It's in mens DNA

Alligatorob said:
You've burst my bubble, was getting excited about being 90...
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Not to worry. No matter what @Della says, Hugh Hefner's girls were not prostitutes. The girls come from all over the world and they actively seek out some way of meeting Hugh Hefner. (at least they did before he passed on a few years ago.) The competition for Playmate of the Month is fierce.

As an aside: I recently watch a 1 hour Tv show about Hugh Hefner's life. He had the same secretary for at least the last 40 years that I know of. She said, (regarding the Hefner Mansion)"The girls run this house. If anyone gets out of line with any one of them. She can report it, and that guy will be banned for life from ever attending any of Mr. Hefner's events." She went on to say that there is a DNA list. (do not admit). The security at the Hefner Mansion was one of the most strict in the world. Nobody got passed the main gate without being vetted by security.
 
I don't think women are attracted to just men with money or handsome. What always attracted me to a man was his personality. I can't answer what attracts a man to a woman though.
 

Sassycakes said:
What always attracted me to a man was his personality. I can't answer what attracts a man to a woman though.
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It is pretty much the same for many men, I know it is for me.

However until you get to know someone and their personality it is other physical traits that attract. And that can result in how you choose the people you get to know well enough to decide if they have an attractive personality. So on TV or in pictures where we don't really get to know personalities its pretty much the physical appearance that attracts, or doesn't.
 
Alligatorob said:
It is pretty much the same for many men, I know it is for me.

However until you get to know someone and their personality it is other physical traits that attract. And that can result in how you choose the people you get to know well enough to decide if they have an attractive personality. So on TV or in pictures where we don't really get to know personalities its pretty much the physical appearance that attracts, or doesn't.
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Spot on , Alligatorob. That is precisely why so very many women go to so much trouble to look as beautiful/sexy as possible. There is a reason why they call them "Beauty Salons". Not to mention the clothing women wear ie; the plunging neckline, slit skirts, and skin tight pants, that look as if she had been melted and poured into them.
 
senior chef said:
Not to worry. No matter what @Della says, Hugh Hefner's girls were not prostitutes. The girls come from all over the world and they actively seek out some way of meeting Hugh Hefner. (at least they did before he passed on a few years ago.) The competition for Playmate of the Month is fierce.

As an aside: I recently watch a 1 hour Tv show about Hugh Hefner's life. He had the same secretary for at least the last 40 years that I know of. She said, (regarding the Hefner Mansion)"The girls run this house. If anyone gets out of line with any one of them. She can report it, and that guy will be banned for life from ever attending any of Mr. Hefner's events." She went on to say that there is a DNA list. (do not admit). The security at the Hefner Mansion was one of the most strict in the world. Nobody got passed the main gate without being vetted by security.
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I read my first biography about Hefner way back in the seventies. He had a smart idea to bring the porn magazines from the back of the rack toward the front with " the girl next door look" of his early magazines. They were geared toward younger men and the tone of the magazine was made to encourage the buyer to think of himself, not as a furtive loser who could only look, but as a sophisticated martini drinker who lived in a penthouse and dated beautiful women -- whether he was actually a pimply face kid or not. Hefner worked hard, got lucky building his business just as the sexual revolution was taking place, and made a fortune.

He was still a pornographer and pimp and the women who worked for him were still prostitutes. Yes they come from all over the world and yes they compete to be selected for the magazine. It's about as high as a you can go in that world. But if you're living in the mansion for free in exchange for attending the weekly orgies and performing for Hefner and his celebrity friends. You're really no different than the women who work the truck stops. Just probably prettier.
 
Della said:
I read my first biography about Hefner way back in the seventies. He had a smart idea to bring the porn magazines from the back of the rack toward the front with " the girl next door look" of his early magazines. They were geared toward younger men and the tone of the magazine was made to encourage the buyer to think of himself, not as a furtive loser who could only look, but as a sophisticated martini drinker who lived in a penthouse and dated beautiful women -- whether he was actually a pimply face kid or not. Hefner worked hard, got lucky building his business just as the sexual revolution was taking place, and made a fortune.

He was still a pornographer and pimp and the women who worked for him were still prostitutes. Yes they come from all over the world and yes they compete to be selected for the magazine. It's about as high as a you can go in that world. But if you're living in the mansion for free in exchange for attending the weekly orgies and performing for Hefner and his celebrity friends. You're really no different than the women who work the truck stops. Just probably prettier.
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Della, you haven't the faintest idea of what you are talking about. My advice ? Calm down !
 
Della said:
I couldn't be calmer, Senior Chef. You're the one who sounds like you've just been told there's no Santa Claus. Read "Down the Rabbit Hole" and get another angle on that flattering documentary your watched.
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Think what you wish. It does not matter on tiny bit to me.
BUT, if you think you are going to change men in the slightest degree, you are the delusional one.
 
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Change men? What did I say that sounded like I wanted to change men?

I just have a thing for preference for calling things by their proper name. Men like Hugh Hefner ( not men in general but pimps who use young women for profit) recruit 18 year old girls with a lot of fast talk and offers of fame and money and when the girls age out of the business at about 25 years of age they are often left drug addicted and with a future marred by the pictorial evidence of their past.

They may make it to college but they always have to worry if they're going to get that job or not, if someone recognizes them from the magazine. If they marry and settle down they have to worry that their kids might be sitting in junior high class when some boy starts passing a center fold of their mother around.

A huge proportion of these young women already have a sad background of abuse, many are runaways and their self-esteem is at rock bottom when the Hefner types come along.
 
@Della , spew forth your venom if you must, but there can be no denying that Hefner was on the right side of history.
Using the Playboy editorials as a sounding board, Hugh Hefner was a powerful advocate of women's reproductive rights, gay rights, free speech and the rights of blacks.
 
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Chef, you are unwise to dismiss Della's contribution to this thread just because it doesn't fit with your point of view. Hugh Hefner and Jeffery Epstein were two of a kind. I suggest that everything in the garden of delights that they created looks lovely until someone turns over a few rocks and a lot of nasties crawl out.
 
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The big trouble when some men idolise the things Hugh Hefner stands for in respect of women, is they have a very sad outlook on life. They have no idea of what a woman of character looks like, and therefore they cannot relate to decent women.

Unfortunately when that happens, they invade other countries and take the advantage of young girls living in poverty and ruin them for life.
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Warrigal said:
Chef, you are unwise to dismiss Della's contribution to this thread just because it doesn't fit with your point of view. Hugh Hefner and Jeffery Epstein were two of a kind. I suggest that everything in the garden of delights that they created looks lovely until someone turns over a few rocks and a lot of nasties crawl out.
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Hefner seems to be his hero, perhaps dreams of being like him when he grows up. :D
 
Shero said:
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The big trouble when some men idolise the things Hugh Hefner stands for in respect of women, is they have a very sad outlook on life. They have no idea of what a woman of character looks like, and therefore they cannot relate to decent women.

Unfortunately when that happens, they invade other countries and take the advantage of young girls living in poverty and ruin them for life.
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Well said.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Hefner seems to be his hero, perhaps dreams of being like him when he grows up. :D
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If he is to be honest, is there any man on the planet who would pass up an opportunity to bed a thousand of the worlds most beautiful women ?

Even the Muslims believe that if he dies for Allah, he will get 72 virgins in the next life.

"It's in men's DNA"
 
senior chef said:
If he is to be honest, is there any man on the planet who would pass up an opportunity to bed a thousand of the worlds most beautiful women ?

Even the Muslims believe that if he dies for Allah, he will get 72 virgins in the next life.

"It's in men's DNA"
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A real man with a fulfilling life and loving relationship with a woman who has intelligence, class and inner and outer beauty would not even consider bedding down with those women. My husband would pass up that "opportunity", he's not so desperate and frustrated as some. Beauty is not only on the outside, what is inside is most appreciated and valued by real men. Figures you'd throw one of your racist nuggets in your reply, sorry, I don't stoop so low.
 
SeaBreeze said:
A real man with a fulfilling life and loving relationship with a woman who has intelligence, class and inner and outer beauty would not even consider bedding down with those women. My husband would pass up that "opportunity", he's not so desperate and frustrated as some. Beauty is not only on the outside, what is inside is most appreciated and valued by real men. Figures you'd throw one of your racist nuggets in your reply, sorry, I don't stoop so low.
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Yes, by all means, let's hear a woman tell us what goes on in the minds of men . Ha ha ha
Jeez, talk about arrogance .
 
SeaBreeze said:
A real man with a fulfilling life and loving relationship with a woman who has intelligence, class and inner and outer beauty would not even consider bedding down with those women. My husband would pass up that "opportunity", he's not so desperate and frustrated as some. Beauty is not only on the outside, what is inside is most appreciated and valued by real men. Figures you'd throw one of your racist nuggets in your reply, sorry, I don't stoop so low.
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So would mon mari !!! le cook is eager to show us all his inadequacies!
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SeaBreeze said:
You telling everyone what goes on in the minds of men is even more funny......reminder, we're talking about real men here, not frustrated dreaming men who idolize people like Hefner. No disrespect to him, just to the wannabes. 🤡
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It is far, far more likely that a man understands other men much better than any woman ever could.
 

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