The Aussies

jerry old

Texas Crude
I have an interest in the peoples of that area, the Aussies, New Zealand and Tasmania and all those Pacific Islands'
There like us, but different in their demand for personal freedom; especially those in the Outback.

I wonder if the Urban Aussies lost that part of their personality, they can teach us a great deal.

They can teach us what 'Waltzing Matilda' means, and it mean a lot, in different ways to all the Aussies.

As Commonwealth nations they felt they had to do things the general population was opposed to-no more!

Perhaps we have something to teach them also.

So to the down under folk, how do you feel about your nation and other nations.

Tell the Americans and Brits why Kangaroos dread rainy days.
 

'On The Beach': a dismal screenplay of nuclear war...
The Northern Hemisphere is coated with Radioactive Clouds and all life has ceased.
An American Submarine finds refuge in Australia, though it will only be a few months before
the radioactive clouds will cover the Southern Hemisphere.

Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner provide the love interest.
Peck is the commander of the American Sub-He and his crew return to American on the faint hope
there is one person alive. The Crew can stay in Australia and live a few months; they choose to return to the land of their birth.
The thrust of the movie is how the Australian people choose to meet their death.

I saw the movie in my early movies, did not like it at all. Who wants to see a movie where everybody dies.
(This was in early sixties, before the disaster movies came out of Hollywood.)

The soundtrack had this song, especially at the ending. I thought it had to be a religious song, I though it was a religious
song; back then, my memory was good, but the same of the song escaped me.

Thirty years later I determined the song was 'Waltzing Matilda,' the unofficial National Anthem of Australia.
 
WALTZING MATILDA

The title is Australian slang for traveling on foot with one's belongings (waltzing, derived from the German auf der Walz) in a "Matilda" (swag) slung over one's back.[2] The song narrates the story of an itinerant worker, or "swagman", making a drink of tea at a bush camp and capturing a sheep to eat. When the sheep's owner arrives with three police officers to arrest the worker for the theft, the worker commits suicide by drowning himself in the nearby watering hole, after which his ghost haunts the site.

This song is important in Australian History and culture, important enough to be discussed separately.
We will trace it's history.
 

To understand Australians you need to have some grasp of our history and geography.

History - began as a British penal colony and evolved into a federation of just 6 states without a violent revolution. We've never been at war with ourselves. Early settlement co-incided with the Industrial Revolution and most settlers were literate and skilled workers. No history of slavery where human beings could be owned, bred and sold although indigenous people did not have citizenship rights unto the second half of last century. Indentured workers were imported from the Pacific islands. They were returned but it was slavelike servitude.

Geography - an island continent situated at, as one of our prime ministers once stated, "the arse end of the world" conferred many advantages and some disadvantages. Previously undiscovered by Europeans the land was rich in resources - timber, minerals and pastures - and the settlers, after a shaky start, prospered. However, Australia is the hottest, driest continent and Europeans found it difficult to settle the vast inland. To survive in sparsely populated regions it was necessary to co-operate with and support each other, even when your neighbour might be more than a day's ride away. That spirit of co-operation (mateship) survives to this day. It manifests when disaster strikes - bushfires, floods, war and economic hardship. It is at work now during the Covid pandemic. We grumble. We complain. But we pull together and co-operate because that is who we are.

If you are interested in understanding the Australian psyche you might like to read Neville Shute's novel "A Town Like Alice" or watch one of the two films of that name.
 
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I’m Aussie .. never ever ventured off the mainland unless you’d count Tasmania as going off shore but it’s still Australia .

I grew up in what I’d class as a fairy rough isolated Outback mining town of about 40.000 in it’s heyday
it had about 70 hotels compared to about 20 now however in 1950 I was only 4 years old.
 
WALTZING MATILDA

The title is Australian slang for traveling on foot with one's belongings (waltzing, derived from the German auf der Walz) in a "Matilda" (swag) slung over one's back.[2] The song narrates the story of an itinerant worker, or "swagman", making a drink of tea at a bush camp and capturing a sheep to eat. When the sheep's owner arrives with three police officers to arrest the worker for the theft, the worker commits suicide by drowning himself in the nearby watering hole, after which his ghost haunts the site.

This song is important in Australian History and culture, important enough to be discussed separately.
We will trace it's history.
Unfortunately, Banjo Paterson sold Waltzing Matilda for a few bobs, to pay his gambling debt.
That being said, to me Waltzing Matilda will always be our national anthem, be it unofficial.
 
To understand Australians you need to have some grasp of our history and geography.

History - began as a British penal colony and evolved into a federation of just 6 states without a violent revolution.
When Clive Woodward, the England manager of the rugby team, that beat Australia in the 2003 rugby world cup final, was asked by Australian immigration: "Any criminal record?" He is reputed to have replied: "I didn't realise that you still needed one."

It was probably Crocodile Dundee that put Australia on the map for Americans. The film helped shape their view of Australia,
 
It was probably Crocodile Dundee that put Australia on the map for Americans. The film helped shape their view of Australia,
Never been to Australia but its on my bucket list, and has been since long before Crocodile Dundee. I think a lot of Americans are intrigued by the idea of Australia.
When Clive Woodward, the England manager of the rugby team, that beat Australia in the 2003 rugby world cup final, was asked by Australian immigration: "Any criminal record?" He is reputed to have replied: "I didn't realise that you still needed one."
I like that, will have to remember it. Is it true? Makes a good story.

Did you know that the British sent convicts to America before the Revolutionary War? By some estimates as many or more than were sent to Australia. Its harder to know how many came here, the existing records are older and some non-existent. And many were sold here as indentured servants not clearly identified as convicts. Just one of our shared histories.
 
I met a 24 year old college student born in Perth. She had 7 brothers, and was abused regularly. She left Perth after high school, traveled around Europe and then came to the U.S., and to central Missouri to go to art school at the University. She was ( has moved away years ago ) the most independent, strong willed, tough, beautiful young women I have ever met....and very smart. We hung out a lot and I learned a lot about being Aussie.
One of the members of our community lived in Australia for a couple years, on the west side, started a candle factory, and looked for was it "opals", or "sapphire" I can't remember....help me...there are lots of people , at least back around 1965, that were prospecting also. He had lots of stories to tell that were great. Jennifer and him met out here for a dinner. It was a blast seeing them reminisce about there mutual understanding of the culture...which made me feel like I knew the culture better myself.
I just watched "A Town Like Alice" and see what you mean. It is the most "real" depiction of the culture I have seen. There were no caricatures in this film...all the newer ones seem to stereo type them into commercial icons.
They are having a real tough go of it...the fires, drought, pandemic, China, etc.... I keep up with what is going there pretty closely.
 
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Unfortunately, Banjo Paterson sold Waltzing Matilda for a few bobs, to pay his gambling debt.
That being said, to me Waltzing Matilda will always be our national anthem, be it unofficial.
That's a sad thought, about selling the song rights away but gambling is an addiction like many other things in life and once addicted, one feels unwell until the needs of the addiction are met. I've long felt that Stairway To Heaven was or should be the National Anthem For Rock and Roll. But RnR isn't a country. It's more a state of mind. And with some NFL players here in the US, choosing to kneel in protest that THE official national anthem, The Star Spangled Banner, doesn't represent all of them, Lift Every Voice And Sing, has been suggested and played along with the SSB a few times and suggested as a possible new national anthem. One doesn't have to be Aussie though, I feel, to appreciate the song. The history is important, more to some than to others but a great song will forever stay great just on its own merit alone.
 
Never been to Australia but its on my bucket list, and has been since long before Crocodile Dundee. I think a lot of Americans are intrigued by the idea of Australia.

I like that, will have to remember it. Is it true? Makes a good story.

Did you know that the British sent convicts to America before the Revolutionary War? By some estimates as many or more than were sent to Australia. Its harder to know how many came here, the existing records are older and some non-existent. And many were sold here as indentured servants not clearly identified as convicts. Just one of our shared histories.
The quip about Clive Woodward is probably fiction, dreamed up by a journalistic hack, but it does have an amusing appeal.

England transported its convicts and political prisoners, as well as prisoners of war from Scotland and Ireland, to its overseas colonies in the Americas from the 1610's until early in the American Revolution in 1776, when transportation to America was temporarily suspended by the Criminal Law Act 1776.

It's estimated that some 50,000 British convicts were sent to the Americas this way, and the majority landed in the Chesapeake Colonies of Maryland and Virginia. Transported convicts represented perhaps one-quarter of Britons that left the country during the 18th century.

Between 1788 and 1868 more than 164,000 convicts were transported to Australia. Of these, about 7000 arrived in 1833 alone. The convicts were transported as punishment for crimes committed in Britain and Ireland.

The last convict ship, Hougoumont, left Britain in 1867 and arrived in Western Australia on 10 January 1868. In all, about the 164,000 convicts were transported to the Australian colonies between 1788 and 1868 onboard 806 ships.

On February 2nd, 1825 Britain officially recognised Argentina as an independent state. The Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation was signed on behalf of Britain by the marvellously named Woodbine Parish, chargé d’affaires in Buenos Aires. It was the beginning of a long and often fruitful relationship, which saw many British industrialists and landowners make their mark on the young country. Football, a sport at which Argentina long surpassed England, was introduced in 1867 by two railway workers from Yorkshire, Thomas and James Hogg, the founders of Buenos Aires FC. Many of Argentina’s most famous clubs, such as Newell’s Old Boys, River Plate and Temperly, betray their roots in their names.

Did you know that English families sent second and younger sons, or what were described as the black sheep of the family, to Argentina to make their fortunes in cattle and wheat. English settlers introduced, as well as football, polo, cricket and rugby to Argentina.

Penal transportation was not limited to men or even to adults. Men, women, and children were sentenced to transportation, but its implementation varied by sex and age. We Brits really do have a lot to answer for.
 
You omitted the link - The Band Played Waltzing Matilda - John McDermott - Bing video

When Hubby and I visited Gallipoli in 2000 our Turkish tour guide had spent time living in Australia. He was very tuned in to the Australian psyche. He explained the invasion from the Turkish POV, but very gently. As the coach drove away he played a tape of this song.

Personally I prefer a version without the Irish accent.

This version is by Eric Bogle who wrote the song. It's less polished than the Irish Tenors but more heart felt IMO. I confess that I wept as I listened to the familiar song.

 
I cannot post links on this broken machine, it is far too old to have it repaired.
Thanks for posting link.
 
"It's estimated that some 50,000 British convicts were sent to the Americas this way, and the majority landed in the Chesapeake Colonies of Maryland and Virginia. Transported convicts represented perhaps one-quarter of Britons that left the country during the 18th century."

Good stuff Horseless Carriage' now tell us the role of indentured servants in America.

If you have time, convicts Georgia are good reading.
(Information on the convicts sent South Carolina has disappeared.)

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Ooops, forgot about Alligatorrob's post

"Did you know that the British sent convicts to America before the Revolutionary War? By some estimates as many or more than were sent to Australia. Its harder to know how many came here, the existing records are older and some non-existent. And many were sold here as indentured servants not clearly identified as convicts. Just one of our shared histories."
 

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