A San Diego ER is seeing about 37 pot related psychosis patients a DAY

Pepper said:
That drug dealer is almost always his/her good friend. Drug dealers generally have great personalities, after all, they are salespeople trying to satisfy customers, a great skill in the 'real' world.
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That's usually true, especially your first dealer. S/he's a friend at school or at your part-time job, or someone you play basketball with. But when you get all strung out and in debt to that person (or that person's supplier), you get passed around to countless street dealers who fluff their product with various crap, including household products from the Dollar Tree, and you're too far gone to care.

I've witnessed one overdose while walking to the convenience store, and one right out here on our community park. And I'm not saying they didn't bring it on themselves, but I will say they're more like poisonings than overdoses.
 
Paco Dennis said:
I disagree with this. They have some knowledge of ""whatever", but not experience of it. I never knew how experimenting would effect me. Sure I heard "don't do that", and of course that was a big incentive to try it. Adults do, why not me? Not the best logic, but it is often a teenagers thinking.
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Oh, I get what you're saying. Yeah, that aspect of it is like kids taking up the challenge. "Won't hurt me" "I won't get addicted "I'm just gonna do it when I party" and all that.
 
Who knows where those patients were getting their pot from. If bought from legal sellers, which you'd think would safe, but the dosages are more concentrated, as the article pointed out and that's the reason for so many of these psychosis cases, then something needs to be done about that. And there's no telling what the street stuff is laced with. A couple of years before N.J. legalized MJ, someone told me that pot doesn't even smell the same anymore. The article in the OP points out that the pot of today is nothing like the pot from back in the day (sic). My husband and I (neither of us did drugs) used to talk about how some people drunk from alcohol tend to be "nasty" drunks...mean, combative, violent, etc., which is usually not the case with MJ users.

@Don M. you said "I suspect that as MJ is made legal, in more States, it will become a "gateway" drug to more hazardous drugs....cocaine, heroin, etc." That has been the issue and argument against legalization all along. But according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse, and as @Pepper pointed out, that is not the case. https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug
 
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Lawrence00 said:
Are the distributors adding chemicals or is it just the plant itself evolving?
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One of the things with modern day pot is that is grown in perfect conditions and given fertilizers, plant foods etc, the precise amount of light and humidity. 40-50 years ago the stuff being smuggled in probably came from countries/environments with less fuss/more natural conditions.

And yes the distributors are probably lacing it to say their 'brand' better. In the end the user who voluntarily buys and uses it legal or not makes the decision/market as to what is out there. They wouldn't enhance or lace it if their customers didn't "demand" it.

Sidenote have nuisance neighbors that were lacing their pot with formaldehyde which is basically pcp which can spaz/freak people out. And would explain alot of their behavior.
 
Too much of anything can be bad, just like too much water can kill you. So I would not be surprised if there are extra strong varieties being consumed that could cause problems.
Just another argument for legalization if street varieties are dangerous.

I thought almost everyone has done mj at some point in their lives.
 
Back in the late 80’s, we had 2 Marines discharged for smoking weed laced with hash. I saw the brown sugar they kept in a piece of aluminum foil and hidden in their sock, but never knew what it was until someone told me. Considering what their job was, they should have been given time before being discharged.
 
I have never used any "recreational" drug and have no desire to. But it seems to me that all the arguments used against cannabis could also be applied to alcohol.

How many lives are ruined by overidulgence in alcohol? If you buy whiskey from someone who has brewed it himself in his backyard still, couldn't you die from poisoning? Don't most alcoholics start out drinking socially, and then fall into a downhill spiral? How much spousal abuse (physical and mental) is fueled by liquor? What about all the deaths caused by DUI? How many lives are ruined by it?

Yet, when we did have prohibition in this country, we know how well that worked. I really don't see any big difference between the two. Alcohol, used in moderation, is a good thing. Or at least, a neutral thing. The same probably applies to pot.
 
Sunny said:
I have never used any "recreational" drug and have no desire to. But it seems to me that all the arguments used against cannabis could also be applied to alcohol.
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I think you are right. And your approach of no recreational drugs is the most healthy. Problem is we are human and most humans have a desire for something to make us feel good from time to time, and outlawing it has never stopped people from finding it.
 
Sunny said:
How many lives are ruined by overidulgence in alcohol?
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I believe alcohol is far more harmful than pot, but it is so commonplace that we ignore it. We recognize it causes problems, even serious problems, but give it a pass, and while we are getting drunk, we point to pot as an extraordinary problem. For what it's worth, I don't do either. Neither one will go away, but it would help if we could put all this in a more realistic perspective.
 
Pepper said:
You military guys brought back the most astounding opiated hash during Vietnam.
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I wasn’t in Vietnam, but was in the Middle East. I think everyone is doped up over there. I think the place is the amphetamine Capitol of the world.
 
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Watch out for the edibles, pot is legal here but my youngest daughter is not programmed for moderation. Twice she's been in the ER after eating a couple or more (they take about 30 minutes to digest & react, or so I'm told).
 
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Nathan said:
You beat me to it. Dragnet, used to preach the government's fear campaign. Hilarious now, but to a 14 yr. old middle class white kid in 1966 Dragnet's message was scary stuff.
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I don't recall that episode, and don't have time at the moment, but there was another that I believe originally aired in 1967 and it was on again a couple of years ago.. people should think how old a 2-year-old girl named Robin ("Robbie") would be today if her parents hadn't been so * stoned that they didn't notice she was drowning in an overflowing bathtub.

Individuals want to use drugs- go for it- but do it "on a mountaintop in Tennessee" where it won't affect anyone else. Because, one way or another, it DOES affect other people.
 
Alligatorob said:
I think you are right. And your approach of no recreational drugs is the most healthy. Problem is we are human and most humans have a desire for something to make us feel good from time to time, and outlawing it has never stopped people from finding it.
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That's been said.. but individuals commit murder, rape, robbery- why not make all of that legal too?
 
ManjaroKDE said:
Watch out for the edibles, pot is legal here but my youngest daughter is not programmed for moderation. Twice she's been in the ER after eating a couple or more (they take about 30 minutes to digest & react, or so I'm told).
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There was a commercial on tv last night for one local store that sells those products.. adding in the commercial that it's 'a family place' and 'for people of all ages'...
 

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