Paris under attack - multiple terrorist attacks on Friday night

The French police have stormed the concert hall and it is reported that 100 people have been killed.

The pitiful thing there...the concert was rock and probably young people, another report is they got out maybe fifty of around hundred alive. Hooly Christ no I do not understand this. The numbers are toadly subjective at this point.

Really surveillance up your backside and how do you stop this crap? They had video of the Boston Bombers, did that STOP it? I think not.
 

QuickSilver said:
Tell me again anti-surveillance people.. how we don't need to listen in to phone calls. This had to be a very well coordinated effort...
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In Europe surveillance and mass/mega data collection has been even more intrusive than the US and in less than a year Paris was hit in January with the Charlie Hebdo attacks, then the foiled train attack in France over the summer and now these latest attacks in Paris.

https://www.seniorforums.com/showth...ning-Bigger-Than-The-US-NSA?highlight=program

They already had security experts on tonight saying there is already too much data to go through and some kind of profiling will have to be done simply to narrow down the amount of data to be checked out or investigated. These were random soft target attacks. 100% security can only be close to being guaranteed in a police state. I will never sacrifice freedom for a sense of security.
 
Canadian security experts are stating that there needs to be a more effective means of analysing data rather than increased mass intrusion. They believe that breakdowns often occur after data is collected.
 

QuickSilver said:
Tell me again anti-surveillance people.. how we don't need to listen in to phone calls. This had to be a very well coordinated effort...
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Butterfly said:
Agreed.
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Double that. There will always be a plan that slips through, but without the efforts they security teams put forth, these occurrences would be any where from a monthly to a daily occurrence. Many smaller and larger plots have been thwarted because of what goes on behind the scenes, we just don't get informed of every single plot prevented or all the details every time information is intercepted, as it should be as far as I'm concerned or the people would be in a constant state of panic.
 
As a spinoff I've started a new discussion in Speakers Corner (see Groups under Community at top of this page)
I have been thinking about the power of national songs and invite people who aren't members of this group to join up if you want to join in.
Speakers Corner is for serious discussion. No nonsense is permitted to derail a serious topic and no fighting or disparaging anyone else's posts.
Otherwise there are no rules that the mods haven't already made clear.

Look here https://www.seniorforums.com/group.php?gmid=2205&do=discuss#gmessage2205
 
OK, so France closed their borders, but not the airports. I understand the borders were closed to keep the terrorists from escaping, but how about keeping any additional terrorists from coming in by air? I know they (France's Gov't) know what they're doing, but I can't get a handle on their thinking. Anyone? And, who in their right mind would be flying into Paris at this time? I would think most planes would be very light with passengers, no?
 
Paris: "Allah Akbar"/ "Our prayers are with you".
9/11: "Allah Akbar"/ "God bless America."
Who's side is God on?
Religion doesn't kill. People do. :stop:
 
oldman said:
OK, so France closed their borders, but not the airports. I understand the borders were closed to keep the terrorists from escaping, but how about keeping any additional terrorists from coming in by air? I know they (France's Gov't) know what they're doing, but I can't get a handle on their thinking. Anyone? And, who in their right mind would be flying into Paris at this time? I would think most planes would be very light with passengers, no?
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There are still many entering France by the Eurotunnel. Security is a bit tighter, but it was tight anyway. Those who already had holidays booked are still able to go, and if they are not going near Paris or any of the big cities they'd have no reason to cancel.

One of the terminals at London Gatwick Airport has been evacuated due to a security issue.
 
And a plane load of Syrian "refugees" are arriving in Glasgow today !! Do we know the backgrounds & history of these people ?? Isil members are already living in that Jungle Camp in France, so handy for them to reach the UK.
 
Meringue said:
And a plane load of Syrian "refugees" are arriving in Glasgow today !! Do we know the backgrounds & history of these people ?? Isil members are already living in that Jungle Camp in France, so handy for them to reach the UK.
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I'm sure they would be checked. Not the same as the Calais camps. Anyone can live in those.

These refugees were invited to settle in Scotland. Many Scots wanted to help and they generously offered to take more than their share.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-of-syrian-refugees-arriving-before-christmas

15 families will be living on an island not very far from us: It's an island where we love to go for day long bike trips.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/14/scotland-rothesay-bute-refugees-syria-welcome
 
Meringue said:
This is not a religion, they are members of a Murderous Cult.
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Explain the difference. This certainly is a religion, just one that we happen to hate. So we label it a "cult".
I am not a Muslim hater. I am a one worlder. I look forward to the day when we get rid of the things that divide us into "them and us". We are all "us". I would love to see all religions die a natural death. I have posted here before about my positive experiences with the few Muslims I have met or known. I am disturbed as to the silence of the main stream Muslim communities. Where is their outrage and condemnation of the terrorists and empathy for the Parisians? Why are the Imams not coming forward with a statement? For all of the round the clock news coverage, I have seen nothing about that.
 
What happened to the German people if they spoke out against the Nazis? Against non-Christians in the Middle Ages?

They are afraid. That's why they do nothing.
 
Underock1 said:
Explain the difference. This certainly is a religion, just one that we happen to hate. So we label it a "cult".
I am not a Muslim hater. I am a one worlder. I look forward to the day when we get rid of the things that divide us into "them and us". We are all "us". I would love to see all religions die a natural death. I have posted here before about my positive experiences with the few Muslims I have met or known. I am disturbed as to the silence of the main stream Muslim communities. Where is their outrage and condemnation of the terrorists and empathy for the Parisians? Why are the Imams not coming forward with a statement? For all of the round the clock news coverage, I have seen nothing about that.
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I too have worked with scores of Muslims over the years... doctors.. nurses... respiratory therapists... dietitians... etc.. Normal people... not any overt murderous tendencies. They are just going about their lives.. working, raising families. OF course the mainstream Muslim community has come out to condemn these things.. And without a doubt they will condemn this attack in Paris.. But what do you expect that to accomplish? This radical sect of Islam is not going to be phased by this condemnation... Any more than the violent evangelical and radical Christian groups that advocate murdering abortion doctors or disrupting military funerals are phased by mainstream Christians' condemnation of their actions. Even musing about this shows a degree of Islamophobia.

Feel better now? http://qz.com/550104/muslims-around-the-world-condemn-terrorism-after-the-paris-attacks/

Muslims around the world, from religious leaders and politicians to ordinary people, meanwhile, are condemning the attacks.

In an official statement, Iranian president Hassan Rouhani called the attacks a “crime against humanity.”

In the name of the Iranian people, who have themselves been victims of terrorism, I strongly condemn these crimes against humanity and offer my condolences to the grieving French people and government.


Indonesian president Joko Widodo condemned the “violence that took place in Paris,” and called for more international cooperation to fight terrorism.

Leaders of Arab states called the attacks immoral and inhumane. Qatar’s foreign minister Khaled al-Attiyah denounced the “heinous attacks,” adding, “these acts, which target stability and security in France are against all human and moral values.” Kuwaiti Emir Sheikh Sabah al-Sabah called the attacks “criminal acts of terrorism which run counter to all teachings of holy faith and humanitarian values.” The Saudi foreign ministry called for global cooperation to “root out this dangerous and destructive plague.”

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And Christians believe that EVERYONE needs to accept Jesus as their Savior and believe he died for their sins in order to be saved.. Everyone else will be denied the glory of Heaven...
 
"Even musing about this shows a degree of Islamophobia". ??? Pardon me for thinking. Shame on me. I guess I'll just go over and stand in the corner.

Thank you for posting the site, though. I do appreciate that. Yes. I do feel better. I think the media is doing a disservice by not giving that a much bigger play. I watched several hours of constant rehashing of the same old facts. Many reports of support from Western countries. Nary a mention of the Muslim response.
 

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