Childless Couples....Selfish?

The issue isn't individuals but large masses of the population.

But I'm sure you realize this and are just deflecting from the real problem and its causes.

This discussion isn't honest at all.
 
While some may view childlessness as a rejection of societal expectations or a lack of responsibility, others see it as a legitimate choice and a reflection of personal autonomy and fulfillment. It is essential to recognize the complexities and nuances surrounding this issue and avoid making blanket judgments.
 

Paco Dennis said:
personal autonomy and fulfillment
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Isn't that just saying "selfishness" with lipstick on the pig?

This isn't complex or nuanced. It's a willful choice of species extinction in the name of personal gratification, exercising privilege without accepting the responsibility that earns it.
 
That said, I think whether people want to have children is entirely up to them. If they want to have children and have an infertility problem, then I hope they are able to afford the options, etc., that are available to them, or to adopt or whatever.

There are a lot of reasons for not wanting to have children, and I think it is super wrong to judge anyone for their own choice in this matter. This is not a society's decision to make.
 
A new web article today provides current societal personal attitude reasons for this dated thread:

People Are Sharing The Vulnerable Reasons They're Not Having Children, And It's Beyond Eye-Opening

Personally, I never married although I made enough money by time I was in my 30's, because of the reality I might not be able to support a wife and family long term. Sadly have expected that I would not live long due to a splenic artery pseudoaneurysm at age 20 of my own fault that has flared up all my adult life due to occasional hemorrhages.

And have been up front and careful not to put women in a position without them understanding that. So although I have much others might envy in my adventurous life, few men in balance would choose the burden of my life overall.

That noted, I did come from a large loving family and generally love women and children though now ironically find myself still alive at age 76.
 
WheatenLover said:
That said, I think whether people want to have children is entirely up to them. If they want to have children and have an infertility problem, then I hope they are able to afford the options, etc., that are available to them, or to adopt or whatever.

There are a lot of reasons for not wanting to have children, and I think it is super wrong to judge anyone for their own choice in this matter. This is not a society's decision to make.
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Completely agree, you have to devote your life and love to that child from baby to adult. Not a decision to be taken lightly if you're a loving parent. Personal decision, no outsiders involved.
 
My younger sister and husband have never had children. It was his decision, and I think my sister suffered because of it. He was the only child of an only child, and the result is the family name will never carry on. My sister told me in confidence she hated it when people would say....."and how many children do you have"? She would have made a wonderful mother because she loved children and entertained them with her puppets and lovely drawings. I suppose she does have a child (the husband) who wants to be waited on all the time.
 
David777 said:
A new web article today provides current societal personal attitude reasons for this dated thread:

People Are Sharing The Vulnerable Reasons They're Not Having Children, And It's Beyond Eye-Opening

Personally, I never married although I made enough money by time I was in my 30's, because of the reality I might not be able to support a wife and family long term. Sadly have expected that I would not live long due to a splenic artery pseudoaneurysm at age 20 of my own fault that has flared up all my adult life due to occasional hemorrhages.

And have been up front and careful not to put women in a position without them understanding that. So although I have much others might envy in my adventurous life, few men in balance would choose the burden of my life overall.

That noted, I did come from a large loving family and generally love women and children though now ironically find myself still alive at age 76.
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I like your practical realistic approach.
 
Marie5656 said:
I am one who chose to be child free. Having children is not mandatory...and there are too many people out there who should never have had children. I have a step daughter and two step grandkids. Plus a nephew and two cool nieces. Good enough for me.
I never felt I would be a good parent
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Same here. I never felt I would be a good parent either. Why would I be? Neither of my parents were nor my siblings (well, the ones I've met).
 
Since there are well over 8,000,000,000 humans on the planet, I doubt by Thursday we'll be extinct. We are living longer, and there are way more of us. That is a massive use of the planet's finite resources. With unchecked overpopulation, we'll be slaughtering each other for blades of grass. The fact that we can multiply to oblivion does not mean we have to. And attaching "selfishness" labels to other's choices goes into the "who in the hell cares" file.
 
officerripley said:
Same here. I never felt I would be a good parent either. Why would I be? Neither of my parents were nor my siblings (well, the ones I've met).
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Sorry to hear that. Just for me, I felt when I was younger I was not responsible enough to be a good mom. I would never hurt my kids if I had them, Just never saw me as mom material.
I have been in several relationships...but married just once..in my 40s. So even if I DID want kids, I felt it was too late....just did not want to be a 60 year old mom of a teenager, LOL
 
The wrong people are having the most children these days. Nearly half of Gaza's population is under the age of 18 with many women having ten or even more children. That's why we hear of so many children being killed when Israel bombs Hamas terrorists.
 
I chose just about the most leftist source available above.

Of course they entirely miss the point about what we already know has been tried and failed.
 
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