When times were the best

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If you are a "Baby Boomer" you and I lived in the best of times. As far as I'm concerned the 60's were a fantastic time to be alive.
Think about it. Cars were plentiful and inexpensive and incredibly easy to repair. Do you remember REAL bumpers ? Gas, in many locales, was only .25 cents/gallon.
$20 in grocery money could fill 4-5 bags and feed 2 people for 10 days.
And, how about the music ? Unlike today, the 60's music was beautiful. We had such a wide variety of great tunes. Everything from Diana Ross crooning "Baby Love" to the spirit thrilling Moody Blues "Knights In White Satin".
Oh, and the jobs. Plentiful and easy to obtain. By today's standards the pay was not too much, but it was more then sufficient to support a small family.
Houses were dirt cheap. All through the 60's it was not difficult to find a "fixer upper" for only $5,000. (not just the deposit, but the TOTAL price)

Oh, my how I loved the 60's :)
 

As far as I'm concerned the 60's were a fantastic time to be alive.
Think about it. Cars were plentiful and inexpensive and incredibly easy to repair. Do you remember REAL bumpers ? Gas, in many locales, was only .25 cents/gallon.
$20 in grocery money could fill 4-5 bags and feed 2 people for 10 days.
Yeah, but getting that kind of money together back then was a lot harder... I don't miss the Vietnam war and all the civil unrest. For me the 60s were an experience, not one I would want to have missed, or to do again.
 
You know, after careful consideration, I think the civil unrest of the 60's/early 70's was preferable to the civil unrest of today, where democracy seems to be the target, and an unjust war is an unjust war, and we've certainly had are fair share of those since Vietnam, where I served. I didn't buy my first house until 75, but the VA loan certainly helped.
 

Yeah, but getting that kind of money together back then was a lot harder... I don't miss the Vietnam war and all the civil unrest. For me the 60s were an experience, not one I would want to have missed, or to do again.
Ok, but if I had a magical choice and I could switch the 2020's for the 1960's, I'd snap my fingers and live back in those days again. Even for the music alone, It would be worth it.
 
If you are a "Baby Boomer" you and I lived in the best of times.
I don't think the 1960s were good for women - not for jobs/pay, not for the clothes we had to wear (I hated being forced to wear dresses), not for the uncomfortable menstrual products, not with the discouraging expectations for us in school (the vocational interest test for girls in High School had only stereotypical jobs like teacher, librarian, secretary - I insisted they give me the boy's version of the test too, though it had some weird stuff on it also, such as funeral director and a measure of masculinity - which I scored super low in, but the girls test didn't have any comparable score, why would they score boys on that?!).
I don't think I saw a woman news anchor until much later, sometime in the 70s I guess, and then it was so new it was shocking and weird to see women in public jobs.
I remember in the mid-1970s a friend being all upset because she'd wanted a natural childbirth and the male doctor had agreed ahead of time, but then they strapped her down and made it a really horrid experience for her even tho there were no complications or medical reasons. It was so nice when eventually there started being a lot of women gynecologists, not sure when that happened, maybe in the 1990s. I remember in the 1970s the women's group at college got hold of a tape of a medical conference in our city, where the old male doctors were seriously saying women were not capable of making childbirth decisions etc (though at least there were a few doctors on the tape, presumably younger ones, that were disagreeing and even expressing disbelief that the misogynistic doctors could be serious).

The sixties probably weren't the best of time for some minorities too. Or for gay people (or trans etc).

I'd guess the best of times for me were around the mid 2000s (up until the 2008 recession), I had a good job, was being paid a fair wage, was still relatively young and healthy, had horses, was doing foster care and eventually adopted my daughter. My parents (then just my mom) were alive, which provided a significant psychological/economic safety net that I didn't realize was there until after my mom died in 2015.

I don't look back at the cars from the 60s or 70s as being all that good, of course as a young person I could only afford old cars, but they were so prone to leaking oil (Mustang and Maverick), I remember a few times having to fiddle under the hood (alternator screw?) to get my car to start at all (Maverick), and they constantly needed repairs after 50k miles (if they didn't just die completely). And apparently the hood hooks weren't all that good because I remember the hood flying up while I was driving on the highway in approx 1972 (Oldsmobile). I'm much happier with today's cars that have seatbelts and airbags, and require very little maintenance plus have good gas mileage and can go a lot of miles before you have to give up on them. My 90s Honda Civic lasted a couple decades before we traded it in.
 
I don't think the 1960s were good for women - not for jobs/pay, not for the clothes we had to wear (I hated being forced to wear dresses), not for the uncomfortable menstrual products, not with the discouraging expectations for us in school (the vocational interest test for girls in High School had only stereotypical jobs like teacher, librarian, secretary - I insisted they give me the boy's version of the test too, though it had some weird stuff on it also, such as funeral director and a measure of masculinity - which I scored super low in, but the girls test didn't have any comparable score, why would they score boys on that?!).
I don't think I saw a woman news anchor until much later, sometime in the 70s I guess, and then it was so new it was shocking and weird to see women in public jobs.
I remember in the mid-1970s a friend being all upset because she'd wanted a natural childbirth and the male doctor had agreed ahead of time, but then they strapped her down and made it a really horrid experience for her even tho there were no complications or medical reasons. It was so nice when eventually there started being a lot of women gynecologists, not sure when that happened, maybe in the 1990s. I remember in the 1970s the women's group at college got hold of a tape of a medical conference in our city, where the old male doctors were seriously saying women were not capable of making childbirth decisions etc (though at least there were a few doctors on the tape, presumably younger ones, that were disagreeing and even expressing disbelief that the misogynistic doctors could be serious).

The sixties probably weren't the best of time for some minorities too. Or for gay people (or trans etc).

I'd guess the best of times for me were around the mid 2000s (up until the 2008 recession), I had a good job, was being paid a fair wage, was still relatively young and healthy, had horses, was doing foster care and eventually adopted my daughter. My parents (then just my mom) were alive, which provided a significant psychological/economic safety net that I didn't realize was there until after my mom died in 2015.

I don't look back at the cars from the 60s or 70s as being all that good, of course as a young person I could only afford old cars, but they were so prone to leaking oil (Mustang and Maverick), I remember a few times having to fiddle under the hood (alternator screw?) to get my car to start at all (Maverick), and they constantly needed repairs after 50k miles (if they didn't just die completely). And apparently the hood hooks weren't all that good because I remember the hood flying up while I was driving on the highway in approx 1972 (Oldsmobile). I'm much happier with today's cars that have seatbelts and airbags, and require very little maintenance plus have good gas mileage and can go a lot of miles before you have to give up on them. My 90s Honda Civic lasted a couple decades before we traded it in.
 
If you are a "Baby Boomer" you and I lived in the best of times. As far as I'm concerned the 60's were a fantastic time to be alive.
Think about it. Cars were plentiful and inexpensive and incredibly easy to repair. Do you remember REAL bumpers ? Gas, in many locales, was only .25 cents/gallon.
$20 in grocery money could fill 4-5 bags and feed 2 people for 10 days.
And, how about the music ? Unlike today, the 60's music was beautiful. We had such a wide variety of great tunes. Everything from Diana Ross crooning "Baby Love" to the spirit thrilling Moody Blues "Knights In White Satin".
Oh, and the jobs. Plentiful and easy to obtain. By today's standards the pay was not too much, but it was more then sufficient to support a small family.
Houses were dirt cheap. All through the 60's it was not difficult to find a "fixer upper" for only $5,000. (not just the deposit, but the TOTAL price)

Oh, my how I loved the 60's :)
I turned 18 in 1975, which was a time when jobs were anything but plentiful. Of course, that was small town U.S.A., so even if the economy didn't totally suck, there still wouldn't have been many jobs.

I worked various low paying jobs in my teens — the last being a job in a factory where I was working for just over minimum wage. I learned how frustrating it is to be working full time and still being poor. It's no wonder some people choose a life of crime over that kind of life. I only had myself to support. I couldn't imagine what these young single mothers are going through, especially now that housing costs are so high.

But you're right... the "American dream" was alive and well back then. Anybody who learned a marketable skill or worked their way up to a leadership role could afford to buy a house. Those houses that sold for around $50,000 back then are now selling for ten times that. Learning a trade no longer provides a chance at the American dream.

Cars were cheap, but they didn't last anywhere near as long as today's cars. You were lucky to get 80k out of a car in the '70s without it burning and leaking oil. But they were luxurious. Compared to today's compact cars, driving a sedan made in the '60s or '70s was like driving around in your living room.

Music was far better back then, and concerts were cheap! Musicians during the classic rock era made their money from album sales and concerts where just a way for them to get people to buy their albums. Now it's just the opposite. Of course, the sound at concerts these days is far better, but there aren't any bands that I'd want to see. And they're boring.

First and foremost, in my opinion (which is correct), there was so much going on back then that was new and original, and of high caliber. It's was the American Renaissance, in a sense. We had much higher standards back then, especially in music. Bands had great musicians. I don't think that's true with today's music, much of which is just synthesized crap. But even rock bands these days don't seem to value high musicianship, other than maybe jam bands.

Times have changed. Our generation was into music, literature, philosophy, and art; today's young people are into technology, some of which is pretty cool. AI is changing the world. Robotics and automation open up all sorts of possibilities. Of course, those kinds of things are also destroying jobs, but that's progress for you and there's no stopping it. Either get on board or get out of the way — that is, unless you're retired. :)
 
I turned 18 in 1975, which was a time when jobs were anything but plentiful. Of course, that was small town U.S.A., so even if the economy didn't totally suck, there still wouldn't have been many jobs.

I worked various low paying jobs in my teens — the last being a job in a factory where I was working for just over minimum wage. I learned how frustrating it is to be working full time and still being poor. It's no wonder some people choose a life of crime over that kind of life. I only had myself to support. I couldn't imagine what these young single mothers are going through, especially now that housing costs are so high.

But you're right... the "American dream" was alive and well back then. Anybody who learned a marketable skill or worked their way up to a leadership role could afford to buy a house. Those houses that sold for around $50,000 back then are now selling for ten times that. Learning a trade no longer provides a chance at the American dream.

Cars were cheap, but they didn't last anywhere near as long as today's cars. You were lucky to get 80k out of a car in the '70s without it burning and leaking oil. But they were luxurious. Compared to today's compact cars, driving a sedan made in the '60s or '70s was like driving around in your living room.

First and foremost, in my opinion (which is correct), there was so much going on back then that was new and original, and of high caliber. It's was the American Renaissance, in a sense. We had much higher standards back then, especially in music. Bands had great musicians. I don't think that's true with today's music, much of which is just synthesized crap. But even rock bands these days don't seem to value high musicianship, other than maybe jam bands.

Times have changed. Our generation was into music, literature, philosophy, and art; today's young people are into technology, some of which is pretty cool. AI is changing the world. Robotics and automation open up all sorts of possibilities. Of course, those kinds of things are also destroying jobs, but that's progress for you and there's no stopping it. Either get on board or get out of the way — that is, unless you're retired. :)
Yes, by the mid 1970's things were changing dramatically. The price of housing began a rocket ride, higher and higher, because the "boomers" began gobbling up housing.

I disagree with those who bum rap the cars of the 1960's. I did the vast majority of basic auto work on my cars and I never had the slightest problem getting high mileage. IMO, all that was needed was to change the oil and filter every 2,500-3,000 miles.

Today's cars are mostly plastic. I live near an auto body shop, and when out for a walk I see cars being repaired. If they have the front or rear disassembled, it is clear to see the entire front or rear end is entirely el cheapo plastic. When cars were made well, they were made of strong steel and could take a minor hit in front or rear without a $2,500 repair bill.
 
For me it was the 50s
Too young to know the news
Just work and play
Dinner
Howdy Doody
Bed
I gotta repost this from a thread of mine I posted a couple months into my tenure here;

Recollections

this became rather lengthy....

Ever so often, I'd drive up to the ol' place for, well, old time's sake.
I always enjoyed the rush of memories, driving the old lane, and around the corner, up the hill onto the flat where most the kid population was, and where gramma's house, my 2nd home, crowned the hill.
Our place and gramma's place was one property, adjoined by five or so acres of strawberry patch, making the patch a short cut between houses.

Not long ago I hired a new engineer, he was a whip.
Ate up everything I could hand him.
Became our I.T.
Made tedious, complex projects his fun little game.
Interfaced quite well with our clients.
We became friends, even though he was in his late 20's, and I in my mid 50's.
Come to find out, his dad lived at and owned the property out there in the hills of Scappoose.
I had to make the trip one more time.

Our little house was ready for razing. The doors were off, the garage my dad and grandpa built (with a hand saw and hammer) were gone.
We stopped. I boosted myself thru the doorless, and stepless porch entry, the closed in porch was our laundry room.

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Wringer washer, clothes line, wicker baskets, sweet smells of Fels-Naptha, my place to take off my day's clothes and grab the tub off the wall.
Rooms, once huge, were now so tiny.

The kitchen, remodeled with the rest of the house, still had the red fire alarm above the sink.
Dad would proudly demonstrate to friends how loud it was, putting a glass of hot water up near it.
The wood cook stove was gone, but the pipe coming outta the ceiling, with the ornate metal ring, bore testament of many a meal.
Meals I learned to prepare, taking a few times to learn how to not break an egg yolk, how to get pancakes to turn out like mom's and gramma's, snacks dad showed how he ate when young, tater slices scorched on the cook top, then lightly salted. Tasted horrible, but really good, cookin' with Dad, good.
The table was gone of course. The curvy steel legged one that replaced the solid wood one, well not so solid, as we lost a meal or two due to the one wobbly leg. But that steel one with the gray Formica (?) top was up town.
There I'd sit, waiting out the meal, spreadin' my peas around to make it look like I ate some.
'If you don't at least take a bite of your peas you won't get any cake!'
Eventually, I'd be sittin' at the table alone, studying the gray swirly pattern of the table top, malnourished head propped up on my arm.
Dad, Mom, and sis would be in the living room watchin' Howdy Doody on the Hoffman, or something just as wonderful.
Eventually, I ate cake...then did the dishes.

One Sunday morning I sat at an empty table, but for a glass of milk and the One-a-Day pill bottle. Dad and Mom were exasperated... 'Your throat is this big, the pill is this big'..minutes-hours passed, shadows on the table shortened...'OK, just drink your milk'
I drained the glass between pursed lips.
The little brown pill remained at the bottom.
Nice try, parents from satan.

We had a lot of beans, navy, pinto, brown.
Beans on bread was quite regular. Got to like'n it..not much choice really.
Had chocolate cake with white icing for dessert. No dessert plates. Cake just plopped on the bean juice.
To this day, I still have a craving for cake soaked in bean juice.

The house was designed so's I could ride my trike around and around, kitchen, living, bed, bath, bed rooms.
They were my Daytona, straight away was the bed, bath and bed rooms.
We had large windows in the front corners of the house from the remodel, 'so we can look out, for godsake'.
Now we could watch log trucks barrelin' down Pisgah Home Rd, and my sis and I could have a bird's eye vantage from the kitchen when Dad backed the Bel Air outta the garage over three of the four kittens puss had had weeks earlier under the porch.
Took my sis quite awhile to get over that, as she'd just named 'em a few hours earlier. I was just enamored with the scene; romp-play-mew-look up-smat.
Dad didn't know until he got home.


The living room still had the oil stove that warmed us...in the living room.
A flash of memory recalled the two end tables and lamps, aerodynamic, tables sharp, cutcha, lamps with flying saucer shapes, one had butterfly like images formed into its material, and when lit, enhanced their appearance.
A sectional couch, we were up town.
Before the sectional, we had one that kinda placed you in the middle, no matter where you started. It was my favorite, as sis and I spent many a day on it when sick.
Mom would lay out the sheets and blankets, administering doses of tea, crackers, and toast, peaches if we felt up to it.
Waste basket stationed at the tail end of that couch, since we were in such a weakened state we could never make it to the bathroom.
Mom loved it, our own personal Mother Teresa.
Yeah, we milked it for days...school work piling up.
Recovery would finally occur once bed sores emerged.
When we were actually sick, Doctor Day would visit. Fascinating, black bag, weird tools, gauzes, pill bottles, the smell of disinfectant and tobacco. Then the shot.
It was all almost worth it.

Asian flu was a bit serious, but chicken pox was horrific for me.
It was Christmas, fever, pox forming.
Presents! Guns! Six shooters!...only there was this pock right on my trigger finger. It was like free ham for a practicing orthodox Jew.


Dad, always the entrepreneur, would use the living room as the media center, inviting salesmen with projectors and actual reel to reel set ups, showing us how to become a thousandaire overnight.
Nutri-bio was one, to take the place of one-a-days I guess.
The Chinchilla movie was fascinating, and we even took a trip to a guy's garage to see how they were raised. Turns out they need an even controlled temp to get a good coat, and actually keep 'em alive.
The Geiger counter became something to show company, and become an antique.
Dad and Mom's bedroom held few memories for me except for the time Mom found a nest of baby mice in the bottom dresser drawer...and a hammer.
There was that other brief time, but seems we were all pretty shocked.
My bedroom was actually our bedroom, sis and me.
After the remodel, we got twin beds, new ones.
Recall my first migraine in my new bed, pressing my head into the pillow. Teddy no consolation, but then I didn't really give it an honest try to fix his dented plastic nose either.
Dad was the bedtime story teller, Goldie/bears, red/the wolf, pigs/wolf..pretty standard stuff....but did the job.
Had a framed picture of a collie baying over a lamb in a snow storm hanging over my bed. It hangs over my light stand table today, found in some of my mother's stuff.

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The yard was not spectacular, but when sequestered from the woods, was plenty for me. I'd play in the dirt.
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Mom, in her no-remote-thought-of-divorce-happiest-I'll-ever-be-but-don't-know-it days, would be cleaning the house, wiping something on the windows that would become a swirly fog, then wiping that off. Cleaning the floor was sweep, mop, wax. Linoleum was the rage.
Lunch would be a great, but simple sandwich, with lettuce, and soup.

The icebox held short stemmed dessert glasses of homemade chocolate pudding, each centered with a half maraschino cherry. For the longest time I thought cherries came that way straight from the tree.
Cross over the Bridge, or Sunny Side of the Street played on the radio. Then it was a Paul Harvey segment.

Nobody close died, there were no wars I was aware of, and folks were generally at ease during that eight year era of fond memories, just fragrant recollections.


This aging cynic, years of crust giving way to a soft spot, down deep, had a hard moment of holding back visual emotion, as we drove away from the last tangible vision ever to be seen of the house of a sweet early life.
 
It seems to me that you got put in the front of the line when GOD was giving out the gifts for life. Great husband and Father, check, good provider, check. adventurous, check, able to fix anything, check, able to build anything, check, kind to other humans, check, loves animals, check. Man of many words, check, man that appreciates life well lived, check.

You are truly blessed.
 
It seems like each chapter of my life was the best in some way.

I enjoyed the carefree life of a child on my Grandmother's farm,

In the 70s my friends and I experimented with what life would be like as adults. We were filled with naive and optimistic dreams of our future.

In the 80s it all started coming together with a few close relationships, a little money, and the beginnings of a career.

The next 30 years seemed pretty uneventful, just grinding it out on a daily basis.

Now in the 20s, it's about reflection and contentment. A bit sad for the dreams that won't ever come true, yet content and thankful with the comfortable life that I was able to create for myself.

It's all been good and some of it was great! ;)🤭:love:

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way–in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only." ~ A Tale of Two Cities
 
The sixties were "the best of times, and the worst of times."

Good: Hippie movement with its promotion of love and peace, the feeling of excitement and anticipation of the new and better world to come, for a while a wonderful family in the White House (until he got assassinated), the breakdown of many old restrictions, the beginning of the civil rights movement and women's empowerment. And their music was certainly a LOT better.

Bad: Viet Nam war, urban riots, proliferation of drugs.

It was certainly a happy decade for me. That's when all my children were born.
 
The sixties were "the best of times, and the worst of times."

Good: Hippie movement with its promotion of love and peace, the feeling of excitement and anticipation of the new and better world to come, for a while a wonderful family in the White House (until he got assassinated), the breakdown of many old restrictions, the beginning of the civil rights movement and women's empowerment. And their music was certainly a LOT better.

Bad: Viet Nam war, urban riots, proliferation of drugs.

It was certainly a happy decade for me. That's when all my children were born.

Yeah, yeah ..... "wonderful" family in the W/house ....... he was a whore-monger & she was a gold digger .... Great family.
 
50's a teen enjoying all the fun stuff that was to enjoy back then. Music, 1st. car, drive in's, parking & making out, no worries about what was in the news.
60's Married, success in the Navy. Honorable discharge & success in getting jobs. Life it seems has always been good so even now my outlook is positive.
 
In the 2070s, some geezer is going to be posting in the Senior Forum how great life was in the 2020s. It's not the counting off of the decades we lived, but the stages of life we went through. We were young, and we viewed the world with awe. Life was nothing but possibilities, no responsibilities, and our main function was to have "fun". Youth was the springtime of our lives. It was good.
 

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