Former Pope Benedict XVI has died

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Former Pope Benedict XVI has died at his Vatican residence, aged 95, almost a decade after he stood down. He led the Catholic Church for less than eight years until, in 2013, he became the first Pope to resign due to ailing health since Gregory XII in 1415. For much of his papacy, the Catholic Church faced allegations, legal claims, and official reports into decades of child abuse by priests. Earlier this year the former Pope acknowledged that errors had been made in the handling of abuse cases while he was archbishop of Munich between 1977 and 1982.

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Not a Catholic and not a believer, but still sad when someone I know of dies. I think most Popes try to do good, and when they do their influence is wide spread. Popes are very influential people. I did respect his acknowledgment of mistakes, just sorry it took so long.
Tish said:
Former Pope Benedict XVI has died
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First "former" pope to die in something like 600 years. I think he set a good precedent, retiring when the time came.
 

In the past, the death of a Pope was a momentous occasion with the impending chaos of selecting a new one. This time it doesn't seem so significant, because he stepped down from office some time ago.
 
Pepper said:
Yeah, and in the news he's already beat down Barbara Walters, a much more important person in my book.

It's like the day Farrah Fawcett died. Big story, then a few hours later Michael Jackson dropped dead, no more focus on Farrah.
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Exactly !
 
Alligatorob said:
Not a Catholic and not a believer, but still sad when someone I know of dies. I think most Popes try to do good, and when they do their influence is wide spread. Popes are very influential people. I did respect his acknowledgment of mistakes, just sorry it took so long.

First "former" pope to die in something like 600 years. I think he set a good precedent, retiring when the time came.
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He is too, you are right.
 
rgp said:
Do not forget ..... He was an ex Hitler Youth/Nazi as opposed to only singing his praises .
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According to Wikipedia:
" Ratzinger's family, especially his father, bitterly resented the Nazis, and his father's opposition to Nazism resulted in demotions and harassment of the family.[34] Following his 14th birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was conscripted into the Hitler Youth—as membership was required by law for all 14-year-old German boys after March 1939[35]—but was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings, according to his brother.[36] In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was taken away by the Nazi regime and murdered during the Action T4 campaign of Nazi eugenics.[37] In 1943, while still in seminary, he was drafted into the German anti-aircraft corps as Luftwaffenhelfer.[36] Ratzinger then trained in the German infantry.[38] As the Allied front drew closer to his post in 1945, he deserted back to his family's home in Traunstein after his unit had ceased to exist, just as American troops established a headquarters in the Ratzinger household.[39] As a German soldier, he was interned in a prisoner of war camp, but released a few months later at the end of the war in May 1945.[39]"
 
Nathan said:
According to Wikipedia:
" Ratzinger's family, especially his father, bitterly resented the Nazis, and his father's opposition to Nazism resulted in demotions and harassment of the family.[34] Following his 14th birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was conscripted into the Hitler Youth—as membership was required by law for all 14-year-old German boys after March 1939[35]—but was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings, according to his brother.[36] In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was taken away by the Nazi regime and murdered during the Action T4 campaign of Nazi eugenics.[37] In 1943, while still in seminary, he was drafted into the German anti-aircraft corps as Luftwaffenhelfer.[36] Ratzinger then trained in the German infantry.[38] As the Allied front drew closer to his post in 1945, he deserted back to his family's home in Traunstein after his unit had ceased to exist, just as American troops established a headquarters in the Ratzinger household.[39] As a German soldier, he was interned in a prisoner of war camp, but released a few months later at the end of the war in May 1945.[39]"
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I understand / was aware of all that. You hold him in high regard should choose ..... I do not.
 
Nathan said:
LOL, you make assumptions, I could care less, but I do have a keen noise for a smear job posting.
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Assuming nothing ... your post read as support for him. And I posted only fact, no smear job.

As far as pope(s) in general .... most in my lifetime are just busy body old men sticking their nose(s) into social issues , that are [IMO] none of their concern. Run the church & the Vatican ... and keep their noses out of all else.
 
Got to admit, was incredible to hear from Catholic people saying "He can't retire, he's supposed to die in office!"

Let the guy have a nice time in his waning years...sheesh!
 
rgp said:
Assuming nothing ... your post read as support for him. And I posted only fact, no smear job.

As far as pope(s) in general .... most in my lifetime are just busy body old men sticking their nose(s) into social issues , that are [IMO] none of their concern. Run the church & the Vatican ... and keep their noses out of all else.
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Don't try to BS your way out by attempting to put me on the defensive. You assumed and that's that. Nothing in my post even remotely suggested 'support' for him by me, unless the factual account from Wikipedia happens to offend your bias.
I'm not Catholic, haven't the slightest interest in the Vatican, and quite frankly I'd have to glance back to the top of this thread just to remind me of this pop's name.
 
Nathan said:
Don't try to BS your way out by attempting to put me on the defensive. You assumed and that's that. Nothing in my post even remotely suggested 'support' for him by me, unless the factual account from Wikipedia happens to offend your bias.
I'm not Catholic, haven't the slightest interest in the Vatican, and quite frankly I'd have to glance back to the top of this thread just to remind me of this pop's name.
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Do not try to bull-shit me .... your post sounded like support .... period .

Read what you posted.

I assumed nothing.

BTW, I am not Catholic either ..... Not even a believer as far as that goes.

But, they are not [pop's] they are popes .... <grin>
 
rgp said:
Do not try to bull-shit me .... your post sounded like support .... period .

Read what you posted.

I assumed nothing.

BTW, I am not Catholic either ..... Not even a believer as far as that goes.

But, they are not [pop's] they are popes .... <grin>
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I can see you're attempting to get in the last word, you may do so...1, 2 ,3...now.
 
I didn't care for him. He was in a position to do something about pedophile priests and he did nothing. Also I saw that he had said something about Islam in 2006 that I found insulting to say the least, especially coming from a religious leader. It sparked many protests in primarily Muslim countries. I just found out that apparently he flip flopped later that year because he visited an Islamic leader and prayed at a mosque. It must've opened his eyes.
This is an excerpt from Wikipedia:
"During his papal tenure, Pope Benedict XVI focused on building on the outreach of his predecessors towards Islam, particularly on the efforts of Pope John Paul II, who experts say established trust and opened opportunities for dialogue with Muslims.[1] One of the important milestones in the Pope's efforts included a religious and peaceful initiative called A Common Word. This was provoked by an ill-conceived 2006 lecture he delivered at a university in Regensburg, Germany, which prompted Muslim leaders to gather and make overtures to their Christian and Jewish counterparts.[2] Later on, Pope Benedict pursued key initiatives that helped foster Christian and Muslim dialogue. These were founded on the Pope's belief that Christians and Muslims have shared religious experience and that Christianity and Islam are both theologically founded in "God's irruptive call ... heard in the midst of man's ordinary daily existence."[3]"
 
Can you imagine putting ex-Pope on your job resume?! And what happens to the Papal Infallibility thing once you retire? Do you still have it, or suffer a downgrade?

There’s a good idea for a Saturday Night Live sketch! “Benedict’s retirement job!”

Worker 1: “I don’t know how to handle this problem!”
Worker 2: “So, go ask Benedict! He’s never wrong!”
Worker 1: “Jeez, I HATE people like that!”
Worker 2: “Tell me about it! And you’d think management would make him take off those red slippers! This is a factory, for Cripes sake!”
Worker 1: “Benedict answers to a higher authority…”

(They look skyward as a heavenly choir is heard…) 😸
 
rgp said:
Assuming nothing ... your post read as support for him. And I posted only fact, no smear job.

As far as pope(s) in general .... most in my lifetime are just busy body old men sticking their nose(s) into social issues , that are [IMO] none of their concern. Run the church & the Vatican ... and keep their noses out of all else.
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I too took your post #6 as a smear rgp..
 
Pepper said:
It's not a smear if it's true.
"Joseph Ratzinger had been a member of the Hitler Youth and, by the end of the war, a soldier."
https://www.britannica.com › ... › Philosophy & Religion
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I understand that but have always found it less than appropriate to speak ill of someone who just died..I leave all judgment up to God at that point. Only God knows what good was done...
 

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