Yeah, the cap must have been on.....very suspicious photo there.
Maybe this thread should be in the Coronavirus Forum, now also known as the Conspiracy Forum thanks to many of the latest posts. 
Doc wont see patients if no vax
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Maybe this thread should be in the Coronavirus Forum, now also known as the Conspiracy Forum thanks to many of the latest posts. 
Tish
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Nope haven't heard it over here in Aus either.
Pauline1954
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Dont be a wisecrack. Google suppresses too. Or no maybe you believe everything read.
Well, I didn't get the Pfizer and have never paid much attention to the needles and syringes of any vaccine, but I was trying to make sense of what that orange might have been, I knew it wasn't a cap on the needle. Seems like a politician had the same false accusations about her photo of getting the vaccine, and it was explained that the orange part that people were alleging was a cap, was a 'hub' which goes between the syringe and the needle, it does not cover the tip of the needle.
Believe what you want Pauline, I'm not here to convince anybody or change anyone's opinion. You can follow lies and conspiracies, and repost 'what you heard', but know that you are part of the problem.
Not all syringes are made equal.
Your "mystery cap."
PS My original note was really harsh but I decided to let the photos speak for themselves.
Your "mystery cap."
PS My original note was really harsh but I decided to let the photos speak for themselves.
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Shero
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Is that photo supposed to clarify anything? It's not even the same photo. He's obviously wearing a different color shirt. The fact that there are different types of syringes doesn't mean this particular person we're referring to got the vaccine.
Thanks @Jennina and @Shero for your photos and video, very helpful. Of course, as you can see, reality never stopped the gossip of conspiracies for those who refuse to see it. The nonsense will keep flowing, but it's good to offset it now and then with truth and facts. Civilians, front-line workers, doctors, nurses and family of members who died from COVID-19 or have loved ones in hospitals hooked up to ventilators appreciate caring folks like you who want fellow Americans to stay alive and healthy. Thanks again. 
John cycling
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No, we truth seers are obviously not in the group who do that, and who cause the real problems.
The truth is the truth - No one can change it by spreading lies, misinformation and using authoritarian measures.
I've always felt that seeing and living by the truth is the only way to live a true life, and after 75 years, I'm not going to change.
Yes, how dare anyone not accept nonsense! Very frustrating.Thanks @Jennina and @Shero for your photos and video, very helpful. Of course, as you can see, reality never stopped the gossip of conspiracies for those who refuse to see it. The nonsense will keep flowing, but it's good to offset it now and then with truth and facts. Civilians, front-line workers, doctors, nurses and family of members who died from COVID-19 or have loved ones in hospitals hooked up to ventilators appreciate caring folks like you who want fellow Americans to stay alive and healthy. Thanks again.
You missed the point. I didn't say that was the Pfizer CEO. I'm showing you the syringe that looks like the one used by the doctor. The orange thingy wasn't the cap.Is that photo supposed to clarify anything? It's not even the same photo. He's obviously wearing a different color shirt. The fact that there are different types of syringes doesn't mean this particular person we're referring to got the vaccine.
OK. So, how do we decide whom to believe?
It's either the CEO and the doctor are stupid enough to stage a failed fake jab or you overestimated your knowledge of syringes.
I think it's safe to assume that
the CEO of PFizer is well educated and has breadth and depth of experience in his field. it's also safe to assume that the doctor who spent more than a decade (or 2 or 3) studying and practicing medicine knows how to use syringes. That said, I don't think they are capable of descending to the level of stupidity you are accusing them of.
If in fact, it was staged, they would be smart enough to pay attention to details because of what's at stake --- their careers if they get found out. You're accusing 2 intelligent individuals of back to back stupidity --- doctor forgets to remove the cap and then the CEO didn't check the photo before posting it.
Let's now go to you. I don't know what your educational background is or what your profession is/was. So I'm going to base my comment on your post. As far as syringes and vaccination requirements are concerned, it seems your only credential is you have diabetes. So, yes youre familar with insulin syringes. Are you familiar with the types of syringes they use for Covid?
So in conclusion, the likelihood of the doctor and the CEO being careless doing something unethical that might jeopardize their careers is
way way lower than the odds of you making a mistake about a syringe that you don't even seem to be aware exists.
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We have made this same decision. We believe it is a personal decision and should never be mandated.Seems like major changes happening for the people and forced vaccinations. When the CDC tell their employees they have to vac to keep their job as well as FDA telling along with congress and the like Lets not forget the CEO of Pfizer isnt getting the vax either. He says he's not frontline and it isnt needed and hes saying his shot for someone else.. I think I will do what they are doing. Besides it would probably harm me or kill me. Because two,of my children are suffering with illness and pain they cant determine what it is. So not for me. Its not safe from everything Ive learned. And I did a ton of research to come to this decision.
AnnieA
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Doctors in private practice can refuse care with a 30 day notice.
https://medicaljustice.com/when-can-you-refuse-to-treat-a-patient/
https://medicaljustice.com/when-can-you-refuse-to-treat-a-patient/
Well said, and many here had no question that you were showing the syringe there and did not make any allegation that it was the CEO in the image.
Shero
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Thanks @Jennina and @Shero for your photos and video, very helpful. Of course, as you can see, reality never stopped the gossip of conspiracies for those who refuse to see it. The nonsense will keep flowing, but it's good to offset it now and then with truth and facts. Civilians, front-line workers, doctors, nurses and family of members who died from COVID-19 or have loved ones in hospitals hooked up to ventilators appreciate caring folks like you who want fellow Americans to stay alive and healthy. Thanks again.
I share your frustration Seabreeze. I cannot begin to understand the mentality of people who spread such bizarre misinformation!
Butterfly
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Here, too. And they are being sticklers for what kind of mask; if they don't think the one you are wearing is adequate, they'll give you one that is and insist you wear that one. Also, only patients are being allowed in, with the exceptions of parents of children with appointments and carers of those who actually require physical assistance.
Butterfly
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The matter has already been decided by the Supreme Court.
The 1905 Supreme Court decision in the case Jacobson v. Massachusetts. The court ruled against a man who had refused to be vaccinated against smallpox, stating: "Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own (liberty), whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others." The Supreme Court explicitly upheld vaccine mandates against deadly diseases in Jacobson, where it explained: "the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand."
They have never questioned the type of mask (N95) I was wearing at my appointments. And let me say that I'm just glad that I'm still alive; and yes, we have lost friends to Covid-19.
I imagine the N95 is the preferred quality of mask Pam. I've only used cloth masks and disposable masks.....but I haven't had to go to a doctor's office since the covid, except at a Kaiser facility for my Moderna vaccinations, twice.
At times when my sinuses are driving me nuts and I can't breath... I will wear the disposable masks.
Irwin
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Personally, I don't think people should be forced to get vaccinated. That goes beyond what the government should be able to tell us to do. Wear a mask, sure, since that's just temporary, but vaccine mandates for everyone crosses the line for government unless it's for work or access to public areas or the military. And private businesses should be allowed to mandate vaccines and fire anyone who won't comply.
And for those who won't get vaccinated, perhaps they should be required to pay extra taxes since they're costing the rest of us a lot of money, and if someone gets sick or dies due to their selfish behavior, they should face criminal prosecution and civil lawsuits.
But I don't think in general, governments should mandate vaccines.
I wear a mask where it's required, including a doctor's or optometrist's office.
But I only wear MY mask that I sterilize with alcohol after each use & before wearing it again. If someone gave me a mask, I'd say "No thanks." I would have no way of knowing what it touched, where it was stored, or who wore it. Really stupid to put a mask on your face that someone hands you.
Butterfly
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In the clinic mentioned, the masks are kept sterile and handed to you by a nurse wearing gloves and a mask. You either wear their mask or you don't get past the front security desk.
Pauline, I'm sure you mean well, but please work on improving your "research" techniques before spreading any more lies being generated by the lunatic fringe. You could be doing immeasurable harm by spreading false gossip.
Win, your posts on this subject are getting more and more ridiculous as time goes one. The wrong syringe, really?
Win, your posts on this subject are getting more and more ridiculous as time goes one. The wrong syringe, really?