Rittenhouse found not guilty on all charges

Just remember, when you attack someone violently or pull a gun and aim it at them, you just may get yourself killed!

I can see this issue is political to some here and that's unfortunate. Some believe that Kyle should have layed down and let them beat him to death or blow his head off. Well, any smart kid wouldn't let that happen and he didn't! I salute you Kyle for using the sense God gave you!

I have also seen what the BLM movement protestors did in the downtown area here. Destroyed about 64 businesses-put a whole lot of people and businesses out of employment. I saw them on videotape and they were a bunch of armed thugs. I could see the anger and hatred they had. They set about 5 police cars on fire, too. That seems to be what has happened in many cities even though BLM may not have been started for that purpose.

But take away the facts of it being a BLM protest and a white kid who killed 2 people. They were all people there for a reason. Kyle R sought to help the police that were and have been getting attacked for quite awhile now. The police have been giving their lives and protecting us for a long time. And take away why he was here and then he was just a kid getting attacked and almost killed and so he Defended himself. Damn! I would do the same if I were in his shoes!
 
I didn't follow the Rittenhouse case closely, but learned bits and pieces from the news.

Here are my thoughts, and they may already have been discussed before, for which
I apologize if this is a rehash:

1) First of all, he killed two people. No matter if they accosted him, he killed them. In school fights, kids
didn't fight back bullies with guns (typically) they fight with their hands on an equal footing. Rittenhouse touting a
weapon was like a truck mowing down people standing in front of it. Too much force.
2) He put himself in harm's way by going there. If he hadn't gone there, these people would not have died.
3) He carried a weapon that he should not have been carrying.
4) In the past, minors that did violent deeds before they were adults, ended up in jail sooner or later. Is this a pattern? Time will tell. And if he does it again, all those people that acquitted him will have egg on their faces.
5) He should get some penance for killing others - maybe do community service, or something for him to learn his lesson. Watching him crying, I honestly didn't feel sorry for him. Instead, the thought occurred to me that he was more concerned about himself than about those he killed (now he may have said he was sorry, and if he did, I take #5 back).

These are my thoughts....
 
Aunt Bea said:
IMO you can’t get blood from a turnip and this kid is definitely a turnip.
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People donated nearly 1/2 million dollars to his fund, and I think the lawyers cost a little over $300k, so he has a few dollars left over.

That said, I doubt the "victim's" family would win any civil suit since the "victims" were the aggressors.
 
JimBob1952 said:
Wow. Weren't you a moderator here once? Glad you are so objective.

What "business" did the others have there? Were they trying to put out fires? Was Rosenbaum looking for some children to rape? Was Huber looking for some good spots for skateboarding? This was a violent riot, not a "protest." Grosskreutz had a semi-automatic pistol (expired permit) and by his own testimony pointed it at Rittenhouse before he was shot. Standing around with a rifle, ostensibly to protect property, as Rittenhouse was doing is as legitimate "business" as setting dumpster fires. And the rioters initiated violent contact. Even the prosecution didn't claim Rittenhouse was there to "hunt" anybody.

BTW as far as anybody knows, Rittenhouse had no contact with Proud Boys until four months AFTER the shooting. That's when he allowed them to take his picture in a bar where he was having a beer with his mother. So that is basically a full of s___ argument.
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First of all, my having been a moderator here has nothing to do with this Rittenhouse murder trial, and by the way, I am objective.

There is no doubt that the others involved were scum, but Rittenhouse still should not have shown up there with a semi-automatic rifle strapped to his chest. If he didn't arrive looking for action, he wouldn't have had to murder two people in self defense.

Just like Zimmerman followed his victim with his gun on his person, even though the cops told him to back off, and ended up taking a life in self defense. Had Zimmerman let the cops do their job, Martin would still be breathing today.

Rittenhouse was hot to use his weapon on somebody, or it wouldn't have been strapped to his chest. Posing with the Proud Boys the way he did was very telling, whether he knew them or not before he killed in Kenosha. I wouldn't pose with people like that, wouldn't want to be associated with them at all.

We don't need gun nutters who want to feel important in this country going around killing people with their weapons. The amount of homegrown terrorists of late is appalling. That's not the kind of country I grew up in or want to live in.
 
palides2021 said:
I didn't follow the Rittenhouse case closely, but learned bits and pieces from the news.

Here are my thoughts, and they may already have been discussed before, for which
I apologize if this is a rehash:

1) First of all, he killed two people. No matter if they accosted him, he killed them. In school fights, kids
didn't fight back bullies with guns (typically) they fight with their hands on an equal footing. Rittenhouse touting a
weapon was like a truck mowing down people standing in front of it. Too much force.
2) He put himself in harm's way by going there. If he hadn't gone there, these people would not have died.
3) He carried a weapon that he should not have been carrying.
4) In the past, minors that did violent deeds before they were adults, ended up in jail sooner or later. Is this a pattern? Time will tell. And if he does it again, all those people that acquitted him will have egg on their faces.
5) He should get some penance for killing others - maybe do community service, or something for him to learn his lesson. Watching him crying, I honestly didn't feel sorry for him. Instead, the thought occurred to me that he was more concerned about himself than about those he killed (now he may have said he was sorry, and if he did, I take #5 back).

These are my thoughts....
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1. In school fights neither combatant (usually) has a weapon. A skateboard is a deadly weapon when used to hit someone in the head. That's why deadly force was justified.
2. Going there was stupid, but not illegal. Being stupid is not a crime.
3. The weapon he was openly carrying was legal to openly carry in that state. However, the concealed handgun Grosskruetz pointed at Kyle before he was shot was not legal because his concealed carry permit was expired - which is the same as not having one. Therefore, the only person who should not have been carrying a gun was Grosskruetz.
5. Kyle is sorry - sorry that he was forced to defend himself.
 
SeaBreeze said:
That's unfortunate, but not unexpected. He's one step closer to being an official violent Proud Boy. I'm more concerned of the outcome of those charged with the murder of Mr. Arbery. Those racist inbreds who hunted down and murdered another innocent black American have to be held accountable. Too many modern day lynchings in this country between the cops and the racist inbreds. Too many armed vigilantes violating our laws and acting out on their racism and deep-seated hatred and anger.
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Me too, but the Prosecution on the Arbery case seems to be pretty strong. She got the son who shot Ahmad to admit Mr. Abery never attacked him or tried to take his gun. He was actually trying to run away. In my view, that makes it cold-blooded murder. I am devastated every time I see the video clip and see those 3 White Supremacist imbeciles sitting in court.
 
SeaBreeze said:
First of all, my having been a moderator here has nothing to do with this Rittenhouse murder trial, and by the way, I am objective.

There is no doubt that the others involved were scum, but Rittenhouse still should not have shown up there with a semi-automatic rifle strapped to his chest. If he didn't arrive looking for action, he wouldn't have had to murder two people in self defense.

Just like Zimmerman followed his victim with his gun on his person, even though the cops told him to back off, and ended up taking a life in self defense. Had Zimmerman let the cops do their job, Martin would still be breathing today.

Rittenhouse was hot to use his weapon on somebody, or it wouldn't have been strapped to his chest. Posing with the Proud Boys the way he did was very telling, whether he knew them or not before he killed in Kenosha. I wouldn't pose with people like that, wouldn't want to be associated with them at all.

We don't need gun nutters who want to feel important in this country going around killing people with their weapons. The amount of homegrown terrorists of late is appalling. That's not the kind of country I grew up in or want to live in.
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Had Martin ignored Zimmerman & just continued walking instead of assaulting him, Martin would still be breathing today.
Zimmerman is stupid; just as Rittenhouse is stupid. But being stupid is not a crime. Attacking someone is.
 
dseag2 said:
Me too, but the Prosecution on the Arbery case seems to be pretty strong. She got the son who shot Ahmad to admit Mr. Abery never attacked him or tried to take his gun. He was actually trying to run away. In my view, that makes it cold-blooded murder. I am devastated every time I see the video clip and see those 3 White Supremacist imbeciles sitting in court.
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Couldn't agree more. I hope justice is served for the killing of Mr. Arbery. This case makes me sick, but we see things like this happen over and over again. Racism is alive and well in America, and as far as we've come as a nation, that is heartbreaking.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Couldn't agree more. I hope justice is served for the killing of Mr. Arbery. This case makes me sick, but we see things like this happen over and over again. Racism is alive and well in America, and as far as we've come as a nation, that is heartbreaking.
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I know I'm highjacking the thread, but the Elijah McClain case is the most heartbreaking I've ever seen. He used to play music for animals in shelters to make them feel better. He was a sensitive, autistic person. The police were responsible for his death for absolutely no reason.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56134565
 
win231 said:
Had Martin ignored Zimmerman & just continued walking instead of assaulting him, Martin would still be breathing today.
Zimmerman is stupid; just as Rittenhouse is stupid. But being stupid is not a crime. Attacking someone is.
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Yeah, attacking someone violently is very stupid--and you get what's coming to you when you do==I'm talking of the KR issue here. I'm glad this teenager had the sense to be able to defend himself and some think he had no right to defend himself because he was there. He did everything legal including defending himself. I saw Kyle on tv and he seemed like a really likable person only out to defend himself.

Everyone's got an opinion, though, that's for sure. They have their right to it, too.
 
Nathan said:
No doubt Rittenhouse's victim's / victim's family will pursue justice in civil court, in the absence of justice in today's verdict.
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Rittenhouse will also almost certainly pursue media anti-defamation lawsuits. Corporate media have deeper pockets -- just ask Nick Sandmann, whom CNN made $250 million richer.
 
dseag2 said:
I know I'm highjacking the thread, but the Elijah McClain case is the most heartbreaking I've ever seen. He used to play music for animals in shelters to make them feel better. He was a sensitive, autistic person. The police were responsible for his death for absolutely no reason.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56134565
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SeaBreeze said:
First of all, my having been a moderator here has nothing to do with this Rittenhouse murder trial, and by the way, I am objective.

There is no doubt that the others involved were scum, but Rittenhouse still should not have shown up there with a semi-automatic rifle strapped to his chest. If he didn't arrive looking for action, he wouldn't have had to murder two people in self defense.

Just like Zimmerman followed his victim with his gun on his person, even though the cops told him to back off, and ended up taking a life in self defense. Had Zimmerman let the cops do their job, Martin would still be breathing today.

Rittenhouse was hot to use his weapon on somebody, or it wouldn't have been strapped to his chest. Posing with the Proud Boys the way he did was very telling, whether he knew them or not before he killed in Kenosha. I wouldn't pose with people like that, wouldn't want to be associated with them at all.

We don't need gun nutters who want to feel important in this country going around killing people with their weapons. The amount of homegrown terrorists of late is appalling. That's not the kind of country I grew up in or want to live in.
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Your post is absurd. Grosskreutz was carrying a Glock. So by your logic "he shouldn't have shown up there with a semi-automatic" and "he was looking for action." Which he was -- like the other idiots, he was there to burn and loot, or to help those involved in burning and looting.

Had the cops done their jobs -- protecting businesses and property, and arresting rioters -- then bozos like Rittenhouse would have had no need to become "vigilantes." And by the way, you can't "murder two people in self defense." If it's self-defense, then it's not murder. Hence the jury verdict.
 
JimBob1952 said:
Your post is absurd. Grosskreutz was carrying a Glock. So by your logic "he shouldn't have shown up there with a semi-automatic" and "he was looking for action." Which he was -- like the other idiots, he was there to burn and loot, or to help those involved in burning and looting.

Had the cops done their jobs -- protecting businesses and property, and arresting rioters -- then bozos like Rittenhouse would have had no need to become "vigilantes." And by the way, you can't "murder two people in self defense." If it's self-defense, then it's not murder. Hence the jury verdict.
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We don't need aggressive violent gun nutters shooting each other down (or innocent bystanders) in our streets. We don't need vigilantes puffing themselves up, well no matter what guns they have, I'll show up with my bad a$$ semi-automatic. That is insane! I'm sick of all the shootings and death in this country, whether by cops or citizens.

Let the cops take care of anything that needs to be addressed, not these wannabe cops or Proud Boys. None of the armed idiots should have been there including Rittenhouse. There should have been nobody killed on that day. If Rittenhouse showed up with a semi-auto strapped to his chest and his skin was brown, he'd be the one who was dead, the cops would have taken care on him immediately. Way too many people dead due to gun nuts who want to take the law into their own hands.

Rittenhouse went there looking for trouble so he could use his new toy, just like Mr. Arbery's killers hunted him down and shot him in cold blood. I'm more concerned that justice is served in that case though because there was no excuse for the murderers, there was no self defense, they were hot to use their guns on a black American and another life has been lost due to it.
 
dseag2 said:
I know I'm highjacking the thread, but the Elijah McClain case is the most heartbreaking I've ever seen. He used to play music for animals in shelters to make them feel better. He was a sensitive, autistic person. The police were responsible for his death for absolutely no reason.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56134565
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I feel the same way. Another tragic loss of a precious life, may he rest peacefully, my heart and sympathy goes out to his family. :(
 
In a society that glorifies violence , with television and movies that readily depict killing, rape, and war and the masculine strong man wins, or the fastest gun is a hero, and activist judges and lawmakers on both sides of the fence manipulating justice to fit their power agendas and stay in the money...it is no wonder that human well being is not on the table. There is no justice when the courts are crawling with millions of cases that are travesties for many people, especially if their actions are part of the judges bias.
 
SeaBreeze said:
We don't need aggressive violent gun nutters shooting each other down (or innocent bystanders) in our streets. We don't need vigilantes puffing themselves up, well no matter what guns they have, I'll show up with my bad a$$ semi-automatic. That is insane! I'm sick of all the shootings and death in this country, whether by cops or citizens.

Let the cops take care of anything that needs to be addressed, not these wannabe cops or Proud Boys. None of the armed idiots should have been there including Rittenhouse. There should have been nobody killed on that day. If Rittenhouse showed up with a semi-auto strapped to his chest and his skin was brown, he'd be the one who was dead, the cops would have taken care on him immediately. Way too many people dead due to gun nuts who want to take the law into their own hands.

Rittenhouse went there looking for trouble so he could use his new toy, just like Mr. Arbery's killers hunted him down and shot him in cold blood. I'm more concerned that justice is served in that case though because there was no excuse for the murderers, there was no self defense, they were hot to use their guns on a black American and another life has been lost due to it.
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If you're saying there should have been no rioting that day, then I agree with you. I would very much like to see justice served in the Arbery case, as well, and see no justification for the actions of the accused.
 
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