Ghislaine Maxwell found guilty of supplying girls for financier Jeffrey Epstein

If she is guilty ? ....... which apparently the jury believed, then I suppose she will meet her fate.

But ..... What about all the celebrities and politicians said to have visited the island / flew on the plane ? Shouldn't they too face some sort of prosecution ?

And no, I do not think Epstein committed suicide. IMO he was slienced.
 
Now, she will probably name names to get her sentence reduced.
this is what the press are saying..however..I think she's now caught between a rock and a hard place.. if she grasses on others , someone will arrange for her to go the way of her boyfriend when she gets out or even before.. or conversely she doesn't name anyone and relies on her very expensive lawyers to get her the minimum time....

I think she'll wait to see what her sentence will be.. if she gets less than 10 years, she'll be out in 4 or 5.. and she won't name anyone... if she gets the full 9 yards.. then she may agree to co-operate at her first appeal ..

..all that said... if these particular celebrities, royals ( from several countries).. and politicians haven't been named during Maxwells' trial by the victims.. then it would be very difficult for the prosecution to prove that these others were involved in any way, so I can't imagine that she will get any reduction for naming others...it also means that if she doesn't.. it wil suit her , because she can continue to stay in that secret paedophile, circle.. when she is released....because for sure, she's going to be rotten meat by any of the upper social echelon to which she's been used to being a part of all of her life..
 
..in our media it states she's facing up to 60 years...

Ghislaine Maxwell has been found guilty of sex trafficking and other charges. After six days of deliberation, a jury of six men and six women found the British socialite guilty on five of six counts - all except enticing an individual under the age of 17 to travel to with intent to engage in illegal sex acts. She faces a maximum sentence of 60 years in prison. It was a sensational trial filled with tearful testimony, a trove of never-before-seen photos submitted into evidence, and shocking claims that the British socialite was a 'sophisticated predator'. From the beginning of the trial that kicked off on November 29, Maxwell remained relaxed and confident, giving hugs to her lawyers or waving to her sister Isabel in the public gallery. She wore a series of turtleneck sweaters and was noticeably tactile with her attorneys, often putting her arm around them in a gesture they reciprocated. Maxwell barely reacted when her accusers took the stand to testify of the horrific abuse at the hands of her and Jeffrey Epstein

Maxwell did not appear to react to the verdict and after they were read out by Judge Alison Nathan she calmly opened a bottle of water and poured herself a glass.

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I don't understand why she was found not guilty of Count 2. Anyway...that she was found guilty on the other charges....

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I don't understand why she was found not guilty of Count 2. Anyway...that she was found guilty on the other charges....

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Counts 2 and 4 are concerning the complainant known as Jane only. Count 2 concerns the criminal element of Enticing, not guilty. Count 4 concerns the criminal element of Transportation, guilty. Every element of an offense must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. You notice each charge concerns only conduct of Maxwell between 1994-1997. Let us assume that Count could not be proven within that time frame, but after or before!! That could be 1 reason of aquittal? Others being the element itself was not proven!
 
I saw a story on this the women was hidden and voice altered but the whole thing had a few red flags... think of these girls 14-17 years of age

The girl said she was approached by Ms Maxwell in a car that pulled over on side of road....... guess there was a pitch as if she was being recruited for a modeling job.... promising big money
Girl was invited to some party and by end of evening was asked to massage Epstein in his underwear... left with $300 or so ...she was re-invited for the next weekend and asked to bring her sister...
Then the next part of the "modeling ruse' they flew to a private island for long weekends .....
where were parents who would let girls go into this un-escorted if they too bought the modeling bit.

Maybe i am just more skeptical but i see red flags all over this as in many many kids in trouble situations.
 
Snippet...from this mornings' media..

“Whereas Epstein brought the cash, Maxwell brought the contacts.


“She opened up a world to her then-lover he could only have dreamt of.


“Epstein was socially awkward. Some say inept. He didn’t mix well.


“But with Maxwell by his side, she gave him cover and credibility with the rich and famous.


“He was accepted into their world not because of money but because of her.


“She provided most of the numbers in their book.

“Prosecutors in the US have made countless mistakes before where Maxwell and Epstein are concerned. Christopher Wray, the director of the FBI, has vowed that those who committed a crime with them will not escape justice under his watch.”


During Maxwell’s four-week trial in New York, the book including the names and addresses of nearly 2,000 world leaders, sportsmen, royalty, celebrities and alleged victims remained secret.


The contacts contained within it allowed Maxwell and Epstein to flourish in the world’s most elite circles.


For decades, important, influential, serious people attended their dinner parties, rode his private ‘Lolita Express’ jet, and furthered the fiction they were New York’s power couple.


During her trial, however, the disgraced socialite’s defence attorneys agreed with prosecutors not to release the 97-page directory to the public.


But it was made available in a previous civil case involving Andrew’s rape accuser Virginia Giuffre. The book was filled with contact details of Maxwell and Epstein’s famous friends, including the Duke and former U.S. leader Bill Clinton and Donald Trump but was only mentioned sporadically during her sex-trafficking trial.

The so-called little black book contained 301 Brits listing more than 1,000 numbers and dozens of email addresses between them.


They included countless celebrities including Mick Jagger, Simon Le Bon, Phil Collins, the late Sir David Frost, Richard Branson, Naomi Campbell, Tamara Beckwith, Jonathan Dimbleby, Lloyd Grossman and numerous lords and ladies.


Ex-British Prime Minister Tony Blair is recorded once, while his former cabinet minister Lord Peter Mandelson has ten numbers, including one marked ‘direct line’, one marked ‘home’ and one marked ‘country home’.


Princess Diana’s brother, Charles Spencer, also features.



There are 16 separate phone numbers for Prince Andrew, including a mobile phone number, one marked Palace ex-directory, one for Balmoral, the Queen’s private retreat in Scotland where the Prince invited Epstein, and one marked Sand, which appears to be Sandringham, the other royal retreat where he spent time.


Details of the book came out in court documents through litigation from Virginia Giuffre against Maxwell during their civil libel case although it had been published in the media prior to that.
 
Snippet...from this mornings' media..

“Whereas Epstein brought the cash, Maxwell brought the contacts.


“She opened up a world to her then-lover he could only have dreamt of.


“Epstein was socially awkward. Some say inept. He didn’t mix well.


“But with Maxwell by his side, she gave him cover and credibility with the rich and famous.


“He was accepted into their world not because of money but because of her.


“She provided most of the numbers in their book.

“Prosecutors in the US have made countless mistakes before where Maxwell and Epstein are concerned. Christopher Wray, the director of the FBI, has vowed that those who committed a crime with them will not escape justice under his watch.”


During Maxwell’s four-week trial in New York, the book including the names and addresses of nearly 2,000 world leaders, sportsmen, royalty, celebrities and alleged victims remained secret.


The contacts contained within it allowed Maxwell and Epstein to flourish in the world’s most elite circles.


For decades, important, influential, serious people attended their dinner parties, rode his private ‘Lolita Express’ jet, and furthered the fiction they were New York’s power couple.


During her trial, however, the disgraced socialite’s defence attorneys agreed with prosecutors not to release the 97-page directory to the public.


But it was made available in a previous civil case involving Andrew’s rape accuser Virginia Giuffre. The book was filled with contact details of Maxwell and Epstein’s famous friends, including the Duke and former U.S. leader Bill Clinton and Donald Trump but was only mentioned sporadically during her sex-trafficking trial.

The so-called little black book contained 301 Brits listing more than 1,000 numbers and dozens of email addresses between them.


They included countless celebrities including Mick Jagger, Simon Le Bon, Phil Collins, the late Sir David Frost, Richard Branson, Naomi Campbell, Tamara Beckwith, Jonathan Dimbleby, Lloyd Grossman and numerous lords and ladies.



Ex-British Prime Minister Tony Blair is recorded once, while his former cabinet minister Lord Peter Mandelson has ten numbers, including one marked ‘direct line’, one marked ‘home’ and one marked ‘country home’.


Princess Diana’s brother, Charles Spencer, also features.



There are 16 separate phone numbers for Prince Andrew, including a mobile phone number, one marked Palace ex-directory, one for Balmoral, the Queen’s private retreat in Scotland where the Prince invited Epstein, and one marked Sand, which appears to be Sandringham, the other royal retreat where he spent time.


Details of the book came out in court documents through litigation from Virginia Giuffre against Maxwell during their civil libel case although it had been published in the media prior to that.
There are many elites and famous and i think this should be released ...
It was mentioned as one of the reasons Melinda Gates.... used in her divorce from Bill Gates

people should Know just how sick some of these people are.... and they do not even blink an eye because they know money and the elite club will protect their own.
 
I saw a story on this the women was hidden and voice altered but the whole thing had a few red flags... think of these girls 14-17 years of age

The girl said she was approached by Ms Maxwell in a car that pulled over on side of road....... guess there was a pitch as if she was being recruited for a modeling job.... promising big money
Girl was invited to some party and by end of evening was asked to massage Epstein in his underwear... left with $300 or so ...she was re-invited for the next weekend and asked to bring her sister...
Then the next part of the "modeling ruse' they flew to a private island for long weekends .....
where were parents who would let girls go into this un-escorted if they too bought the modeling bit.

Maybe i am just more skeptical but i see red flags all over this as in many many kids in trouble situations.


Agree here .
 
There are many elites and famous and i think this should be released ...
It was mentioned as one of the reasons Melinda Gates.... used in her divorce from Bill Gates

people should Know just how sick some of these people are.... and they do not even blink an eye because they know money and the elite club will protect their own.

Agree here as well.
The verdict does lend credibility to claims of underage sexual trafficking, and being trafficked as a known minor.


Not sure I follow you here ?
 
The day after the Maxwell verdict it was announced it was decided that the jail guards that were supposedly guarding a high profile suicidal prisoner Jeffery Epstein who was eventually found dead will not face federal charges.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/30/us/jeffrey-epstein-officers-dismissed-charges/index.html

Just a coincidence and random chance...

Keep in mind this was announced during a holiday week when most don't care about following the news. I guess they have to make sure they're available to 'guard' Maxwell.
 
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I am shocked! I thought we were glad to get away from Puritanism? I remember growing up with strict rules and I accepted those rules were made so we could protect ourselves. Then we threw away all the rules and had "sexual freedom". That made life very confusing and now we are prosecuting people?! Excuse me, what happened to the rules and personal responsibility?
 
I am shocked! I thought we were glad to get away from Puritanism? I remember growing up with strict rules and I accepted those rules were made so we could protect ourselves. Then we threw away all the rules and had "sexual freedom". That made life very confusing and now we are prosecuting people?! Excuse me, what happened to the rules and personal responsibility?


I agree ........... and wow I hate to say this but. Every photo & video clip that I saw of the "victims" back in the day, appear to be smiling / laughing / posing etc .......... I have to wonder, just how forced coerced were they ?

Is there money involved ? As in civil lawsuits , fortified by the legal outcome ? ....... Follow the money.
 
I am shocked! I thought we were glad to get away from Puritanism? I remember growing up with strict rules and I accepted those rules were made so we could protect ourselves. Then we threw away all the rules and had "sexual freedom". That made life very confusing and now we are prosecuting people?! Excuse me, what happened to the rules and personal responsibility?
I think the issue was not that there was sex at all, but that the girls were underage.
 
I agree ........... and wow I hate to say this but. Every photo & video clip that I saw of the "victims" back in the day, appear to be smiling / laughing / posing etc .......... I have to wonder, just how forced coerced were they ?

Is there money involved ? As in civil lawsuits , fortified by the legal outcome ? ....... Follow the money.
Thank you. I was bracing myself for an attack because of what I said, but it burns my soul that these girls were out for a good time and enjoyed the ride, and now they will get rich by claiming to be victims.

More concerning is the witch hunt we are on and our enjoyment of this. I am not saying the sexism of Mash, Gomer Pyle, the Carol Burnett show are right, but at least then we laughed about it, and we were not burning with anger and wanting to get revenge on people.

Let me be clear. I did not like the unwanted advances and the work problems. I am just saying I have concerns about what is happening now and how this will turn out.
 
I think the issue was not that there was sex at all, but that the girls were underage.
I think their ages are only a legal technicality. Back in the day it was said good girls didn't do it and bad girls did. The girls were old enough to understand that concept and they chose to do it.
 
Should we ban songs like Sweet Little Sixteen; 16 Candles; You're 16, You're beautiful, and you're MINE; and a lyric like Well, she was just seventeen; you know what I mean 😉 😉
 
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