How many have to die before we finally do what needs to be done?

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Well, if you believe that a person has absolute control of their own body, as in "My body, my choice," then it must apply to all choices one makes about their own body -- including the right to have an abortion. You can't have it both ways.
My goodness everybody is so touchy. rgp wasn't trying to steal a saying my body my choice. Nor was he laying exclusive rights to use that saying. I'm sure someone some where in the 1700's, 1800's or before has said my body my choice when regarding something to do about their body. Anyone has the right to use that saying, it doesn't take away from its use or meaning regarding abortion.
 

Had reason to visit my GP (non covid related) and was able to make appointments for Wednesday week for our third Covid jabs (boosters). We could have had them in two days but too close to Christmas and too busy. In the meantime I am being extra cautious because I am hosting my family on Boxing Day and there is no way I want to be told to self isolate if I come into contact with someone who has Covid.

Infection rates are climbing alarmingly in my state right now. We had it beaten right down until the borders were reopened and omicron came to stay. This is going on as restrictions about masks, social distancing and QR code checkins are no longer mandatory. Our vaccine/booster programs have been too slow off the mark and young people are throwing caution to the winds intent on having a good time celebrating the Summer holidays without a care in the world. It is a big worry and 2022 is going to be sad and difficult for many.NSW surge.jpg
 
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Well, if you believe that a person has absolute control of their own body, as in "My body, my choice," then it must apply to all choices one makes about their own body -- including the right to have an abortion. You can't have it both ways.
I absolutely believe that @rpg has a right to an abortion. 😂. RPG will probably have to leave Texas to get one. 😊. However, rpg should “coin” an original slogan “my body, my choice” is already in use.

Plus I thought rpg was male and, no matter what his sex, too old to get pregnant. But I’ve been wrong before. So, congrats rpg. Are you hoping for a boy or a girl?
 

My goodness everybody is so touchy. rgp wasn't trying to steal a saying my body my choice. Nor was he laying exclusive rights to use that saying. I'm sure someone some where in the 1700's, 1800's or before has said my body my choice when regarding something to do about their body. Anyone has the right to use that saying, it doesn't take away from its use or meaning regarding abortion.
Well, he stole it and now he’s stuck with it. There are some labels you just can’t get rid of no matter how hard you try. He is SF’s “my body my choice” poster guy. So, I agree @Becky1951. He can use that phrase as much as he wants. 😂😂😂
 
We always knew there were dick-heads in the world, but it took the pandemic for the anti-vaxxers to expose themselves as such.


When one of limited intelligence runs out of reasonable thought & retort to a discussion , they quite often ...... as displayed here ....... resort to gutter talk & name calling.

Do you know any of the reasons that a person might have for refusing the jab ? I'll venture a guess that you do not ..... Above all your opinion should be all important & your way should be the only way. Correct ?
 
My goodness everybody is so touchy. rgp wasn't trying to steal a saying my body my choice. Nor was he laying exclusive rights to use that saying. I'm sure someone some where in the 1700's, 1800's or before has said my body my choice when regarding something to do about their body. Anyone has the right to use that saying, it doesn't take away from its use or meaning regarding abortion.

Very well said ........ And Thank You.
 
From what I keep hearing, this new variant is much more contagious but .... not near as severe. It is said that it is not much [if any] worse than a cold. And yet they keep saying that the hospitals are again becoming over crowded to the point that some states are calling out the National Guard ??!!

So ..... people are flooding the hospitals because they have a bad cold ?!

And just what is the N/Guard supposed to do ? Doing ?
 
From what I keep hearing, this new variant is much more contagious but .... not near as severe. It is said that it is not much [if any] worse than a cold. And yet they keep saying that the hospitals are again becoming over crowded to the point that some states are calling out the National Guard ??!!

So ..... people are flooding the hospitals because they have a bad cold ?!

And just what is the N/Guard supposed to do ? Doing ?
The national guard has doctors, nurses, and a complete range of medical personnel that can be deployed to the places were they are needed most. The National Guard is “supposed” to do as they are ordered to do. They cannot “quit”as some medical personnel have.

They can, of course, refuse to obey orders and go to jail for that refusal. After all it’s their body and their choice 😂 as to how they spend the rest of their life.
 
When one of limited intelligence runs out of reasonable thought & retort to a discussion , they quite often ...... as displayed here ....... resort to gutter talk & name calling.

Do you know any of the reasons that a person might have for refusing the jab ? I'll venture a guess that you do not ..... Above all your opinion should be all important & your way should be the only way. Correct ?
And they use words like “limited intelligence” and infer that people don’t know “how to read”, 🤦🏻‍♀️, while using phrases that relate to other matters. 😂😂😂. People that live in glass houses should not throw stones, just my opinion, of course.
 
And they use words like “limited intelligence” and infer that people don’t know “how to read”, 🤦🏻‍♀️, while using phrases that relate to other matters. 😂😂😂. People that live in glass houses should not throw stones, just my opinion, of course.

Limited intelligence is ........ two words . I never infered that anyone didn't know how to read. Many phrases refer to many matters . No glass house here. ..... jmo.
 
Limited intelligence is ........ two words . I never infered that anyone didn't know how to read. Many phrases refer to many matters . No glass house here. ..... jmo.
So I said “words”, which means more than one word which means two or more words so what do you mean? And not all comments made refer to you. Everyone lives in a glass house @rgp or are you claiming to be perfect? Cause that would be a whole new conversation 😊
 
When one of limited intelligence runs out of reasonable thought & retort to a discussion , they quite often ...... as displayed here ....... resort to gutter talk & name calling.

Do you know any of the reasons that a person might have for refusing the jab ? I'll venture a guess that you do not ..... Above all your opinion should be all important & your way should be the only way. Correct ?
I agree I was a bit strong with my message and I meant no offense, but the unvaccinated are hosts where mutations like omicron can occur when they get covid, and if mutations keep occurring, we'll never be done with it. My apologies for my language.
 
It took years to develop the polio vaccine. It took months to develop the Covid vaccine.


https://www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline/polio
Exactly Becky.......you’ve just hit the nail on the head.......


And also marciks .....Im fed up and sick to death , of seeing my friends who have had this poison stuck in them, for others peoples benefit , slowing dying ,and very ill !! And dead !!
 
You are unbelievable Becky. It is quite clear you know nothing of the steps vaccine development goes through in our modern scientific times. Yet!! you argue, why? is it because you do not want to help humanity? what is your real reason?

The covid vaccine already had a blueprint and was more than half way, much more than Sars had. Vaccines, like any scientific studies, do not start from scratch, they build on each other, so fruition comes quicker.

Yo will no doubt ignore this knowledge I am imparting to you and so will Chic. So be it!!!
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It looks to me Shero, that you also know nothing about the development either........!!!

Go ahead and have this poison inserted into you, the booster only took a month to produce , because the other 2 vaccines were useless.............next.....another variant........then another booster............Are you gonna keep having these top ups of useless serum ??

Helping humanity ! You say ? Humanity doesn't want to help itself , it seems to me !!
 
It looks to me Shero, that you also know nothing about the development either........!!!

Go ahead and have this poison inserted into you, the booster only took a month to produce , because the other 2 vaccines were useless.............next.....another variant........then another booster............Are you gonna keep having these top ups of useless serum ??

Helping humanity ! You say ? Humanity doesn't want to help itself , it seems to me !!
I, for one, will keep having as many boosters as possible or needed. As will my children. I do not feel as if I have been poisoned so while the vaccines may be poisonous to you, they are not poisonous to me. The booster “did not take only a month to produce”. 😂. The booster is the same formula as the original shots so it was already ”produced” and is continually made.

I will tell you what is poisonous when it enters your body. COVID is poisonous.
 
I agree I was a bit strong with my message and I meant no offense, but the unvaccinated are hosts where mutations like omicron can occur when they get covid, and if mutations keep occurring, we'll never be done with it. My apologies for my language.


"unvaccinated are hosts" ?

How is it then that Elizabeth Warren was vaxxed & boosted & still caught the Omicron variant ?

How did a friend of mine , who was vaxxed just die from Covid ?

It appears too me that the vaccination may not be all it is said to be .......... in terms of protection.
 
The national guard has doctors, nurses, and a complete range of medical personnel that can be deployed to the places were they are needed most. The National Guard is “supposed” to do as they are ordered to do. They cannot “quit”as some medical personnel have.

They can, of course, refuse to obey orders and go to jail for that refusal. After all it’s their body and their choice 😂 as to how they spend the rest of their life.

How is the N/Guard going to help the [so-called] hospital bed shortage ? Which the news claims is the purpose for their call out . And again, why are people flooding hospitals for what appeasrs to be nothing more than a severe cold? .........[speaking of the new variant]
 
Everyone lives in a glass house @rgp or are you claiming to be perfect?

I don't live in a glass house and don't put poisons in my body either. :)

I do not feel as if I have been poisoned so while the vaccines may be poisonous to you, they are not poisonous to me.

That's only your perception, not a fact. The fact is that the so called vaccinations do contain well known poisons.

I will tell you what is poisonous when it enters your body. COVID is poisonous.

Covid is not a poison, and has never been isolated apart from human genetic material. Therefore, if it does exist,
then it is and always has been a natural and beneficial part of human genetic material, <-- and therefore can't be a virus.

how do explain the fact that there are 20 times the number of deaths from Covid among the unvaccinated, as opposed to the vaccinated? (That was on the news yesterday.) Nearly all the severe cases and deaths are among the unvaccinated. The people flooding the hospitals are the unvaccinated.

That's easy to explain by the fact that you make up lies and post them like they're facts, like the one you told about me yesterday.
 
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I, for one, will keep having as many boosters as possible or needed. As will my children. I do not feel as if I have been poisoned so while the vaccines may be poisonous to you, they are not poisonous to me. The booster “did not take only a month to produce”. 😂. The booster is the same formula as the original shots so it was already ”produced” and is continually made.

I will tell you what is poisonous when it enters your body. COVID is poisonous.


"so while the vaccines may be poisonous to you, they are not poisonous to me. "

Exactly !!! And that is where choices are made. If a person [you for example] feels it is right for you .... then by all means take it. I and I'm sure all others here wish the very best for you.

All I say is give those that choose not to the same courtesy of choice.
 
If we believe the numbers, the vaccine is 0% effective in both.
Really, Win? So then, how do explain the fact that there are 20 times the number of deaths from Covid among the unvaccinated, as opposed to the vaccinated? (That was on the news yesterday.)

How many times must it be repeated? Yes, if you are vaccinated, you can get a breakthrough (mild) case. Nearly all the severe cases and deaths are among the unvaccinated. The people flooding the hospitals are the unvaccinated. Read the statistics, man.
 
Really, Win? So then, how do explain the fact that there are 20 times the number of deaths from Covid among the unvaccinated, as opposed to the vaccinated? (That was on the news yesterday.)

How many times must it be repeated? Yes, if you are vaccinated, you can get a breakthrough (mild) case. Nearly all the severe cases and deaths are among the unvaccinated. The people flooding the hospitals are the unvaccinated. Read the statistics, man.
The "News" people report whatever they are told to report. Doesn't make it true........unless you're OK with being programmed. Which you obviously are.
Dolly Parton also sang a song about getting vaccinated. Does that make her qualified to give medical advice?
I'm selling some valuable land in the desert. Can I interest you in it?
 
How is the N/Guard going to help the [so-called] hospital bed shortage ? Which the news claims is the purpose for their call out . And again, why are people flooding hospitals for what appeasrs to be nothing more than a severe cold? .........[speaking of the new variant]
OMGosh, think before you write or learn to Google.

The military and the National Guard have, wait for it, hospital tents. Used to be called MASH units have no ideal what they are called now. The Red Cross also has these. These units come with beds and operating rooms and most everything else needed.

How do you think deployed military get ER medical care when deployed to other countries and on a battlefield? How do you think Doctors Without Borders operate? Where have you been all your life that you do not know this? And, if you do now know this stuff, why are you writing about it?

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