Cannabis is Legal in Canada

Why do people always compare it with alcohol? I can think of a lot of things that are better than alcohol that still aren't great. It's not like everybody has to choose between getting drunk or getting stoned.

Not everyone who smokes it just mellows out, there's a percentage who become violent. It's not talked about much though because there's so much money in the business.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084484/
Theres FAR more people who drink and become violent than use cannabis and become violent.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140127112733.htm


https://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/77th2013/Exhibits/Assembly/JUD/AJUD725Y.pdf

https://www.mpp.org/special/marijuana-is-safer-than-alcohol-its-time-to-treat-it-that-way/

https://www.businessinsider.com/alcohol-marijuana-which-worse-health-2017-11
 
In the US, cannabis is illegal. But there's a multi-$billion illegal distribution network, servicing every nook and cranny of the nation. And crime definitely pays. if cannabis were legal, there would be a legal multi-$billion distribution network servicing every nook and cranny of the nation. And legal means tax money. It's kind of useless to debate whether grass is good or not, when it's so available, and already a significant part of our culture. We know prohibition just doesn't work. It's time to face reality-cannabis, whether illegal or legal is part of American life. And it ain't going away-legit ot not.
 
Actually, cannabis is not legal federally, but it is legal in some states.

ADDED: In the U.S., I mean.
 
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That's what I really don't get. We've already got alcohol which causes all sorts of problems, but it's been a legal part of our society and traditions for thousands of years, and we tried making it illegal and it didn't work so we're stuck with it.

Why add another mind altering drug to the mix? Once it's been made legal for a while it will be just as hard to get rid of, no matter what we learn about the long term effects. It may not be as bad as alcohol but it does impair driving skills and it does change the brain of young users. Mexican cartels are already running the farms in California.

We just didn't need this. Alcohol and marijuana aren't brother and sister that we need to treat fairly. We're stuck with one we don't need to adopt another one just because she's not quite as bad.
 
I dunno. I don't drink, and I don't partake of marijuana and related products. Just not interested.

That said, I'm not for enforcing abstinence on the entire country. God forbid someone wants to have a joint to relax, or to deal with pain in the body.
 
I dunno. I don't drink, and I don't partake of marijuana and related products. Just not interested.

That said, I'm not for enforcing teetotalling on the entire country.
Most Canadians see it this way.......By making it legal, we are taxing the growers, the store operators, and the buyers of the product, JUST like we do with alcohol production and sales. If I want to invest in a Canadian marijuana producer or retail company, I can buy STOCK in them, on the Toronto Stock Exchange, just like I can buy shares in General Motors, or Rogers Telecomm. JimB.
 
by making it legal we accomplish a few things. Anybody who has done any thinking about drug possession, transport, use, abuse, growing, manufacturing understands that this all has contributed vastly to our overloaded legal system. Felony convictions hurt us all. That person after serving their time can no longer work any job. Thus limiting their upward mobility and tax generating ability severely. To say nothing of incarceration costing taxpayers. As an individual growing up in the good ol usa i can tell you that JUST because an item is illegal does not make it hard to get. Personal choices are what makes a person a user. Supply and demand are what creates the drug markets for all illegal substances. Legalize it in america
 
Yeah who wants to get "laid back" and start a fight? True, there are problems with cannabis abuse, but they don't seem to be as harmful as alcohol, although the jury may still be out on that. I don't smoke it anymore. It's been 50 plus years, but I think in time it will be recognized as the lesser of two evils. Right now, law enforcement has better things to do than throw pot heads in jail. Really, there are much more serious issues out there that need to be addressed.
I agree right up until these "Pot Heads" get in their cars to drive home or to find more pot! They then become potential killers...
 
Well why not make heroin, crack cocaine, and meth legal? We can tax the producers and users and cut way down on the prison population! In fact if that's your first concern we can make petty theft, non fatal assault, accidental homicide and domestic abuse, all either legal or just subject to fines. All those people can get out and get jobs and no one need ever feel any pain again.
 
That's what I really don't get. We've already got alcohol which causes all sorts of problems, but it's been a legal part of our society and traditions for thousands of years, and we tried making it illegal and it didn't work so we're stuck with it.

Why add another mind altering drug to the mix? Once it's been made legal for a while it will be just as hard to get rid of, no matter what we learn about the long term effects. It may not be as bad as alcohol but it does impair driving skills and it does change the brain of young users. Mexican cartels are already running the farms in California.

We just didn't need this. Alcohol and marijuana aren't brother and sister that we need to treat fairly. We're stuck with one we don't need to adopt another one just because she's not quite as bad.
Very good questions which I can respect and appreciate.

Alcohol was prohibited at one time and alcohol consumption decreased at first. Unfortunately bootleggers started to make it with higher potency causing an increase in crime, especially organized crime and charging these criminals caused the prison systems to reach their breaking point which then caused more corruption of public officials. Alcohol prohibition was a massive FAILURE!

https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/alcohol-prohibition-was-failure

The same thing happened to cannabis when the government prohibited it. Cartels took over and basement growers willing to supply the demand. Since the government made nothing from these sales, they created marijuana madness, creating the false illusion that those who used it would turn into instant nymphomaniacs and crazed lunatics however it was nothing more than a cautionary tale. ( 1936 )
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Surprisingly, these tactics worked for decades though.

https://hashmuseum.com/en/collection/reefer-madness/

Unfortunately the same thing happened to marijuana prohibition as alcohol prohibition; law enforcement spent so much time arresting growers, sellers and users, that it took away needed time and energy focussing on the more serious crimes , like murder, vandalism , theft etc.

The biggest obstacle in the way of marijuana becoming legal was that it couldn’t be taxed or patented by the big pharma corporation . With no profits being made by the government or big pharma, there was little to no funded research done on it causing the reefer madness propaganda to stick.

Finally big pharma found a way to patent a cannabis infused product for glaucoma which opened the doors to other business possibilities. This caused an interest in some ‘much needed’ research and the outcome was impressive.

It was proven effective :
-for treating nausea which was helpful for cancer patients during chemotherapy.
- pain associated with chronic conditions
- for treating epilepsy, some forms of autism,
fibromyalgia, migraines, irritable bowel
syndrome, depression, multiple sclerosis,
huntingtons disease, Parkinson’s disease,
anorexia , chronic motion sickness
- as an anti inflammatory
- for insomnia & social anxiety

In the beginning of 2000’s Canada made it legal but only with a doctors prescription which allowed legal licensed growers to supply them. Since this got taken advantage of Health Canada took over the licensing of growers which was a major failure. Not long afterwards, Canada made it legal for everyone to use and grow if they chose to.

Like anything in life, it’s not perfect. There are now THC infused chocolate, cookies and gummy bears, making this much more attractive to kids but it also is monitored, and goes through strict quality control so consumers know exactly what they are purchasing. It’s labelled with the proper strain, the exact THC level, the amount and other needed important info.

The BEST thing that happened when cannabis became legal is that people can be guaranteed a QUALITY product with no mould, no crushed glass, no fentanyl or other dangerous drugs added AND those seeking it don’t have to deal with dangerous cartels, basement growers or the stranger down the road.

Anything in need that gets prohibited becomes more dangerous including abortion. The loopholes people will go through due to desperation is horrifying but that’s another topic altogether.
 
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Well why not make heroin, crack cocaine, and meth legal? We can tax the producers and users and cut way down on the prison population! In fact if that's your first concern we can make petty theft, non fatal assault, accidental homicide and domestic abuse, all either legal or just subject to fines. All those people can get out and get jobs and no one need ever feel any pain again.
Canada is working on that as a solution also with restrictions, mind you.
 
It seems most of us have some doubts about the motives behind many of the FDA's "rulings". We definitely had misgivings about the Covid fiasco. The opioid prescriptions, and many of the RX meds we take ( that all of which can have difficult side effects. ) Marijuana made it's comeback and the Marijuana Industry was born. I don't trust the stuff they try to sell you at the Pot shops. It is starting to come down to doing your own research about controversial "everything".
 
In the US, cannabis is illegal. But there's a multi-$billion illegal distribution network, servicing every nook and cranny of the nation. And crime definitely pays. if cannabis were legal, there would be a legal multi-$billion distribution network servicing every nook and cranny of the nation. And legal means tax money. It's kind of useless to debate whether grass is good or not, when it's so available, and already a significant part of our culture. We know prohibition just doesn't work. It's time to face reality-cannabis, whether illegal or legal is part of American life. And it ain't going away-legit ot not.
many states have made legal and it has not stopped the illegal trade one bit .........
Why would a person especially a chronic user pay 50 for what they can get on street for 20 ..... have first hand account from a regular user tried the "store" once then said nope not paying double for less product.
Yep taxes really add up and like many items taxed people work around it ... If one state taxes alcohol heavy..... some buy in bulk at a neighboring state and bring home same goes with cigarettes etc.

not the billions in windfall so many think.
while "legal" crop is often defined by state for potency and purity and even growers are supposed to be licensed and regulated ......... like most all laws it is about enforcement or lack of

in my state a person had a grow operation in a former Costco building ( so you know how big) ......in state capital city........ and sold on street and to all the legal stores for years. Stores did not verify where they purchased etc ( as is written in law) ....state got taxes on end user but not the "industry" producing product .......as they had claimed.... the HONOR system is a JOKE.
Person never was licensed etc seriously if they can not even track your own program ....... that it is hilarious....they expect people to believe in the system. Only was caught after 5 years by a disgruntled ex-wife..🤣🤣🤣🤣

Driving under the influence is now evenly split among those too stoned to drive or drunk ......
BUT the over projected tax money is suppose to make it ALL ok.
 
many states have made legal and it has not stopped the illegal trade one bit .........
Why would a person especially a chronic user pay 50 for what they can get on street for 20 ..... have first hand account from a regular user tried the "store" once then said nope not paying double for less product.
Yep taxes really add up and like many items taxed people work around it ... If one state taxes alcohol heavy..... some buy in bulk at a neighboring state and bring home same goes with cigarettes etc.

not the billions in windfall so many think.
while "legal" crop is often defined by state for potency and purity and even growers are supposed to be licensed and regulated ......... like most all laws it is about enforcement or lack of

in my state a person had a grow operation in a former Costco building ( so you know how big) ......in state capital city........ and sold on street and to all the legal stores for years. Stores did not verify where they purchased etc ( as is written in law) ....state got taxes on end user but not the "industry" producing product .......as they had claimed.... the HONOR system is a JOKE.
Person never was licensed etc seriously if they can not even track your own program ....... that it is hilarious....they expect people to believe in the system. Only was caught after 5 years by a disgruntled ex-wife..🤣🤣🤣🤣

Driving under the influence is now evenly split among those too stoned to drive or drunk ......
BUT the over projected tax money is suppose to make it ALL ok.
It just goes to show that the government should stick to governing. They should get out of the grass selling business, and let the "more experienced sellers" take over.
 
It seems most of us have some doubts about the motives behind many of the FDA's "rulings". We definitely had misgivings about the Covid fiasco. The opioid prescriptions, and many of the RX meds we take ( that all of which can have difficult side effects. ) Marijuana made it's comeback and the Marijuana Industry was born. I don't trust the stuff they try to sell you at the Pot shops. It is starting to come down to doing your own research about controversial "everything".
Many opioid addicted got off the drug by using marijuana and while it’s still a drug, it’s a much less dangerous one and a step to full recovery.

When I first heard about it becoming legal, I was completely against it for many reasons.
I didn’t think selling it in stores would work and wasn’t sure what type of store would work. Would the prices be fair and would there be other options. When the first stores opened 30 minutes from us, we were really impressed with the product and service. It was a building exclusively for the sale of cannabis and it’s by products.

Here it’s sold in Liquor Stores under the liquor control board. It’s a separate part of the building which is very spacious & organized. There’s a menu and all information needed. Any questions are answered by the staff working there. The quality of product is incredibly impressive and prices fairly reasonable. If you want a larger amount at a better price you can order online or by phoning an order in.

Having said all that, each Canadian citizen of legal age is allowed to grow 4 plants with no size limit as well as having no limit to the amount that can be in storage. Growing for self has its advantages. For travelling the limit is 30 grams.

At one time I was a regular user but now I only indulge occasionally. just like the other drugs I am prescribed. I’m a definite supporter of legal cannabis and how it’s being handled.

There is no rise in car accidents due to cannabis impaired drivers and the amount of illegal grow ops raids and arrests has gone down substantially.
 
Many opioid addicted got off the drug by using marijuana and while it’s still a drug, it’s a much less dangerous one and a step to full recovery.

When I first heard about it becoming legal, I was completely against it for many reasons.
I didn’t think selling it in stores would work and wasn’t sure what type of store would work. Would the prices be fair and would there be other options. When the first stores opened 30 minutes from us, we were really impressed with the product and service. It was a building exclusively for the sale of cannabis and it’s by products.

Here it’s sold in Liquor Stores under the liquor control board. It’s a separate part of the building which is very spacious & organized. There’s a menu and all information needed. Any questions are answered by the staff working there. The quality of product is incredibly impressive and prices fairly reasonable. If you want a larger amount at a better price you can order online or by phoning an order in.

Having said all that, each Canadian citizen of legal age is allowed to grow 4 plants with no size limit as well as having no limit to the amount that can be in storage. Growing for self has its advantages. For travelling the limit is 30 grams.

At one time I was a regular user but now I only indulge occasionally. just like the other drugs I am prescribed. I’m a definite supporter of legal cannabis and how it’s being handled.

There is no rise in car accidents due to cannabis impaired drivers and the amount of illegal grow ops raids and arrests has gone down substantially.
I am glad to see such a positive report, PP! I always felt that Cannabis should be legalized, there was too much hysteria about it and I couldn't understand how alcohol could be legal while people were being arrested for carrying a small amount of the weed! This is an impersonal judgment because I seem to be immune to cannabis in all its forms, same goes for the dreaded opioids! I guess my brain's pleasure centre decided to shut down some years ago! It refuses to get addicted to anything, even caffeine! :)
 
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As an aside, it would be helpful if everyone who hasn't done so display their general location under their username (left column). Otherwise, "here" doesn't take one very far.
 
BUT the over projected tax money is suppose to make it ALL ok.


many states have made legal and it has not stopped the illegal trade one bit .........
Why would a person especially a chronic user pay 50 for what they can get on street for 20 ..... have first hand account from a regular user tried the "store" once then said nope not paying double for less product.
Yep taxes really add up and like many items taxed people work around it ... If one state taxes alcohol heavy..... some buy in bulk at a neighboring state and bring home same goes with cigarettes etc.

not the billions in windfall so many think.
while "legal" crop is often defined by state for potency and purity and even growers are supposed to be licensed and regulated ......... like most all laws it is about enforcement or lack of

in my state a person had a grow operation in a former Costco building ( so you know how big) ......in state capital city........ and sold on street and to all the legal stores for years. Stores did not verify where they purchased etc ( as is written in law) ....state got taxes on end user but not the "industry" producing product .......as they had claimed.... the HONOR system is a JOKE.
Person never was licensed etc seriously if they can not even track your own program ....... that it is hilarious....they expect people to believe in the system. Only was caught after 5 years by a disgruntled ex-wife..🤣🤣🤣🤣

Driving under the influence is now evenly split among those too stoned to drive or drunk ......
BUT the over projected tax money is suppose to make it ALL ok.
Great points, Jeni.

Not too many years ago it was the casinos that were going to have us rolling in tax money and all our schools would be wonderful. Like anything else in the gambling world, the house always wins and the rest of us are suckers. Now the businesses around the casinos have all turned into strip joints and bars and the suicide rate has soared.

I think the generation that was overly frightened of marijuana has passed on and now we have our generation left, the one that laughed hysterically at Reefer Madness and told each other lies that were just as far fetched in favor of the drug.

No one wants to take medical marijuana away from the people who really benefit, but those people and conditions are few. It's not some kind of medical miracle. People have been self medicating with it for a century and the problems are still there. Most conditions are better treated by other drugs, ones that are easier to measure and control. My brother had been a heavy pot user since 1966, but when he got cancer he couldn't stand it at all, it made him feel even worse.

I wish we could have just reduced the penalties of being caught with it to a fine or a few nights in jail -- like a DUI -- and not had to go to the other extreme of producing it and encouraging it.
 
As an aside, it would be helpful if everyone who hasn't done so display their general location under their username (left column). Otherwise, "here" doesn't take one very far.
A valuable point, Devi. I used to be a "Proud Bluenoser" and will put it back up. I forgot to do that! Does everyone in North America know what a Bluenoser is, though? And there are those who don't like to give away personal details, even if they are vague!
 
A psychiatrist's view.

"I have repeatedly seen adolescents’ lives turned and twisted by devotion to cannabis in ways that change the trajectory of their future. On the one hand, I know epidemiology shows that these disasters are a small minority of those who ever try cannabis. But, on the other hand, I have seen the wrecks and know that harm is possible, even when it is not the norm."

Research has shown that cannabis use is associated with an increased risk for an earlier onset of psychotic disorders such as schizophrenia. There are also a significant number of people who become violent when they use it and another group who just lose all motivation for anything other than using the drug. I guess we as a society have decided the loss of these people is worth the benefits.
 
A psychiatrist's view.

"I have repeatedly seen adolescents’ lives turned and twisted by devotion to cannabis in ways that change the trajectory of their future. On the one hand, I know epidemiology shows that these disasters are a small minority of those who ever try cannabis. But, on the other hand, I have seen the wrecks and know that harm is possible, even when it is not the norm."

Research has shown that cannabis use is associated with an increased risk for an earlier onset of psychotic disorders such as schizophrenia. There are also a significant number of people who become violent when they use it and another group who just lose all motivation for anything other than using the drug. I guess we as a society have decided the loss of these people is worth the benefits.
No one in Canada is an advocate of selling Cannabis to adolescents, Della! It is illegal here because the brain is still developing. And we've kept alcohol legal, even though many get addicted to it. We as a society HAVE to decide what's best for the vast majority! If we had to take every potential harm to someone into consideration our choices in entertainment, pleasure, food, legal drugs, would be very limited! And, trust me, I've had to deal with many desperate cases in my past, caused by alcoholism, gambling addictions and drugs so I know what CAN happen and felt terrible for those caught up in addictions at the time, but to forbid it all is unrealistic and wrong in my eyes! We should do what they do in Finland, they have amazing facilities and ways to help those with addictions!
 
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