I go to church with my wife

I forgot, she was walking along a busy downtown street and I stopped and offered her a lift.
Very cute and 30ish. No telltale clothes to give her off. We hit it off and became casual friends.

Later that afternoon after dinner and a couple glasses of wine she opened up. She didn't seem
like an addict though. I don't smoke but she didn't smoke Her's either if she had any.
Took her out 4 wheeling in the country narrow roads and stuff along the river other afternoons.
She was a very good acoustic guitar player and singer, much to learn about her i was.

Then she met a Private Contractor and seemed a happy girl. +'s to her!
Never forgot her story about the Priests too.

It was too soon after losing mine but doing off road 4x4 stuff was fun and seemed ok.
4x4 for 20 years or so and 400,000 miles too. My 4x4s went down many a trail. back roads
Mor n 35 states for sure. There is a lot to thank the Lord for, need not expect much more.
 

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JustDave said:
There is a movie that must have been inspired by Walsch. The Answer Man about a guy who made millions on books all based on his personal talks with God. He's trying to live a life of anonymity to avoid his adoring public. It's about God, but hardly faith based, but it takes no position on the reality of God. It stars Jeff Daniels, an actor who I seldom pay attention to. I like this film a lot, but I have a feeling I may be in a small fan club. It's a Romantic Comedy and especially silly, two qualities I like in films.
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try the books I think they are more entertaining - and NO holywood [if it still exists] should NOT make them into films!!
 
JustDave said:
No one can, but why is that even important to you? I spent 50 years of my life searching for proof that there was such a thing as a god. If there was I wanted to know him. I never once considered looking for proof that he doesn't exist, because aside from the fact that it's logically impossible, it wasn't even what I was looking for. My problem was that I never found proof that he did exist, which would be a logical possibility, if there were any testable evidence to be found.
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It isn't important to me. I was just curious if the atheists could back up their claim.
 

Who_so_ever said:
I was just curious if the atheists could back up their claim.
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Don't mistake the statements, "I don't believe there is a god," or "I believe there is a god," as positive claims that require proof. They are descriptions of one's belief, and should be accepted as such.

In the past, when an evangelical type insisted to me that there was a god, I would want to know the proof. This was not meant as a bristled challenge. At that time of my life, I was seeking information, nothing more. I actually thought there was a likelihood of a god at that time, or at least I wanted one. But the very question put the claimant in a defensive mode.

I knew a guy in a group who never said this directly to me, but he would describe how when someone would ask him to prove his God was real, he would return the request as, "Well, you prove he is not!" Then he would stick out his chest in triumph as if someones inability respond to his command, supported his own position. He never answered the question of course, and in fact I don't even know if someone had even asked him to support his belief. I thought it was totally unhelpful, but amusing in a not so flattering way.

I think if the theist wants to convert others, his strongest argument is one of faith. One can accept that the theist could understand whatever god that pleased him on the basis of faith, because by definition, it's understood that faith is personal and falls in the category of emotion like love. You don't have to defend it. It is just an explanation for your personal situation, although it doesn't prove anything. But it may draw some converts to your belief.
 
Mr. Ed, if your wife is a true believer in the one true God, & salvation through Christ Jesus, by you attending church services with her she might be hoping in her heart you will eventually turn to the one true God in belief too. It is a very great heartache for a true believer in God when someone they love doesn't. (Knowing they will miss out on Salvation through Christ Jesus.
 
VaughanJB said:
Being a non-believer isn't so simple. For example, there are people who don't believe in a God, or heaven, but still believe in some form of after-life.

I happen to not believe in an after life at all. Once I'm done, I'm done. It can be a tough thing to face. That our lives are finite, and that we just end. There is no "darkness" to overcome, there's simple nothing. It's a drastic idea. But I accept it. I'd love to live forever, but it's just not how things are.

The idea that a "father" overlooks us, cares for us, loves us - it's really comforting. But again, as a non-believer, I must face that idea that no-one cares, that I stand alone, and that the human experience can be a caring thing (immediate family) or a lone ride.

It's a mistake to imagine that being a non-believer is an easier ride. On the contrary, I think it's the toughest. I'd love to be comforted, but it's just not happening. So each and every day is what is important. Love each minute, each hour, it may be your last.
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I think you are correct is judging the non-believer path to be the harder path to follow.

I have walked that road and it is a lonely one. You are your own judge and jury. I judged myself to be inadequate and unworthy. I did not know happiness as I have experienced it since I responded to a call the seemed to come from a place deep within my emptiness. My "Yes, Lord" response was the day I set my foot on another path, the path of faith and growth.

I was 33 at the time and am now 82. I have forgiven myself for my perceived inadequacies and am able to forgive others for theirs. My inner self is at peace. It is the peace that surpasses all understanding.
 
Here in Oz we sorta get 'bombarded' by the mega usa preacher programs and their leaders and I guess I've listened and seen them all overtime!

today caught a quick whiff of CrefloDollar - watched him from time to time over the years and he does have a style that holds the attention of his congregation and viewers. Watched part of his sermon today and having done a bit of bible studies myself - he certainly does do his research well [or someone does for him] - and as a presenter [having trained in that field also] he has a "capturing style" and can hold attentions. But heh I ain't no American so just wondering how people on here especially with some grasp of the scriptures find his "credibility" as an authentic preacher. Don't worry too much about his style I happen to like it!!
 
Elsie said:
Mr. Ed, if your wife is a true believer in the one true God, & salvation through Christ Jesus, by you attending church services with her she might be hoping in her heart you will eventually turn to the one true God in belief too. It is a very great heartache for a true believer in God when someone they love doesn't. (Knowing they will miss out on Salvation through Christ Jesus.
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I was married and had 2 children when I was a devoted Christian. 8 years later we divorced and she had custody. I stopped believing in the Christ myth, but understand it and think it is very important to those who use it.

Not everyone who is Christian has great heartache if their mate thinks different. Ed does your wife have great heartache because of who u are.? :)
 
smiley said:
Here in Oz we sorta get 'bombarded' by the mega usa preacher programs and their leaders and I guess I've listened and seen them all overtime!

today caught a quick whiff of CrefloDollar - watched him from time to time over the years and he does have a style that holds the attention of his congregation and viewers. Watched part of his sermon today and having done a bit of bible studies myself - he certainly does do his research well [or someone does for him] - and as a presenter [having trained in that field also] he has a "capturing style" and can hold attentions. But heh I ain't no American so just wondering how people on here especially with some grasp of the scriptures find his "credibility" as an authentic preacher. Don't worry too much about his style I happen to like it!!
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Quite a few years ago I enjoyed listening to CrefloDollar, until for some reason he was no longer on any of my t v channels. I receive only free Basic channels.
 
Hi all, I still go to church with my wife however I sit in an adjacent room to the sanctuary.
last Sunday I spoke to who was my pastor at the time I was preparing to serve as corrections Chaplin at bible college. I needed a license to preach and was awarded one by my church.
I was to report to the deacons regarding ministry endeavors.
The pastor was away and the deacons were searching for someone to preach so I volunteered. I learned the church had no intention to let me preach so I quit preaching and begin question everything about church and religion.
last Sunday my former pastor was at church and I confronted him about his friendship to me and voiced his betrayal to me. He asked if I believed in god I told him no.
to everyone who responded to this thread I was going through turbulent times and I appreciate everyone’s concern. I apologize if I upset anyone as a result of my search for answers.
 
Paco Dennis said:
I was married and had 2 children when I was a devoted Christian. 8 years later we divorced and she had custody. I stopped believing in the Christ myth, but understand it and think it is very important to those who use it.

Not everyone who is Christian has great heartache if their mate thinks different. Ed does your wife have great heartache because of who u are.? :)
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If a person is a true believer, they would most definitely have great heartache if their spouse was not saved also! Christians know that if a person dies without Jesus, they go to hell. So yes, we would be extremely heartbroken if our spouse didn't know Him.
 
It was American Baptist but I was preaching as a pulpit filler for other baptist churches. Even then I was skeptical about my belief. I assumed everybody was right about Christianity and as for me I just needed to try harder to make it work.
 
I am a Christian and I occasionally go to catholic church, not protestant churches, because I like formal and solomn way of service. Protestant churches are too noise, too loud and too casual.
My family are third generation Christian, my aunt is a reverend. My family are all gone now. But I feel their love when I step in a church.
 
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Who_so_ever said:
If a person is a true believer, they would most definitely have great heartache if their spouse was not saved also! Christians know that if a person dies without Jesus, they go to hell. So yes, we would be extremely heartbroken if our spouse didn't know Him.
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That's the thing as a former believer, I was into all of that. I remember as little as a year ago I began to have doubts, church services were very persuasive with songs of praise and prayer to the point of brainwash. That is why faith is important to christianity because other it is totally unbelievable.
I asked myself why do I believe? The answer was always because somebody convinced me to believe at a young age. I never questioned the information because I trusted my parents but they were just as mystified as the church or churches they served in.
It was hard for me to imagine how wrong they were. As I matured I realized their parenting skills were poorly implemented and as far as my dad was concerned he had a ton of issues he passed down to my brothers and me. I can see that now whereas before I assumed they were good parents because I did not know better.
 

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