Eight people Shot on the subway Brooklyn New York

RadishRose said:
Well, the fool left his credit in the backpack he left, which matched the uhaul rental 2 days ago. Or maybe just yesterday.

But how stupid; with his photo all over the media, he goes walking down the street in the same area and was recognized.
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You can bet that this thug will mount a defense of Mental Illness, and some judge will give him a light sentence, and he will probably be back on the streets again.
 
This part of Pennsylvania is not too far from NYC. There is a plan in the works to begin passenger train service to and from NYC.
OH GOODY!
 

Brooklyn subway suspect tipped off police to his location​

https://apnews.com/article/police-hunt-brooklyn-subway-gunman-8b4e1efee5d08c06050c7b09172829d3

the suspect himself called police to come get him, law enforcement officials said.

In recent months, James railed in online videos about racism and violence in the U.S. and about his experiences with mental health care in New York City, and he had criticized Adams’ policies on mental health and subway safety.
 
  • Zach Tahhan, who lives in New Jersey, told DailyMail.com how he recognized the alleged shooter at lunchtime
  • The 21-year-old, originally from Syria, said he was fixing a camera outside a convenience store in East Village
  • He revealed he 'started jumping up and down and screaming' when he realized it was 62-year-old Frank James
  • He said witnesses 'thought he was crazy' but added he ran after him while the shop manager called over cops
  • The hero was lauded by a huge crowd this afternoon who chanted the $50,000 reward should now be double
21-year-old Syrian man who helped catch the Brooklyn subway gunman was hailed a hero this afternoon after beating the NYPD to find the city's most wanted man.

Zach Tahhan, who lives in New Jersey, told DailyMail.com how he recognized the alleged shooter while he was fixing a camera outside a convenience store in the East Village.

Mr Tahhan, who works for MACA security integrators, revealed he immediately 'started jumping up and down and screaming' when he realized it was 62-year-old Frank James.

He said onlookers 'thought he was crazy' but claimed he ran after him while the manager of the shop flagged down a police cruiser that had stopped at a red light.

The hero was lauded by a huge crowd on Wednesday afternoon who chanted that the $50,000 reward should be double and he should claim it as soon as possible.

But Mr Tahhan said he did not want to collect it because 'money is not important to me', adding he 'just wanted to do the right thing'.

Meanwhile insiders told the New York Post James had also called 911 himself, telling them where he would be before adding: 'You know, I think you're looking for me.'

He was later grabbed by three cops on First Avenue without putting up a fight after visiting a nearby McDonald's and strolling down the street.

He was the most wanted man in the city after allegedly shooting ten people on a northbound N train in Brooklyn yesterday morning.

I don't want to be seemingly attacking someone but this guy who called the cops.. don't you think he's the oldest looking 21 year old you've ever seen ?

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Frank James taken into custody...

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Don M. said:
You can bet that this thug will mount a defense of Mental Illness, and some judge will give him a light sentence, and he will probably be back on the streets again.
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Doesn't that hinge on his understanding that the act he committed was wrong? According to him, he's had treatment for mental issues in the past--and obviously needs more--but most people with mental disorders know it's wrong to shoot people. He's got lots of social media content showing that he did not only know that it was wrong, but his actions in planning it out in advance with the construction vest, smoke bombs etc show cold-blooded intent. I think he's tried to plant the seeds for an insanity defense with some of his social media posts and videos, but I don't buy it based on current facts.
 
Packerjohn said:
I remember the series very well. It was black and white, great stories, great acting and NO SWEARING! Bet they can't do a series like this anymore with out a lot of F.... this and F..... that. If that isn't enough then "I don't want any more of this S..... or that S....... To my way of thinking, if you don't have great actors, great stories and a great movie, just have all your actors stand there and swear all the time. I suppose this is to attract an audience?

Ya, I know things have changed but sometimes not for the better. Bette Davis, Gary Cooper, Edward G. Robinson & Robert Mitchum made a career in Hollywood without constant swearing. I bet if Shirley Temple made a movie today, there would be a lot of F and S words. I suppose she would just be showing her "feelings." It's a brave new world and what goes around comes around. More killings coming soon to your media. Stay tuned. You wouldn't be disappointed!
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I'm with you on this one John. I hate these series and movies where the writers obviously think using the F word in every other sentence is going to enhance the show. I have stopped watching movies and series I'd actually been looking forward to checking out because I was so turned off by this. I just started watching Stephen King's The Stand on Paramount+. After a couple of scenes I was so turned off that I stopped watching and took it off my Watchlist. These days it's a pleasure to be able to watch entertainment that doesn't contain all that vulgarity. I'll admit though that I have watched things that contain the F word, but not in excess.
 
This was a terrible and terrifying event. I'm so glad they caught this man as quickly as they did. With all the clues he left and the fact that he called and reported himself, it seems like he wanted to get caught. Not that I think he should get leniency using the "twinkie defense" but he's obviously mentally ill. It was such a nice day yesterday, I thought about taking the train to Hoboken (N.J.) but on the way there are connecting trains from NYC and the thought of him being out there...who knew where...made me change my mind. Now my concern is I hope no copy-cat "I want the notoriety too"person doesn't try pulling the same thing.

I used to take the subway to Harlem when I was in my 20's to take music classes. I was so glad when a co-worker told me there was a way to get there via bus. You couldn't pay me to take the subway in N.Y.C. now. @oldman Ridership may be down 50% but I saw on the news that subway crimes are up by 52% over the previous year. I'll say this again...we shouldn't have to be afraid to go about our daily lives. Our society is so broken!
 
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Nosy Bee-54 said:
Nope! I flew there for a 10 day cruise out of Manhattan Cruise Terminal on March 29. The cruise ended last Saturday April 10. That is why I was on the subway. Even though NYC public transportation is not as modernized as most cities I visit worldwide, it is still efficient.
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A good bit of luggage is necessary when cruising. You dragged all of that on a subway?!
 
chic said:
Do mentally healthy people arm themselves to the teeth and attack innocent strangers? If so, I'd like to hear your definition of a mental health issue.
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Maybe after you've calmed down you will see what I'm really saying.



I never said he didn't have a mental health problem. I was just clarifying that he is one of only 3 percent of folks with mental illness who act that way--meaning most mentally afflicted people don't act that way!!!

I'm a bit tired of people who make us all out to be violent! We're 97 percent nonviolent!
 
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Ruthanne said:
Maybe after you've calmed down you will see what I'm really saying.



I never said he didn't have a mental health problem. I was just clarifying that he is one of only 3 percent of folks with mental illness who act that way--meaning most mentally afflicted people don't act that way!!!

I'm a bit tired of people who make us all out to be violent! We're 97 percent nonviolent!
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True but the 3% make up for it in sheer atrocity. :(
 
Don M. said:
Here's a list of some of the biggest campaign donors.....the ones who Really run the country.
https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations

And YES....we need Term Limits. The longer these clowns remain in office, the more corrupted they become.
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I'm afraid that term limits would only transfer power to the unelected staff. If you are familiar with how DC works, there are tens of thousands of people who live and work in the background, year after year, and accumulate power. If you want to influence government, you identify these people get them in your pocket. The elected politicians are just figureheads. It would be more productive to eliminate the revolving door that assures a golden parachute to unelected people who have established connections and accumulated power.
 
Islander said:
I'm afraid that term limits would only transfer power to the unelected staff. If you are familiar with how DC works, there are tens of thousands of people who live and work in the background, year after year, and accumulate power. If you want to influence government, you identify these people get them in your pocket. The elected politicians are just figureheads. It would be more productive to eliminate the revolving door that assures a golden parachute to unelected people who have established connections and accumulated power.
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Yeah, you are correct, in that most of these politicians are just "figureheads" for the entrenched bureaucracy, and the lobbyists. They pay more attention to the big money interests than the needs of the people and the nation.
 
Islander said:
I'm afraid that term limits would only transfer power to the unelected staff. If you are familiar with how DC works, there are tens of thousands of people who live and work in the background, year after year, and accumulate power. If you want to influence government, you identify these people get them in your pocket. The elected politicians are just figureheads. It would be more productive to eliminate the revolving door that assures a golden parachute to unelected people who have established connections and accumulated power.
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So what's the solution and how do we go about it?
 
Arguing about what percentage of the mentally ill are violent or own guns seems to me beside the point. The only useful facts are:

1. Obviously, he is very seriously mentally ill. What other motive could there be?

2. How did a person in his mental state get hold of all that weaponry?

Let's suppose that a red-headed person got hold of a bomb and blew up a building. Would it make any sense to argue that most red-headed people don't blow up buildings? That isn't at all the point.

Thank God they arrested this guy. He is mentally ill and has to be in an environment where the public is protected from him. Doesn't seem too important to me whether that environment is a prison or a secure mental hospital. But it has to be secure.

And the gun laws certainly do come into it! There have always been "madmen" roaming around, and there still are, all over the world. But only this country seems hellbent on allowing them to easily get arms.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
A good bit of luggage is necessary when cruising. You dragged all of that on a subway?!
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I guess it all depends on what you call "a good bit." I have been cruising for decades and only carry a backpack which holds a few necessities like tablet, phone, cables and meds. Plus a 26' two-wheel piece of luggage. Some people may pack the house, so to speak, others pack what is needed.

It also depends on what you call "dragged." My luggage is easy to maneuver. If I was handicapped or in poor health, I would be limited to a Uber/Taxi.

When travelling, I see people in worldwide cities like Amsterdam, Barcelona etc., strolling with their luggage on sidewalks and in train stations.
 
Islander said:
I'm afraid that term limits would only transfer power to the unelected staff. If you are familiar with how DC works, there are tens of thousands of people who live and work in the background, year after year, and accumulate power. If you want to influence government, you identify these people get them in your pocket. The elected politicians are just figureheads. It would be more productive to eliminate the revolving door that assures a golden parachute to unelected people who have established connections and accumulated power.
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absolutely as these folks should perhaps have "term limits" or more disclosure put on them as well.....
some work in specific departments then are transferred or rehired by another department entrenching them further.....
I think if more departments were to move out of the bubble................ closer to areas around the country it would make it at least a workout for lobbyist if they had to travel around to lobby instead of door to door in DC area.
the following was in an opinion piece but does make good sense:

No, not the White House nor the Congress, but the rest of the federal government, namely the Cabinet departments and large agencies that have grown up around the Beltway, should move and disperse. There is really no compelling reason that federal agencies and departments remain in Washington, D.C., and many good reasons why they should be relocated across the United States over time.

The Department of Defense, for example, should move to Tampa, where it already has many key functions. The Treasury Department should go to Philadelphia, halfway between the financial capitals of New York and DC. Homeland Security should reside in the heartland of the homeland, either Chicago or Denver. The State Department belongs in NYC where most foreign governments already have a large presence. Commerce should move to San Francisco; HHS to LA. Interior should be in the interior, maybe Boise or Minneapolis.
 
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Nosy Bee-54 said:
I guess it all depends on what you call "a good bit." I have been cruising for decades and only carry a backpack which holds a few necessities like tablet, phone, cables and meds. Plus a 26' two-wheel piece of luggage. Some people may pack the house, so to speak, others pack what is needed.

It also depends on what you call "dragged." My luggage is easy to maneuver. If I was handicapped or in poor health, I would be limited to a Uber/Taxi.

When travelling, I see people in worldwide cities like Amsterdam, Barcelona etc., strolling with their luggage on sidewalks and in train stations.
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I picture having to get the luggage down those steps from the street, then being on a crowded car where you might not be able to sit down. You do good to only take what you take! I took two suitcases when I cruised...one rolling 26" the other was a little smaller (and is a spinner) and mine was only a seven day cruise. We dressed for dinner each night and there was a special dress up night. So that meant changing clothes twice a day some days. My son took me to the port.

I've taken luggage on the train but the Amtrak station entryway is street level and there are escalators and elevators available. I had trouble maneuvering the escalator when my husband and I went. He had gone up already and had to rush back down to help me. After he passed, I took a trip alone and used the elevator to get to the platform instead. Of course there is plenty of room for luggage and assigned seating. I decided to take a second train home. Had to transfer again once I got to the transfer hub. I will never do that again. I will take Ubers there and back. I don't even know what accommodations are in N.Y. subway stations now because I haven't been in one in decades. Do they have elevators?
 
OneEyedDiva said:
I picture having to get the luggage down those steps from the street, then being on a crowded car where you might not be able to sit down.
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OneEyedDiva said:
I don't even know what accommodations are in N.Y. subway stations now because I haven't been in one in decades. Do they have elevators?
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I don't sit down on the train in NYC.

Having to maneuver a piece of luggage using the NYC subway is not for everybody. Even my daughter who lives there prefers Uber between airports and her apartment. I like the vibe of the subway and airport bus, plus it seems quicker to me. Don't have to worry about traffic jams and other delays.

I believe at major stations where there are multiple platforms, elevators are available. However, I generally don't use them. I can go up and down stairs without huffing and puffing. My luggage is usually no more than 42 lbs. If there is an escalator then that works for me too.

Coming off a ship, those passengers who can handle their luggage are given priority disembarkation. If you need assistance with your luggage or just don't want to handle it, you have to place your luggage outside the cabin door the night before.

Even though there are more cruise options out of NYC, Bayonne maybe more convenient for you.
 
WhatInThe said:
That seems like it's a terror attack.

Also radio reports they are looking for a U Haul truck with Arizona plates-doesn't necessarily mean plot/shooter from Arizona. Some national companies register their vehicles in different. Not unusual for a rental agency.
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U Haul USA registers ALL of their vehicles in Arizona, because it has the cheapest commercial plates of any US State. Even the U Haul trucks in Canada bear Arizona plates. JimB.
 
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