All Three Defendants Guilty - Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

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rgp said:
Only one of them had the gun, maybe it went off by accident ? or was purposely fired ?

Regardless, how can all three be charged with murder ? Accomplice ? maybe,accessory to ? maybe. But murder for all three ?

I expect & hope there will be an appeal, if so perhaps the incident will be looked at more closely ?
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Mam. Are we discussing the same case I just read what you wrot for the first time I think you must have been in a coma to have concluded that devision. We’ll like they say in Italian to each his own what is your reasoning for an appeal what’s your point there was only one intent. And you can’t see that I hope your never on my jury have a nice day. You just made a fool out of yourself
 
JBingo36 said:
Mam. Are we discussing the same case I just read what you wrot for the first time I think you must have been in a coma to have concluded that devision. We’ll like they say in Italian to each his own what is your reasoning for an appeal what’s your point there was only one intent. And you can’t see that I hope your never on my jury have a nice day. You just made a fool out of yourself
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First of all ...... I'm not a mam.

"You just made a fool out of yourself"

And your second reply is to denigrate me ........... says allot about you.
 

rgp said:
"And the old citizens' arrest law didn't cover misdemeanors."

And you are an expert on Georgia law ? ......... Show me where the above is written.
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It covered misdemeanors, yes. Whether by a private citizen or police officer, the same applies equally to both for a Warrantless Misdemeanor arrest.
 
rgp said:
Again , I disagree ..... a citizen can attempt an arrest ..... however he/she sees fit. If that person is wrong ? .... then the law will come after them.
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They can not arrest "as they see fit", they must follow the law. Mistake of law and Mistake of fact are mostly opposite.
 
rgp said:
I disagree with any hint of premeditation ...... they were merely attempting a citizens arrest.

Had the jogger not rushed the man holding the shotgun ....... he might well be alive today.
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Yes, how dare he not allow himself to be kidnapped by a trio of lowlife scum who could have done anything they wanted to do to him!
Like this case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd_Jr.

By the way, why aren't you busy writing letters expressing your utter disapproval of the dirt bags' unfair sentences?
 
JBingo36 said:
Mam. Are we discussing the same case I just read what you wrot for the first time I think you must have been in a coma to have concluded that devision. We’ll like they say in Italian to each his own what is your reasoning for an appeal what’s your point there was only one intent. And you can’t see that I hope your never on my jury have a nice day. You just made a fool out of yourself
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He has done it before. Check out his comments on the Derek Chauvin case.
Racist extraordinaire!
 
ohioboy said:
Nonsense! Wyatt Earp and his henchmen were not wearing any type of uniforms or any other insignia they may have been police! If they had any brains, attempting to make a citizens arrest with a Shotgun, is beyond stupid. Even if the required "You are under arrest" words were uttered, so what? Since you are saying Ahmaud should have surrendered and waited for the police, we can say the same for the Three blind mice, call the police and wait. The so called arrest for the alleged crime was for a NON violent offense! It does not warrant the actions of the pursuers, period.
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Isn't it the case that in order to make a citizens arrest, you need to witness the perpetrator committing the crime for which you're trying to arrest him or her? Ahmaud didn't commit any crime, so obviously, that's out. What they did was false imprisonment, for which they were found guilty in addition to murder.
 
Irwin said:
Isn't it the case that in order to make a citizens arrest, you need to witness the perpetrator committing the crime for which you're trying to arrest him or her? Ahmaud didn't commit any crime, so obviously, that's out. What they did was false imprisonment, for which they were found guilty in addition to murder.
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Not according to the law at that time.

https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2020/title-17/chapter-4/article-4/section-17-4-60/

Scroll down for some case law annotations:

Presence" and "knowledge" synonymous.
- Words "in his presence" in former Code 1933, § 27-207 (see O.C.G.A. § 17-4-20) and "within his immediate knowledge" as used in the former provisions (see O.C.G.A. § 17-4-60) were synonymous. Piedmont Hotel Co. v. Henderson, 9 Ga. App. 672, 72 S.E. 51 (1911); Novak v. State, 130 Ga. App. 780, 204 S.E.2d 491 (1974); Forehand v. State, 130 Ga. App. 801, 204 S.E.2d 516 (1974).

Crime known by senses is within knowledge.
- Phrases "in his presence" and "within his immediate knowledge" are synonymous and a crime is committed in one's presence if by the exercise of any of the person's senses the person has knowledge of the crime's commission. Johnson v. Jackson, 140 Ga. App. 252, 230 S.E.2d 756 (1976).

Scroll down to the bottom -- Appendix--- When warrantless Misdemeanor arrests are permitted by the police, as in 2001, check current codes online, may or may not have changed, the citations may or may not permit arrests by citizens? As a comparison, Ohio only permits citizens arrests for felonies, but the seperate Restraint of liberty statute is not an arrest.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/99-1408
 
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oldiebutgoody said:
Not so if someone is confined to a country club prison. Often they become celebrities and write profitable biographies. Prefer the gallows for SOBs like them.
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Death row inmates become bigger celebrities. Worldwide they get fan mail including proposals, make the news for each appeal. I know these guys are facing federal charges but were first convicted by the state so hopefully will go to state prison rather than a country club federal. Life without parole (which I hope they get) is a death sentence ...a really, really long one without all the death row attention. I say this not as an opponent of capital punishment, just that I think life without parole is the worst possible sentence.
 
win231 said:
Maybe they will gain sexually during their long sentence.
On the other hand, looking the way they look, even inmates will reject them.
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oldiebutgoody said:
You must have forgotten already about our discussion of Kim Potter the murderous cop:

The Kim Potter Trial: should she go to prison? | Page 6 | Senior Forums


She was sent to a country club prison and that is why she smiled for the camera.
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yep she did... it's not going to be hard for her in this cosy den.. is it ?
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ohioboy said:
She was not charged with Murder though.
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Do remember that she was a cop and that crowd usually gets the benefit of the doubt. Had it been you or me and claimed self defense or an accident you could expect a life sentence and a prison hell hole like Sing Sing rather than a country club.
 

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