Has anyone not had covid as far as you know?

[Paco Dennis]

I haven't got Covid, but I did get the flu real bad a year or two before Covid. I am due to get the jab this Feb.. Now after reading this debate, I have no idea what I will do. I will wait patiently until about a week before, and then decide. Who knows what the world will be like then!

 

[Rindee]

lol - did you, maybe, flunk math as well as science??

Yeah you should leave.

You cant refute the numbers so you just leave. Typical.

The math is correct. Us pop approx 368 mill, 1.1 died. How much is that? Type into google if you want what is 1.1 million out of 368 million.

Then type in 1.1 mill out of 112 mill.

Hmmm, lets see....36 mill out of 368 is 10%, 3.6 mill out of 368 is 1%, so 1,1 mill must be lower than 1 percent!

Uhmmmm 11.2 mill out of 112 is 10%, 1.2 mill out of 112 mill is 1 percent so 1.1 must be lower.

Huh, stumped here. Anyone want to explain to me what I did wrong!

I love comments that just make a statement that makes no sense or explains nothing, then leaves pretending to 'drop the mike' like you just created the world!

I didn't just drive by hospitals, I was actually in one with the disease. Some cities had it much worse than others. New York City was particularly bad. My sister-in-law is a nurse practitioner and worked in one of those over run hospitals.

Dr. Fauci actually said that the numbers were probably much worse than first reported and he reminded us that if someone had covid and also had diabetes or any other comorbidity "They still died of Covid."

I don't watch as much TV as you seem to think I do, practically none, but I've read an entire book about the Spanish (actually started in Kansas) Flu. I never encountered a word about experimental vaccines causing more deaths than the flu itself. Vaccines were not in common use until the 1040's.

Covid is diagnosed from genetic material taken from the nose of the patient.

I didn't say they were in common use...I said experimental. The aspirin, also in that phase, caused massive deaths from internal bleeding.

 

[Paco Dennis]

The "arm chair quarterbacks". The real problem with that is it never changes the outcome.

 

[Ted51]

Those who have not had it are very fortunate. I have had it about four times now. The last time was by far the worse. And I have all the injections as well.

 

[January]

A bit of advice, don't believe all you see on tv, oh wait!! Of course it was real, you saw it on television!!! Also, there isn't, and never has been a test to identify a specific virus, you go to the doctor, sick, and he tells you that you have a virus, no test done to determine this, why? Because there isn't one. So how can you say half a million died from it when all the proof you have, is what you read or saw on the news? Think, or research, before you type.

Of course it wasnt real, Rindee says so. Don t believe what the news or the television or suchlike says - believe Rindee because her anecdotal experience in one rural area says so. She drove by 2 hospitals ,after all.

of course there are tests to determine which virus you have - multivalent PCRs test for Covid, influenza, RSV, rhinovirus (and whooping cough)

 

[Rindee]

Of course it wasnt real, Rindee says so. Don t believe what the news or the television or suchlike says - believe Rindee because her anecdotal experience in one rural area says so. She drove by 2 hospitals ,after all.

of course there are tests to determine which virus you have - multivalent PCRs test for Covid, influenza, RSV, rhinovirus (and whooping cough)

PCR tests are used for CSI, yes, DNA not determining viruses by specifics...omg, you are a sad person.

 

[January]

Very good info! Also, TB still kills over a million a year worldwide, and it's airborne, yet, nothing said or done about that.

I'm sure lots is said and done about that - we just don't hear much about it since TB is very rare in western countries now.

 

[January]

PCR tests are used for CSI, yes, DNA not determining viruses by specifics...omg, you are a sad person.

not sure what point you are making here - why would PCR's test check for DNA specifics? what purpose would adding huge expense to cost of a PCR be?

not sure point of jibe about sad person either

 

[January]

Have you ever read the package insert of a vaccination, lets say MMR? It clearly states a risk of autism, seizures, etc. You are grossly mistaken here, and should watch your words typed in anger, not supported by accurate information.

Yes, many times.

Since link to autism has been well and truly debunked, there is no such warning risk on package inserts.

 

[Rindee]

not sure what point you are making here - why would PCR's test check for DNA specifics? what purpose would adding huge expense to cost of a PCR be?

not sure point of jibe about sad person either

Of course you are not sure, I'm not surprised lol! Maybe one day you will be able to figure that out, at least lol!

 

[Buckeye]

I'm sure lots is said and done about that - we just don't hear much about it since TB is very rare in western countries now.

In 2021, there were 602 cases of TB in the U.S.

 

[January]

he aspirin, also in that phase, caused massive deaths from internal bleeding.

Of course you are not sure, I'm not surprised lol! Maybe one day you will be able to figure that out, at least lol!

Source of first statement?

Also perhaps you could answer my question rather than making another rude personal jibe.

 

[January]

In 2021, there were 602 cases of TB in the U.S.

Thank you - I would call that rare in a population of 326 million.

I expect numbers are also stable - so also hence we dont hear much about it, there is nothing new to say in the news about it.

But information is there if anyone wants to know

 

[vintageMo]

As of yet, I have not gotten it.

 

[squatting dog]

No one I know has had it. un-vaxxed, same with the wife, brother, sister, daughter, in-laws, and everyone else I know.
Personally, I know of 2 deaths they claimed were covid related. One... my neighbors boy who drowned in a quarry. and 2 my farm partner who died during botched gall bladder surgery. All BS to inflate numbers.

 

[Rindee]

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No one I know has had it. un-vaxxed, same with the wife, brother, sister, daughter, in-laws, and everyone else I know.
Personally, I know of 2 deaths they claimed were covid related. One... my neighbors boy who drowned in a quarry. and 2 my farm partner who died during botched gall bladder surgery. All BS to inflate numbers.

I knew of many whom they claimed died from "it"..from kidney failure, congestive heart failure, complications of diabetes...etc.. Definitely bs to inflate the numbers and push their deadly vax's!

 

[Tazx]

Gee, I'll type real slow so maybe you (and a couple of others) will understand.

First bold - the answer is 0.3% not "0.003 percent"

Second/third bold - the answer is 1%, not "0.01 percent" (0.01 percent would be 1 in 10,000 deaths instead of the actual 1 in a hundred..)

Decimal points mean something. 5th grade math (or maybe 4th..)

lol stumped indeed.

Ok, I just checked a math site and to get the answer in this case you divide the total population by the total amount of deaths. So 368mill divide by 1.1 mill and the answer is 0.003173970108696. So 0.003.

Leaving math aside for a sec you think 1.1 mill is .3 percent of 368 mill?

And the other one is correct also. It is 0.01.

 

[Buckeye]

Ok, I just checked a math site and to get the answer in this case you divide the total population by the total amount of deaths. So 368mill divide by 1.1 mill and the answer is 0.003173970108696. So 0.003.

Leaving math aside for a sec you think 1.1 mill is .3 percent of 368 mill?

And the other one is correct also. It is 0.01.

Well, this is certainly tedious. I've taught Econ and Finance at the University undergrad level, and Managerial Accounting at the Grad level, but I've never had to teach basic grade school math.

Yes, 1% of 368 mil is 3.68 mil, and 0.3% is about 1.1mil. 1.1 divided by 368 is NOT .003%
and Yes 1.1 mil is 1% of the total Covid cases. 1.1 divided by 112 mil is NOT .01%


Here's what Google AI says:

To express a number as a percentage, simply divide the number by the total value you want to compare it to, then multiply the result by 100; essentially, you are converting a fraction to a percentage by making the denominator 100, and adding the percent symbol (%) at the end.

Example:

• To express 25 out of 50 as a percentage:
  • Calculation: (25 / 50) * 100 = 50%.

Key points to remember:

• Fraction to percentage: Divide the numerator by the denominator and multiply by 100.
  
  
• Decimal to percentage: Move the decimal point two places to the right and add a percent sign.
  
  
  Jeebus....

 

[Tazx]

Well, this is certainly tedious. I've taught Econ and Finance at the University undergrad level, and Managerial Accounting at the Grad level, but I've never had to teach basic grade school math.

Yes, 1% of 368 mil is 3.68 mil, and 0.3% is about 1.1mil. 1.1 divided by 368 is NOT .003%
and Yes 1.1 mil is 1% of the total Covid cases. 1.1 divided by 112 mil is NOT .01%


Here's what Google AI says:

To express a number as a percentage, simply divide the number by the total value you want to compare it to, then multiply the result by 100; essentially, you are converting a fraction to a percentage by making the denominator 100, and adding the percent symbol (%) at the end.

Example:

• To express 25 out of 50 as a percentage:
  • Calculation: (25 / 50) * 100 = 50%.

Key points to remember:

• Fraction to percentage: Divide the numerator by the denominator and multiply by 100.
  
  
• Decimal to percentage: Move the decimal point two places to the right and add a percent sign.
  
  
  Jeebus....

Ok, now that your math lesson is over, and you may be right, hell It's been so long since I did math-Philosophy and Military don't use a lot of math-that you could have said anything and I probably would be wrong about it.

But what I find in a lot of forum posts, is people pick out spelling, grammar, MATH (lol), or other issues instead of understanding, responding or answering the post.

Regardless of the math or spelling, the numbers still are as you say around or under 1 percent. So once again, we did all this for 1 percent give or take. Do you think that was right?

I do not. Destroying education, economy, essentially damage our future for the 1 percent is plainly illogical and frankly outright stupid.

I have elderly parents and relatives, most of you do, and many of us are in that age range, so I am NOT saying that all those don't matter of course. But...what have we done to the future of the rest of society that barely were affected by it.

We operate on feelings and doing what we think is the right thing to do instead of logic, common sense and actually what is the right thing to do.

A famous philo Trolly problem...

A version of this moral dilemma was first put forward in 1967 by the British moral philosopher Phillipa Foot, well-known as one of those responsible for reviving virtue ethics.

Here’s the basic dilemma: A tram is running down a track and is out control. If it continues on its course unchecked and undiverted, it will run over five people who have been tied to the tracks. You have the chance to divert it onto another track simply by pulling a lever. If you do this, though, the tram will kill a man who happens to be standing on this other track. What should you do?

Now of course since I mentioned I have people in this vulnerable group, so I in no way want them to suffer or die, but....to sacrifice 5 for the one is insane. There had to be a better way to protect the vulnerable during this time, (the one) without essentially destroying the rest (the five). Insdteag govts rushed, panicked and made the wrong choices.

 

[Buckeye]

Sorry, but you were the one making a big deal about what a small % died. If you're gonna do that, you need to make sure your numbers are not **** up. And given that you can't do basic, grade school math, nothing else you say has any validity.

Having lost people I know and love to Covid, I don't think we did nearly enough. You are apparently okay with old, fat people dying too soon because, well, they're old and fat. Sad.

 

[Della]

I'm sure lots is said and done about that - we just don't hear much about it since TB is very rare in western countries now.

Yes, it is rare in the US, thank goodness. I was exposed to it while in another country and now have to have chest X-rays every few years to see if it's becoming active, so I follow TB news and it's still a big problem in some parts of the world.

Throughout 2020, when there was so much whining about our mild measures of isolation, I was reminded of how we got control of TB in this country. People who had it were forcibly sent to sanitoriums to separate them from the population. This included men who were the sole support of their families, before welfare, young mothers -- it was extreme but it worked.

Oddly, Arkansas has had 100 new cases of TB this month.

 

[Tazx]

Sorry, but you were the one making a big deal about what a small % died. If you're gonna do that, you need to make sure your numbers are not **** up. And given that you can't do basic, grade school math, nothing else you say has any validity.

Having lost people I know and love to Covid, I don't think we did nearly enough. You are apparently okay with old, fat people dying too soon because, well, they're old and fat. Sad.

What you posted is an ignorant post.

First off, I SAID I have elderly people in my family. So why would I want them to die? What you posted was utterly idiotic.

And regardless of the math, still less than 1 percent in all categories. So stop your whining and making stuff up about what I said.

I said there were better ways to have done it.

Normally I don't care when people attempt or do insult me, but because I have forgotten grade school math (who uses that stuff when your retired), you assume my entire knowledge base is stupid?

You know nothing about me but assume a math mistake means what? Do I not speak proficiently? Do I not respond with science and as many facts as I can find? Do I resort to insinuating insults because I take offence to what others have said? No, I do not. I try to convey information as best as possible.

I speak and post with respect as I have learned throughout my life is the best way to get it in return from people that may not even care to. Clearly it doesn't work with you. No problem.

The facts are the numbers were low, 1 percent or less, and you are just deflecting the conversation so you dont have to acknowledge that very fact.

How about this, if you can't be respectful, don't respond to me or my posts.

 

[January]

if you are making a big statement using percentages it is important to get them right.

 

[Tazx]

if you are making a big statement using percentages it is important to get them right.

The 'big' statement as you say, is still big. Still 1 percent or less. Point made.

 

[January]