Gunmen open fire at Bondi Beach in Sydney.

[Warrigal]

I'm cutting Frydenberg some slack here. For him this is a personal issue, and he let go at Sarah Ferguson on the ABC with a lot of passion. His anger was for his children who go nowhere without being in the presence of armed guards.

I am reluctant to take anything SKY News commentators say but in this case I stayed listening and began to see what Frydenberg wanted to make clear about his reality.

ABC interview Jos Frydenberg - Search Videos

 

[Warrigal]

This FB reel was posted by a muslim member of NSW state parliament. His name is Jihad Dib and he is a warm, gentle man for whom I have great respect.

At Bondi this morning I joined more than 1000 lifeguards and the wider community for silent reflection and a moment of healing. This week has been incredibly hard but we have seen the best of humanity in times of darkness. Let’s be inspired by the symbolism of standing shoulder to shoulder and continue to show acts of kindness and compassion as we care for each other in the days, weeks and months ahead. | Jihad Dib MP

 

[Wombat]

The guns the shooter used were legal, like most Australians I thought they had been banned years ago

 

[spookycat2]

This may not be a popular opinion, but I believe where more citizens are armed and trained, it wouldn't take many episodes like that to put an end to gun violence.

 

[Warrigal]

This may not be a popular opinion, but I believe where more citizens are armed and trained, it wouldn't take many episodes like that to put an end to gun violence.

More guns just lead to more deaths. The corollary is less guns deliver less mass deaths by bullets.

 

[Wombat]

This may not be a popular opinion, but I believe where more citizens are armed and trained, it wouldn't take many episodes like that to put an end to gun violence.

The problem with that theory was that if it was true there would be no gun violence in the US but there is currently a thread about a shooting at Brown University and reports of mass shootings from the USA are far too common.

The vertical line indicates when serious gun control took place after the Port Arthur killings. The problem is that virtually nothing has been done since and gun manufacturers have found ways round the legislation but new legislation including a limit on the number of guns a person can hold will hopefully revise that.

BTW I gave up my gun licence in 1996

 

[Rakaia]

This may not be a popular opinion, but I believe where more citizens are armed and trained, it wouldn't take many episodes like that to put an end to gun violence.

Your opinion is valid, it's equally as valid as a diametrically opposed opinion.
That's the thing with opinions, they're personal and no one can tell that they're wrong because they are your personal beliefs.

 

[George1959]

There are two things for which I really admire and envy the U.S. It's your gun laws and your freedom of speech.

 

[January]

This may not be a popular opinion, but I believe where more citizens are armed and trained, it wouldn't take many episodes like that to put an end to gun violence.

Like works so well in USA???

Oh wait...

That may be your opinion but facts show otherwise.

 

[Lilac]

This may not be a popular opinion, but I believe where more citizens are armed and trained, it wouldn't take many episodes like that to put an end to gun violence.

More guns just lead to more deaths. The corollary is less guns deliver less mass deaths by bullets

Like works so well in USA???

Oh wait...

That may be your opinion but facts show otherwise.

Spookycat2, it's not popular with the people who don't want to recognize it. They would rather give up their freedoms for a false sense of safety & security thinking it's not going to happen because the law forbids an inanimate object. They forget there are wolves walking amongst the sheep & rely on what they consider a sheepdog to protect them.

They want to deflect from the incidences where a civilian sheepdog has defended the sheep. The same with the people who provide "stats & data" on incidents. It's an inconvenient truth that doesn't support their idea &/or agenda.

The news' motto pretty much is "If it bleeds, it leads." It's all about ratings, sensationalism & being the first to "report" news whether the facts are known or even accurate or not when it breaks. It's easy to report on violence & bad things because it draws people to the TV news like moths to a flame. People become fixated on such events & to the rhetoric on the TV to the point that it's true & is the norm for a country where everyone lives like that.

If you want to believe all of what you see on your news there, go ahead, it's your right to form your opinion from it.

However what is extremely rare on the news to see, unless the news is in a position of having to, is to air a report that an armed citizen stopped a bad actor. The last one I remember seeing it on CBS news was an Indiana Mall Shooting that was stopped by a young man in 2022. Police: Armed bystander shot and killed Greenwood Park Mall shooter in just 15 seconds

Even the FBI downplays those statistics. Here's a comparison of the FBI stats to Crime Prevention Center that took a deeper look:

FBI Data Downplays How Often Armed Civilians Stop Mass Shooters, Report Shows

https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/FILE_4924.pdf

Makes you wonder if everyone is shooting one another as you think, how is there anyone in the US left?