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hollydolly said:
that actually happens all too often in the uk..people go in for minor operations and end up with sepsis...it's a disgrace !
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I don't know why you are having surgery, but remember you are the patient, it's your body and you call the shots. They do only operate in the mornings, but if they cannot guarentee you a bed for petes sake, wherethe hell will they put you after the surgery? Do't let them put you in the hall in a cot like they did me last Sept. The wall next to the cot had a number on it indicating that was me. There were all kinds of awful stuff going on...I pitched a real bitch and got a private room that had been empty. Went home the next day. Private room was for insurance nenefits only.
Be safe and confident. If this is a elective procedure, plab it out further ahead and have a hard talk with your doctor.
 
dusty said:
I don't know why you are having surgery, but remember you are the patient, it's your body and you call the shots. They do only operate in the mornings, but if they cannot guarentee you a bed for petes sake, wherethe hell will they put you after the surgery? Do't let them put you in the hall in a cot like they did me last Sept. The wall next to the cot had a number on it indicating that was me. There were all kinds of awful stuff going on...I pitched a real bitch and got a private room that had been empty. Went home the next day. Private room was for insurance nenefits only.
Be safe and confident. If this is a elective procedure, plab it out further ahead and have a hard talk with your doctor.
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you talk sense.. however please do remember if I chose to cancel the surgery I will go back onto a very long NHS waiting list that's my dilemma...
 
hollydolly said:
No they're saying that the lack of beds is how it rolls... and made worse by the fact that it's winter and many more people are sick, and many older people are bed blocking.. and now the flu pandemic

They can't give me an afternoon appointment ecause the surgeon opeartes in the morning, which is why i have to be there early..

I did ask the assesment nurse given how much it's going to cost me, and also the incnvenience of it.. if it was possible to call the day before and let me know not to come.. and she said no... they can't do that.

personally I can't see why not, but that's what she said... so my only option will be to call them myself close to my admission date and see what they say about postponing my operation..

WWhat will be infuriating tho' is if I speak to one person who says it's fine and to come in.. and then find another peson when I get there telling me.. there's no bed... I will seriously be upset,....not however as upset as the person in A&E in Manchester oday who got so angry about having to wait , staned the nurse, and she is reported to be fighting for her life tonight...:(

I actully cried when i read that.. because medical staff are under humungous pressure in this country with the lack of hospitals and funding.. and zillions more immigrants using the services now ....it just needs a situation like this , for medical staff to refuse to work in certain hospitals or departments
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I read that earlier, such a terrible thing to do. I hope the nurse survives and makes a good recovery.

Fortunately, I have not had to attend A&E myself but, I know people who have and they say that it is usual now to have to wait for at least 12 hours to see a doctor.

I think part of the problem is that in some areas people are unable to get GP appointments so, they go to A&E instead and, of course, you get people with mental health problems and people with addictions also attending A&E because they need help and there seems to be few places that they can go other than A&E.

I guess they only have a certain number of surgical beds and, if there's a medical emergency which requires surgery, that is given priority over a patient who has a scheduled non-emergency surgery. Hopefully, when you do have your surgery, it will all go smoothly and they won't cancel but, the not knowing is stressful.
 
Being one year shy of 90 doesn't mean life is over. There is still plenty to do and to enjoy. Life can still be exciting, good and also not so good.

Left: Pruning Palm Trees can cause inconveniences. I got this splinter out just before I was about to make a doctor's appointment. Right: On YouTube, I watched cats performing amazing feats. Well, it must have been a hungry stray cat that opened the latch to our chicken coop and killed one chicken. My wife cleaned up the mess and buried the chicken on our pet cemetery together with many dogs, cats, snakes, birds, and other pets.

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Pruning our Palm Trees with a lithium battery powered pole saw. I do what I still can do, but calling on my son-in-law and hiring people for stuff I can no longer do. Old age imposes limitations, but overgrown vegetation is a fire hazard.

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Left: 3 pairs of eyes always studying intensely whatever I am doing, never leaving me out of their sight. And they know my habits: when I pull up my shorts, they rush to the door knowing I'll take them for our daily walk. But when I get my blue jeans on, then they get really excited; yes, I will take them with me for a ride in my car. --- SoCal Edison cut off our electricity already 3 times as fire prevention. Even though the temperature in my bedroom stays in the upper 60ties unheated at night, I am covering my senior guy with a blanket. Licking my hand is his way of saying, "Thank you."

Right: Yesterday, my son-in-law helped me to clean up the Santa Ana Wind damage. We brought the Eucalyptus firewood out on our side-entrance street (it's officially called an "Avenue," LOL) and I advertized it as free give-a-way, worth $$. 24 hours later, it was gone. Trying to sell the wood is too much hassle and not worth the effort.

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hollydolly said:
if I chose to cancel the surgery I will go back onto a very long NHS waiting list that's my dilemma...
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Maybe you could plan a backup 'plan b', such as, if you show up and get turned away for no bed, implement your plan (such as, breakfast at the best place there is, some sort of special treat like a short trip to the most fun spot you know).

It would be just miserable to fast and everything and then have to wait and do it all over again.
 
hollydolly said:
you talk sense.. however please do remember if I chose to cancel the surgery I will go back onto a very long NHS waiting list that's my dilemma...
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The surgery must be imperative and timely. We have the same problem over here. I hate this for you, it sure doesn't help with the aniexty of just having to have surgery. Good luck, hope you do well.
 
HoneyNut said:
Maybe you could plan a backup 'plan b', such as, if you show up and get turned away for no bed, implement your plan (such as, breakfast at the best place there is, some sort of special treat like a short trip to the most fun spot you know).

It would be just miserable to fast and everything and then have to wait and do it all over again.
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I can't do that much as that sounds like a nice plan because I'm not allowed to drive to the hospital because when I get discharged I'm not allowed to drive for a couple of weeks at least.....I have to take an expensive cab to the hospital which is not in my town...... so if they cancel my surgery, I have to take an expensive cab in return... whereas, my daughter has planned to come down here which is a 2 hour drive for her.. and collect me from the hospital the day of my discharge....so it will be a total disaster all around if they cancel the surgery on the day
 
Day 6 of my rare head cold virus and seem to finally be improving! But endured an embarrassing episode due to my groggy state.

While at a supermarket at 10am, accidentally dropped my car keys atop the driver's seat after some violent coughing after opening the door due to my head cold sinus drainage out in the cool 51F temperature. Didn't realize such until returning to my Forester with groceries and seeing it on the seat through the locked door glass window! Well had a second key set back at home.

Phoned a locksmith that would charge $130 but instead being cheap, took the perishables out of 3 bags into one bag leaving the rest in a shopping cart near my car then walked 2 sweating miles carrying about 13 pounds (gallon of milk and half gallon orange juice plus more) before getting on a metro bus. Uber/Lyft or a taxi might have been $20>$30. I took buses back a $4 cost to my transit Clipper Card. At least I got some exercise and it does reflect on my fitness walking a lot.

Fortunately my modest groceries were still in the cart when I returned and no low-lifes had looked into my old car as I expected that was a bit of a gamble. Was the first time I've been outdoors this week since becoming sick. Could have called a taxi or a couple neighbors but didn't want to possibly get others sick. An extended 3 hour tour from when I left my residence.
 
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hollydolly said:
yes but in the meantime my condition gets worse......I'm not going in for plastic surgery , I'm going in for abdominal surgery...which will get worse the longer I'm waiting..
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@hollydolly You have my sympathy. I already had more than a dozen surgeries, including for cancer. Without the surgeries, I would no longer be alive. Keep a stiff upper lip. GOOD LUCK TO YOU, AND BE BRAVE! Today is the first day of the rest of your life. Be positive and believe in your own strength. Believe in the God who believes in you.
 
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7am here,been waiting since 4am for ambulance for wife,grrrr,,,,,,,,she had a fall in the night,twice in 3days,,,,,
they just phoned and said another 3 hrs most likely,,,they said can i bring here in,i had to wake neighbour to help me get here off floor.
 
Hollydolly, I wish you all the very best for a good outcome from all this messing around.
I've only had two encounters with the NHS and that was some years ago. The first one was when I had developed a hernia which was going to need repaired. Every hospital had a 3 month waiting list - just to see a registrar. Suspicious? Then I was given an appointment for a pre-op assessment which meant a 40 mile to the hospital, only to be told that I didn't need one.
Another 3 month wait and went to hospital for the op. I was told that I was first on the list, but in NHS speak, that meant last.

The Op itself - with a local anaesthetic, was like something out of Monty Python. Later back in the ward, the surgeon came round and after complaining that I had to wait 6 months for a 20 min op, she said that I should have come straight to her and she would have done it privately with very little wait.

After resting for 2 hours, I was discharged. I couldn't really walk, so Mrs.L had to look for a wheel chair and then get us to somewhere where she could collect me in the car. I have no problem with the surgeons, but the admin is appalling.

I the second case, I developed a PVD in my left eye while out shopping. I headed for the nearest optometrist who saw me right away, diagnosed the problem and arranged an out of hours appointment at the hospital. There the on-call consultant confirmed the problem and arranged an early appointment for the following day where my eye was repaired by laser stitching. I was truly impressed by the attention and efficiency of the staff. This was at the SAME hospital as my hernia op. They even arranged coffee and sandwiches fro Mrs. L and myself.

Everything is fine now, but if I needed minor surgery again, I would certainly consider going privately.


p.s. Our American friend asked how much the treatment cost. We looked surprised and explained that it was free at the point of delivery. She had some trouble taking this in.
 
Capt Lightning said:
Hollydolly, I wish you all the very best for a good outcome from all this messing around.
I've only had two encounters with the NHS and that was some years ago. The first one was when I had developed a hernia which was going to need repaired. Every hospital had a 3 month waiting list - just to see a registrar. Suspicious? Then I was given an appointment for a pre-op assessment which meant a 40 mile to the hospital, only to be told that I didn't need one.
Another 3 month wait and went to hospital for the op. I was told that I was first on the list, but in NHS speak, that meant last.

The Op itself - with a local anaesthetic, was like something out of Monty Python. Later back in the ward, the surgeon came round and after complaining that I had to wait 6 months for a 20 min op, she said that I should have come straight to her and she would have done it privately with very little wait.

After resting for 2 hours, I was discharged. I couldn't really walk, so Mrs.L had to look for a wheel chair and then get us to somewhere where she could collect me in the car. I have no problem with the surgeons, but the admin is appalling.

I the second case, I developed a PVD in my left eye while out shopping. I headed for the nearest optometrist who saw me right away, diagnosed the problem and arranged an out of hours appointment at the hospital. There the on-call consultant confirmed the problem and arranged an early appointment for the following day where my eye was repaired by laser stitching. I was truly impressed by the attention and efficiency of the staff. This was at the SAME hospital as my hernia op. They even arranged coffee and sandwiches fro Mrs. L and myself.

Everything is fine now, but if I needed minor surgery again, I would certainly consider going privately.


p.s. Our American friend asked how much the treatment cost. We looked surprised and explained that it was free at the point of delivery. She had some trouble taking this in.
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I understand this Capt... I have almost always during my marriage had private treatment... my medical isurance was with BUPA, a joint policy with the estranaged O/H... one of the very first things my husband did when he left , was to cancel my medical insurance... so now I'm at the mercy of the NHS waiting lists :(
 
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HoneyNut said:
Maybe you could plan a backup 'plan b', such as, if you show up and get turned away for no bed, implement your plan (such as, breakfast at the best place there is, some sort of special treat like a short trip to the most fun spot you know).

It would be just miserable to fast and everything and then have to wait and do it all over again.
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Good idea!
Edit: Read your reply @hollydolly . Too bad.
 
David777 said:
Day 6 of my rare head cold virus and seem to finally be improving! But endured an embarrassing episode due to my groggy state.

While at a supermarket at 10am, accidentally dropped my car keys atop the driver's seat after some violent coughing after opening the door due to my head cold sinus drainage out in the cool 51F temperature. Didn't realize such until returning to my Forester with groceries and seeing it on the seat through the locked door glass window! Well had a second key set back at home.

Phoned a locksmith that would charge $130 but instead being cheap, took the perishables out of 3 bags into one bag leaving the rest in a shopping cart near my car then walked 2 sweating miles carrying about 13 pounds (gallon of milk and half gallon orange juice plus more) before getting on a metro bus. Uber/Lyft or a taxi might have been $20>$30. I took buses back a $4 cost to my transit Clipper Card. At least I got some exercise and it does reflect on my fitness walking a lot.

Fortunately my modest groceries were still in the cart when I returned and no low-lifes had looked into my old car as I expected that was a bit of a gamble. Was the first time I've been outdoors this week since becoming sick. Could have called a taxi or a couple neighbors but didn't want to possibly get others sick. An extended 3 hour tour from when I left my residence.
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Oh no! That is a bad day!
 
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