Canada banned all handgun sales

win231 said:
Just one problem: How would you suggest convincing criminals to give up their guns so decent people don't need theirs?
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About the only way would be to reduce availability and law enforcement. Both would take time, probably a lot of it.

I know you, and many others, believe they need their guns for self protection. However I am not sure those guns really make people safer. I worry more about what might happen to a grandchild when one of my guns got used.

I keep mine under lock and key, and do not keep ammunition available. Double safe, however I know it would make it hard to use one in an emergency, but I feel better about the safety of the kids...

I am sure there are many publications on all sides of this issue, but this is one that kind of makes my point:

Will a Gun Keep Your Family Safe? Here’s What the Evidence Says​

The pandemic has inspired a surge in gun sales, but research shows that having a firearm in the house won’t necessarily help in a dangerous moment — and it will heighten other risks.
https://www.thetrace.org/2020/04/gu...hat,potential protective benefits of firearms.
 

If banning handguns reduces the number of murders in Canada, that effect should make itself evident fairly quickly.

Nearly half of all murders in Canada (and probably in the U.S.) are committed by gang members, most of whom live in or near poverty. Banning the sales of handguns will make it more difficult to obtain them. Gang members will need to purchase guns off the black market where the cost will be much higher than going into a gun shop and getting whatever's on sale at the time. That reason alone should cause the murder rate to drop. It will also stigmatize ownership of guns to some extent.

We shall see.
 
Canada...

1) No handguns allowed

2) Recognition of gay marriage

3) A woman's right to choose

4) Universal health care

5) Decriminalization and legalization of weed

Why would you want to live anywhere else?

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Criminals. They are the ones, who don't obey gun laws, and they will always illegally get guns. Actually, it's good they have them, because criminals account for very small percentage of gun related deaths. The main cause of gun related deaths are suicides. And in the vast majority of other gun related deaths, the victim knows the shooter. All the school shootings, serial killers, drive bys, etc account for a small percentage of the killed. Most people are either blow their own brains out, or blow their acquaintances' brains out.
 
SeniorBen said:
Gang members will need to purchase guns off the black market where the cost will be much higher than going into a gun shop and getting whatever's on sale at the time. That reason alone should cause the murder rate to drop. It will also stigmatize ownership of guns to some extent.
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Not sure where this info is coming from, but the gang members I know never get their guns from a store.......ever
The 'cost' is doing a favor

Yes, there's a market
Been around since the revolution
 
Gary O' said:
Not sure where this info is coming from, but the gang members I know never get their guns from a store.......ever
The 'cost' is doing a favor

Yes, there's a market
Been around since the revolution
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You know gang members? :eek:
 
Warrigal said:
Make everyone register their firearms and impound them from known criminals. Search properties of people who threaten violence to others and make sure that gun owners store their weapons securely against theft and children.

PS I am a decent woman. My husband, my children and my grandchildren are all decent people. None of us has ever owned a firearm, not have we ever had the need of one.

No-one has ever entered a school where I have taught and discharged a firearm at the students or teachers. I don't know of any instance anywhere in Sydney, New South Wales or Australia where that has ever happened.

Perhaps you should ponder the reason why our two countries, that have such a lot in common, are so different when it comes to the need to have a gun or three for self defence.
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"Make everyone register their firearms?" You really think criminals will?
So......a criminal will walk into a police station with his stolen gun & say, "Hi, officers. I have a gun I'm not supposed to possess because I'm a convicted felon, but I want to register it - because it's the law."
 
I seldom do not have a gun on me. Even if is just a peashooter in my pocket. It's a very dangerous world we live in. When I first went into the military, we had a Lieutenant that had a sign hung on his door. "Hope for the best, but plan for the worse." I doubt if he made that up because I didn't think he was smart enough, but it made sense to me.
 
win231 said:
"Make everyone register their firearms?" You really think criminals will?
So......a criminal will walk into a police station with his stolen gun & say, "Hi, officers. I have a gun I'm not supposed to possess because I'm a convicted felon, but I want to register it - because it's the law."
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It is possible to disagree with a woman’s perspective without resorting to these tactics. Interesting how frequently women’s posts seem to trigger your contempt. Misogyny is so tedious.
 
Been There said:
I seldom do not have a gun on me. Even if is just a peashooter in my pocket. It's a very dangerous world we live in. When I first went into the military, we had a Lieutenant that had a sign hung on his door. "Hope for the best, but plan for the worse." I doubt if he made that up because I didn't think he was smart enough, but it made sense to me.
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The authorities, in our upper terrain, strongly advise anyone there to carry or have a firearm handy
It's just common sense

If I ever go back to BC to visit, I'll have a short barrel 12 gauge handy
 
Gary O' said:
The authorities, in our upper terrain, strongly advise anyone there to carry or have a firearm handy
It's just common sense

If I ever go back to BC to visit, I'll have a short barrel 12 gauge handy
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It is difficult for a foreigner to get a license. Firearm safety course, testing, background checks. It takes months for a license to be approved.
 
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Shalimar said:
It is possible to disagree with a woman’s perspective without resorting to these tactics. Interesting how frequently women’s posts seem to trigger your contempt. Misogyny is so tedious.
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That's OK Shali but I am still waiting for an answer to my question as to why life is so much more dangerous in US than in Australia when we have so many common characteristics.

We have criminals too, and they do get hold of firearms but we don't have any need to strap on a side arm when we leave the house to go shopping. Our police are less trigger happy too because they aren't afraid of being shot every time them pull over a speeding car.
 
After a mass shooting at Dunblane in Scotland, handguns were banned in the UK, but as others have pointed out, criminals do not care about the law. There is still a level of gun crime, often gang / drug related. The UK, and maybe Canadian governments, are very good at punishing everyone because somebody must be guilty.
 
Capt Lightning said:
After a mass shooting at Dunblane in Scotland, handguns were banned in the UK, but as others have pointed out, criminals do not care about the law. There is still a level of gun crime, often gang / drug related. The UK, and maybe Canadian governments, are very good at punishing everyone because somebody must be guilty.
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They haven't been banned they've never been legal without a licence.. I have 2 handguns, fully licensed and kept in a gun safe along with a bolt action shotgun

In 1988 Firearms (Amendment) Act outlawed pump-action shotguns and self-loading rifles...after the Mass shooting in Hungerford of 17 people in 1987 .. when an unemployed military fantasist had legally purchased a multitude of pistols, carbines and semiautomatic rifles, and used them to kill 17 people, including his mother and himself.
 
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Isn't the point of a handgun for self-defense in a pinch?

What good is a handgun in a safe in your attic if someone breaks into your home? Why bother even owning one in the first place?
 
win231 said:
"Make everyone register their firearms?" You really think criminals will?
So......a criminal will walk into a police station with his stolen gun & say, "Hi, officers. I have a gun I'm not supposed to possess because I'm a convicted felon, but I want to register it - because it's the law."
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no they won't.. just as those who own them here in the criminal fraternity don't.. but it's a criminal offence to own a gun without a licence...and the mass shooting ( in a school ) was carried out by a madman who held a gun licence
 
Beezer said:
Right. You target shoot to practice in case you have to shoot somebody. So I was correct.
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Nope I don't ... you were not correct at all.. I could shoot someone if I wished and I don't wish , but .. I simply enjoy the sport...

if I took up archery, it wouldn't be so I could shoot someone in the eye with an arrow.. it would be for the sport!!
 

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