Supreme Court overturning Roe v Wade?

ohioboy said:
The only way a fetus can be considered a person for traffic law purposes is if there was an accident cause by another that resulted in the death of the fetus under a "Fetal homicide" law. As far as qualifying under the HOV rule, absurd!
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which itself shows a 'fetus' is a human being.. because homicide can only be committed against a human being.
 

JaniceM said:
which itself shows a 'fetus' is a human being.. because homicide can only be committed against a human being.
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Homicide is simply defined as a death caused by another, not why! These laws are abstract from Roe, as in those, exemptions include abortion. Surfing showed 39 states have such laws. Will that # increase post Roe?
 

ohioboy said:
The SC has decided well over 20,000 cases since 1789! That in and of itself makes research difficult and conflicting. If it is not clearly settled case law, new cases present new challenges. Let us take the 4th AM as an example, no "UNreasonable" searches or seizures. What is Unreasonable? It is impossible for every Jurist to reach the same legal conclusion.
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I'll give you a hint... it's the basis on how and why individuals in various parts of the U.S. have sued over drug testing and won.
(examples: drug testing individuals who use prescription medication, and individuals who play on school sports teams)
 
JaniceM said:
I'll give you a hint... it's the basis on how and why individuals in various parts of the U.S. have sued over drug testing and won.
(examples: drug testing individuals who use prescription medication, and individuals who play on school sports teams)
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Yes, the USSC has permitted selected drug testing of sports students, so the states can act on that as they wish.
 
JaniceM said:
yet, individuals have sued, and won based on the 4th amendment.
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No doubt, but a state can rule such provisions still violate the 4th as a Separate Sovereign, as wierd as that may seem, but usually ruled also with their State Constitutional S&S provision.
 
rgp said:
" I always welcome debate or technical correction, that is how I learn too!"

Yeah you "always wecome" debate ... until it challenges your opinion .... then you like some others go to snide remarks..

As you did in post #52 , in the Jayland Walker thread.
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Wow, are you really stalking people by searching and quoting their specific posts? You are even more in need of a life than I thought.:ROFLMAO:

@ohioboy researches and provides more substantive information than you ever do. Your responses are only a series of racist, misogynistic and homophobic tropes that don't add anything to the conversation. I'm surprised you are still here on what you call a site with "Communist" moderators. Is it the desire to argue and get angry? Some words of wisdom for you.


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Alligatorob said:
No, I don't think so. I believe that is how our process is supposed to work. Laws are passed by Congress, not the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court only interprets. If there is disagreement with the SC interpretation legislation is the proper remedy.

Why is that? Does Congress not have the power to legalize abortion?
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Agree, but the president can act by asking congress to codify abortion and then to eliminate the filibuster that would attempt to hold things up.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/30/bid...o-ease-senate-rules-to-codify-roe-v-wade.html
 
dseag2 said:
Wow, are you really stalking people by searching and quoting their specific posts? You are even more in need of a life than I thought.:ROFLMAO:

@ohioboy researches and provides more substantive information than you ever do. Your responses are only a series of racist, misogynistic and homophobic tropes that don't add anything to the conversation. I'm surprised you are still here on what you call a site with "Communist" moderators. Is it the desire to argue and get angry? Some words of wisdom for you.


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My life is just fine thank you ...... Of course you agree with @ohioboy ...you two seem to be on the same page about many things .

It just amazes me though when some folks , like him, you and others cannot post a a reply with some merit / substance about the topic at hand you resort to personal insults & such.

Speaking of 'stalking' posts ........ isn't that exactly what you are doing here ?
 
dseag2 said:
Wow, are you really stalking people by searching and quoting their specific posts? You are even more in need of a life than I thought.:ROFLMAO:

@ohioboy researches and provides more substantive information than you ever do. Your responses are only a series of racist, misogynistic and homophobic tropes that don't add anything to the conversation. I'm surprised you are still here on what you call a site with "Communist" moderators. Is it the desire to argue and get angry? Some words of wisdom for you.


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BTW, I have no anger ..... But I do have opposing views on some topics , but you & he & others just cannot read them, accecpt that it is my view , and move on ...... you just must have it your way. And disparage me in the process
 
From local news- and this topic is almost all that's been in the news lately- a "protest" they called "Reproductive Freedom Rally"... I got as far as noticing a sign one individual was waving around: "You don't care if women die!"

Well- which is it?! They're two entirely different subjects.
 
I've been watching to see if they announce who the
"leaker" is....but I'm betting it was one of the justice's
themselves, that did the "leak".....imho....
 
JaniceM said:
From local news- and this topic is almost all that's been in the news lately- a "protest" they called "Reproductive Freedom Rally"... I got as far as noticing a sign one individual was waving around: "You don't care if women die!"

Well- which is it?! They're two entirely different subjects.
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There's a clear connection: The statement about women dying is a reference to the mortality rate of women who are denied access to safe, legal abortions (thus denied reproductive freedom) and resort to back alley or self-induced abortions.
 
Hawk said:
I've been watching to see if they announce who the
"leaker" is....but I'm betting it was one of the justice's
themselves, that did the "leak".....imho....
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I always thought it was an aide to conservative justices, especially Alito himself. I think this conservative intern, or whatever position, felt it went too far. I remember when conservatives supported abortion.
 
StarSong said:
There's a clear connection: The statement about women dying is a reference to the mortality rate of women who are denied access to safe, legal abortions (thus denied reproductive freedom) and resort to back alley or self-induced abortions.
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Somewhere in here I said I believe there are legitimate reasons for abortions, but, otherwise, what you're saying is individuals will do something that's against the law and then blame somebody else if there are bad consequences.
And, in general, that does seem to be a thing these days.
 

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