
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SeaBreeze said:
Yes, which is why those of us who are vaccinated should still wear a mask to protect those who aren't, we can still get a mild version of the virus, but are still capable of spreading it to those who are not vaccinated. People should remember, this is a world wide potentially deadly pandemic, nothing to make light of.
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So basically what your saying is that everybody should wear a mask all the time since there's no way of knowing who is or isn't vaccinated. In this way everyone will now be somewhat responsible for everyone else's health and well-being. Not exactly the stuff of freedom, is it? I don't think that's going to fly.
 
JonDouglas said:
So basically what your saying is that everybody should wear a mask all the time since there's no way of knowing who is or isn't vaccinated. In this way everyone will now be somewhat responsible for everyone else's health and well-being. Not exactly the stuff of freedom, is it? I don't think that's going to fly.
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I'm saying that until more people get vaccinated and the COVID-19 pandemic is under control, it's wise and considerate for those to continue to wear masks when close to other people, especially indoors. I don't nitpick about my health or everyone else's, but those who want the pandemic to be in the rear view mirror will do whatever will help this country to be safe again, in all states, and get back to normal. As an American I have many freedoms, I don't whine about wearing a mask while there are still active coronavirus cases in my country, that does not affect my freedoms. Don't care if it "flies" or not. That is my opinion on safety during this pandemic.
 
Irwin said:
As long as there are no symptoms, it doesn't really matter if you catch it, unless of course you could spread it. I haven't heard of any verified cases of someone testing positive without any symptoms spreading the virus, but it would be hard to trace such a case.
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JonDouglas said:
This was in CNN Business: Walmart, Trader Joe's and Costco say vaccinated customers don't have to wear masks in stores
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I was at Trader Joe's (CA) today. The "Masks Required" signs were gone.
 
cdestroyer said:
erhum... the vaccines we received from childhood to today do NOT prevent you from getting the disease, but rather limit the diseases affects.. you got a regular flu shot but still got the flu, just not as bad as if you not gotten the shot!
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Re: The flu shot making the flu less severe.
If they want to sell flu shots, they can't very well tell us it's useless, then we'll be asking them, "Then why do you want us to get it?"
 
win231 said:
I was at Trader Joe's (CA) today. The "Masks Required" signs were gone.
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I hope they disappear here as well. Our governor still won't allow it but says changes are coming early next week. I hope so. I've been sitting in cars since last September because stores everywhere won't let me in without a mask. You can't fully understand how much this damages you until you've lived through it like I have.
 
JonDouglas said:
So basically what your saying is that everybody should wear a mask all the time since there's no way of knowing who is or isn't vaccinated. In this way everyone will now be somewhat responsible for everyone else's health and well-being. Not exactly the stuff of freedom, is it? I don't think that's going to fly.
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There is no indication...none at all that continued wearing of masks will be mandated by public authority. However, it has been suggested that the populace might be inclined to exercise common sense on a personal basis.
 
Nathan said:
There is no indication...none at all that continued wearing of masks will be mandated by public authority. However, it has been suggested that the populace might be inclined to exercise common sense on a personal basis.
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If everyone acted like adults with common sense in this country, we'd be in much better shape now with this pandemic than we are currently.
 
Aunt Marg said:
It's my understanding that mask wearing mandates meant little to those in the USofA.

Those who approached the guidelines with respect, wore them, and those who lacked respect for themselves as well as other, didn't.

That, and the fact that States such as Texas, Mississippi, Alabama and West Virginia, all bucked the system back in April and arbitrarily chose to lift any/all restrictions related to mask wearing, which relayed to me the complete and total anarchy that exists in your country.
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Anarchy ??? I think that is what my mother was referring to when she described certain people as always being "agin the guv'mint". She blamed the Irish blood for this tendency. Irish blood runs in my family.

She had another saying for unthinking and reckless people. She would declare that they would set fire to the house to light a cigarette.

Agonising about whether to wear or not wear a mask is a First World problem. Right now, in India, people are desperately trying to get a seat on a plane to Australia before they get infected and die. For some it is already too late. They are Australian citizens but the government is only now organising evacuations.

That is really something to be concerned about.
 
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SeaBreeze said:
Yes, which is why those of us who are vaccinated should still wear a mask to protect those who aren't, we can still get a mild version of the virus, but are still capable of spreading it to those who are not vaccinated. People should remember, this is a world wide potentially deadly pandemic, nothing to make light of.
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SeaBreeze, you have hit the nail squarely on the head. COVID-19 has set off a pandemic and it won't end anytime soon. Caution and co-operation will be necessary until every country has beaten this disease. Only then will it be safe to have open borders and international travel again. The whole world will need to be vaccinated at levels that produce a high level of immunity to every variant of the coronavirus.

Sure, there will be times of respite when infection levels are low and there will be regions/states where infection is not spreading, but all that can change very quickly if we think it is all over. It's not. and it won't be for many months, maybe years, yet.
 
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hollydolly said:
I hope it never arrives in your state... it really will cause much more harm then God knows we've had already....:(
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I saw on the news this morning that the India version is spreading in a part of England and May effect the reopening there which is sad. I think in the USA so many have had Covid and a good deal of people are vaccinated, that we are starting to see a bit of herd immunity. We are reopening.

Plus there are always people who will not get the virus even though they are not vaccinated. Having said this, I am “over” being worried about the virus. I have done what I can and continue to do what I can to protect myself. All my family that can be vaccinated is. I was only expected, according to certain docs, to live to 75 and I will be 75 soon. Not wasting anymore of the time I have left on virus worries.

I will not return to watching a movie at the movie theater, the risk is too great. I will do indoor dining only once or twice a month and only if the restaurant is not busy. Otherwise, I return to life as usual and, as usual, it is in the hands of God.

I hope the people of the UK and other countries do well @hollydolly but the virus will always be with us.
 
Aneeda72 said:
I saw on the news this morning that the India version is spreading in a part of England and May effect the reopening there which is sad. I think in the USA so many have had Covid and a good deal of people are vaccinated, that we are starting to see a bit of herd immunity. We are reopening.

Plus there are always people who will not get the virus even though they are not vaccinated. Having said this, I am “over” being worried about the virus. I have done what I can and continue to do what I can to protect myself. All my family that can be vaccinated is. I was only expected, according to certain docs, to live to 75 and I will be 75 soon. Not wasting anymore of the time I have left on virus worries.

I will not return to watching a movie at the movie theater, the risk is too great. I will do indoor dining only once or twice a month and only if the restaurant is not busy. Otherwise, I return to life as usual and, as usual, it is in the hands of God.

I hope the people of the UK and other countries do well @hollydolly but the virus will always be with us.
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It hasn't prevented our re-opening on the 17th..our PM made a speech at 5pm last night and said that the cities ( mainly northern cities) will be given extra help with vaccinations in the hope of preventing the Indian variant from spreading too far...so our long awaited release from lockdown will go ahead on Monday.. thank God, and hopefully everyone will still take a lot of care...if not for themselves but to prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed and people with serious conditions such as Cancer, and ALS.. etc will not die for the want of treamtent in an otherwise overcrowded hospital
 
hollydolly said:
It hasn't prevented our re-opening on the 17th..our PM made a speech at 5pm last night and said that the cities ( mainly northern cities) will be given extra help with vaccinations in the hope of preventing the Indian variant from spreading too far...so our long awaited release from lockdown will go ahead on Monday.. thank God, and hopefully everyone will still take a lot of care...if not for themselves but to prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed and people with serious conditions such as Cancer, and ALS.. etc will not die for the want of treamtent in an otherwise overcrowded hospital
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Boris looks much healthier, to me, than he has in the past (can’t remember his last name). The speech I saw him make said that things might change on the June 7 plans. Are they forcing people in the north to get vaccinated? It said they were going house to house to vaccinate. @hollydolly
 
Aneeda72 said:
Boris looks much healthier, to me, than he has in the past (can’t remember his last name). The speech I saw him make said that things might change on the June 7 plans. Are they forcing people in the north to get vaccinated? It said they were going house to house to vaccinate. @hollydolly
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yes they are going house to house.. this is not the first Rodeo for those areas in the north ....so this time they really have to have it explained to them how important it is to be vaccinated..

Boris Johnson.. is looking better to you I suspect since he recovered from C-19 ..and yes he's covering himself for the June re-opening of EVERYTHING... in case the Indian Variant becomes much worse between now and then
 
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Nathan said:
There is no indication...none at all that continued wearing of masks will be mandated by public authority. However, it has been suggested that the populace might be inclined to exercise common sense on a personal basis.
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Of course not. Some public authorities are continuing to mandate them now but more and more people have stopped listening. Wait till the effects of continued masking become known. Anyway, you don't see many people around here wearing them when out and about. I am planning to attend a big tank (as in army tank) demo day at the American Heritage Museum today and will take stock of masking there, if any.
 
JonDouglas said:
Asking someone to reveal whether they are vaccinated or not might be a HIPA violation, but I am not sure.
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It should be. I live in a retirement complex. Whenever someone in the complex would get Covid they would post a memo on our door stating the a resident tested positive for Covid and is quarantined. They would not tell anyone who it was. They would say "Due to State and Federal privacy laws and regulations, we are unable to share information about specific residents or team members"
 
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HIPAA only applies to covered entities. If someone at a hospital or nursing home tells someone your health information that's a violation. If Walmart wants to know if you've had your vax in order to determine if you go in with or without a mask that's not the same thing.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Are they forcing people in the north to get vaccinated? It said they were going house to house to vaccinate.
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hollydolly said:
yes they are going house to house.. this is not the first Rodeo for those areas in the north ....so this time they really have to have it explained to them how important it is to be vaccinated.
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Yikes that would scare the **** out of me. I live in a nice place in California due to the great climate here, but have been considering the possibility to get in my car, leave and head to South Dakota or some other relatively free state like Texas or Florida. My friend just moved back from Florida and said it is too crowded there, the storms are scary, and he became more aware of the rising waters.

I've only traveled through South Dakota once when quite young. My prime motivation throughout my life has been staying healthy and free, and my greatest fear is being held down and poisoned against my will with no choice, as I've seen and known happen to so many other people and their lives completely destroyed. I hope that's not something they do here, but would not be surprised if it happens.
 

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