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I didn't bother to click on it, TBH. Might be that I could have seen it, but I refuse to give FB or IG additional "hits."
Ex-Prince Andrew Arrested (On His Birthday)
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CallMeKate
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Same here, I can see it but have a terrible dislike for Instagram and skip over those things.
Messy
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Apparently shared confidential information as a trade envoy with Epstein
Andrew shared confidential information with Epstein as trade envoy, files suggest
Which was one of the goals of Epstein's operation. Along with blackmail give the guests anything they want, make them feel comfortable and there's an increased chance they'll become rather chatty.
Andrew shared confidential information with Epstein as trade envoy, files suggest
Which was one of the goals of Epstein's operation. Along with blackmail give the guests anything they want, make them feel comfortable and there's an increased chance they'll become rather chatty.
hollydolly
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..also they were paying him... it was no accident that all his ''friends'' were the super rich...
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Click "watch on youtube"
StarSong
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A lot of internet stuff that's meant to be funny is actually pretty stupid. That's why I don't bother with it.
Exactly. Epstein was a facilitator of deals legal or not. The 'party' setting helped make them happen.
There's a saying-'It's who you know' if one wants to get ahead in life wether it be money, a job, relationship what ever.
Rich and powerful people need and want favors just as much as anyone else. That's how some of them got their wealth and power.
Sunkist
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I can see it even though I don't have an account either. May take a couple of seconds to load.
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same, same !
StarSong
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You're right. Those experiences destroy lives. Virginia Giuffre, a victim who was particularly forthcoming about the exploitation she suffered and how it affected her life, was either murdered or committed suicide (sounds like Epstein's demise, doesn't it???).
People should make no mistake about it, these CHILDREN were well below the age of consent. And the adults involved knew it.
Tragic and nauseating that humans can be so self-centered that in their minds, their personal perverse predilections should trump the physical and mental health of a child. Ugh...
Messy
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The picture they took of him was hideous and he did look like a monster. I thought it was spot on.
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What's even worse , and it's yet to be revealed that some of these victims were babies... ..
Over the years there have been celebrities who have tried to tell the public about what has been going on ... and they've been dismissed as nutters, and mocked .. and in some cases..lost their careers... but they were right....
Messy
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A guy from the CIA who opened his mouth got killed. A Dutch model from the 90s said it about his French partner and others. They locked her up in an asylum.
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Yeah, Andrew's arrest has little to do with Epstein.
It's about using his position and The People's money to make mutually profitable deals with VIPs in Middle-Eastern countries considered unfriendly to (if not enemies of) the UK.
It's about treason, basically.
The details are in Andrew Lownie's latest royal biography, Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York. I read it and my chin was on the floor the whole time.
The Mountbatten formerly known as Prince is a disgusting pig. He and his ex-Mrs are both absolutely wretched.
That didn't work out to well for epstein. It might get the prosecutor's ball rolling and gaining steam if andrew spends some more time in the slammer. Just my opinion but I would bet he would spill the beans on some of the other culprits if things heat up for him. He doesn't have his mama to cover for him anymore.
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Sweat!! Well that would put the cat among the pigeons @Aunt Bea
For those who may not be able to view the above.
During his disastrous BBC interview in 2019, he was asked about a specific sexual assault claim wherein the victim described him as sweating profusely on the dance floor. He then went on to explain that he suffered from a medical condition at the time which made it almost impossible for him to sweat
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Yes, they are at the moment. The Governor General and state governors are the executive branches that perform ceremonial duties and sign legislation into law. They represent the Crown but have very little power. They announce the writs for elections and appoint ministers but it is parliament that calls the shots.
They hand out medals and being non partisan, they can be important in times of national emergency.
StarSong
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Because of morale, or because of the mutual treaties among Commonwealth countries?
Seems a lot of countries have remained part of the Commonwealth but are no longer part of the "realm." I'm not getting how it would dramatically (if at all) affect the AU political structure if your country decided to shed the RF as a figurehead in your government and country.
To be clear, I'm not expressing an opinion either way, just trying to understand how it might materially matter in the running of your country.
For instance, Hollywood, California is part of Los Angeles City and thus under the umbrella of the L.A. mayor and city council. Since the 1940s, however, Hollywood has generally had a mayor (though none since 2008), but it's primarily a promotional position for the entertainment industry — a master of ceremonies appointed by the Hollywood of Commerce to preside over Hollywood parades, the laying of new slabs in the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and similar photo-op events. That kind of thing. Utterly powerless when it came to the actual business of running of Hollywood. It's the kind of thing Tom Hanks might be asked to do in his dotage.
Hollywood runs just fine whether or not there's a current "mayor."
yes I know - but Howard's time is quite a while ago.
and the republic alternative was not well presented and so people voted for status quo rather than risk change.
IMO more people now would be in favour of a republic if it were a well presented model and there was a referendum - but I also think most people are apathetic about the idea and don't want to bother with a referendum or a political campaign (or have money spent o n them) - so the status quo remains, not really because people prefer it but because it isnt important enough to bother changing.
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Sarah Ferguson checked herself into the most expensive wellness clinic in the world as details about her close friendship with convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein ruined her, the Daily Mail can reveal.
The former Duchess of York, 66, fled the UK as she and her ex-husband became embroiled in the growing Epstein scandal which culminated in his arrest on Thursday.
While Andrew was photographed repeatedly in Windsor and then on the Sandringham estate, Ms Ferguson has not been seen in public since her fleeting appearance at her granddaughter Athena’s Christening at St James’s Palace on December 12.
This prompted global speculation about where the former royal has been living - and the Daily Mail has now established that, for much of the time, she has been sheltering in a famous Swiss clinic.
Fergie secretly took refuge in the world-renowned £13,000-a-day Paracelsus Recovery Clinic in Zurich, Switzerland, over a month ago.
A Swiss source told the Daily Mail: ‘Sarah left for Zurich just after Christmas, and stayed until the end of January.
‘She always feels at home at Paracelsus, and knows she’ll get love and attention there, as well as expert health treatment when she’s feeling at her most vulnerable.’
The lakeside clinic offers several different month-long recovery programmes for ultra-wealthy clients. Individuals will have access to 15 medical experts, as well as a chauffeur and a private chef.
Interesting because it means someone else is bank rolling her.. even knowing that's she's very much involved in this Mire....
The former Duchess of York, 66, fled the UK as she and her ex-husband became embroiled in the growing Epstein scandal which culminated in his arrest on Thursday.
While Andrew was photographed repeatedly in Windsor and then on the Sandringham estate, Ms Ferguson has not been seen in public since her fleeting appearance at her granddaughter Athena’s Christening at St James’s Palace on December 12.
This prompted global speculation about where the former royal has been living - and the Daily Mail has now established that, for much of the time, she has been sheltering in a famous Swiss clinic.
Fergie secretly took refuge in the world-renowned £13,000-a-day Paracelsus Recovery Clinic in Zurich, Switzerland, over a month ago.
A Swiss source told the Daily Mail: ‘Sarah left for Zurich just after Christmas, and stayed until the end of January.
‘She always feels at home at Paracelsus, and knows she’ll get love and attention there, as well as expert health treatment when she’s feeling at her most vulnerable.’
The lakeside clinic offers several different month-long recovery programmes for ultra-wealthy clients. Individuals will have access to 15 medical experts, as well as a chauffeur and a private chef.
Interesting because it means someone else is bank rolling her.. even knowing that's she's very much involved in this Mire....
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King Charles was warned as long ago as 2019 that the Royal Family’s name was being ‘abused’ by Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s business associations, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.
In a bombshell email, a whistleblower told the Palace that the former Duke had secret financial links to controversial millionaire financier David Rowland, who was abusing his royal links.
Messages seen by this newspaper also appear to show that Andrew – who was sensationally arrested on Thursday over suspicions of misconduct in public office – allowed Mr Rowland to effectively join in with his official duties.
The cache of emails threaten to draw Charles further into the crisis, triggered by Andrew’s links to Jeffrey Epstein, and allegations he passed potentially confidential and sensitive documents to the convicted paedophile.
Andrew once told Epstein that Mr Rowland was his ‘trusted money man’. The banker and his son Jonathan joined Andrew on trips he made in his official capacity as a taxpayer-funded trade envoy between 2001 and 2011, visiting places such as China and former Soviet states.
Over a period of several years, Andrew repeatedly alerted Mr Rowland to business opportunities arising from his work.
Mr Rowland once gave Andrew’s ex-wife Sarah Ferguson £40,000 to help clear debts and, in 2017, paid off a £1.5 million loan for Andrew.
In August 2019, a whistleblower who had detailed knowledge of Andrew’s business dealings with Mr Rowland sent an email to Charles, then Prince of Wales, via the royal lawyers Farrer & Co, warning of ‘David Rowland’s abuse of the Royal Family’.
In a bombshell email, a whistleblower told the Palace that the former Duke had secret financial links to controversial millionaire financier David Rowland, who was abusing his royal links.
Messages seen by this newspaper also appear to show that Andrew – who was sensationally arrested on Thursday over suspicions of misconduct in public office – allowed Mr Rowland to effectively join in with his official duties.
The cache of emails threaten to draw Charles further into the crisis, triggered by Andrew’s links to Jeffrey Epstein, and allegations he passed potentially confidential and sensitive documents to the convicted paedophile.
Andrew once told Epstein that Mr Rowland was his ‘trusted money man’. The banker and his son Jonathan joined Andrew on trips he made in his official capacity as a taxpayer-funded trade envoy between 2001 and 2011, visiting places such as China and former Soviet states.
Over a period of several years, Andrew repeatedly alerted Mr Rowland to business opportunities arising from his work.
Mr Rowland once gave Andrew’s ex-wife Sarah Ferguson £40,000 to help clear debts and, in 2017, paid off a £1.5 million loan for Andrew.
In August 2019, a whistleblower who had detailed knowledge of Andrew’s business dealings with Mr Rowland sent an email to Charles, then Prince of Wales, via the royal lawyers Farrer & Co, warning of ‘David Rowland’s abuse of the Royal Family’.
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It said: ‘HRH the Duke of York’s actions suggest that his Royal Highness considers his relationship with David Rowland more important than that of his family.’
The whistleblower then sent a second email to Mr Rowland himself, copying in Clive Alderton, Charles’s private secretary, and Mark Bridges, the late Queen’s solicitor at Farrer & Co.
That message said: ‘The evidence provided unequivocally proves that you have abused the Royal Family’s name.’
The email further alleged that Mr Rowland ‘paid HRH The Duke of York to procure a Luxembourg Banking Licence’ for his private bank, Banque Havilland, and included what were claimed to be Andrew’s bank account details.
The whistleblower email forms part of a raft of new MoS revelations about Andrew’s business activities, including:
The ambassador put government staff at the Rowlands’ disposal, while Andrew gave David Rowland his schedule for a trip to Montenegro as UK trade envoy.
It said: ‘HRH the Duke of York’s actions suggest that his Royal Highness considers his relationship with David Rowland more important than that of his family.’
The whistleblower then sent a second email to Mr Rowland himself, copying in Clive Alderton, Charles’s private secretary, and Mark Bridges, the late Queen’s solicitor at Farrer & Co.
That message said: ‘The evidence provided unequivocally proves that you have abused the Royal Family’s name.’
The email further alleged that Mr Rowland ‘paid HRH The Duke of York to procure a Luxembourg Banking Licence’ for his private bank, Banque Havilland, and included what were claimed to be Andrew’s bank account details.
The whistleblower email forms part of a raft of new MoS revelations about Andrew’s business activities, including:
- Andrew told Jonathan Rowland he’d ‘had a very supportive chat’ with PM David Cameron and Labour leader Ed Miliband, apparently at Prince William’s wedding in April 2011, when questions were being raised over his trade envoy position following this newspaper’s publication of the now infamous photograph of him clutching 17-year-old Virginia Giuffre.
- Andrew secretly used an official trade mission to help strike a multi-million-pound deal for his business associates to sell oil to China, with the hope of making ‘tons of money’ with Epstein.
- A British ambassador warned the Government more than two decades ago that Andrew’s behaviour as trade envoy was damaging his country and the Royal Family.
The ambassador put government staff at the Rowlands’ disposal, while Andrew gave David Rowland his schedule for a trip to Montenegro as UK trade envoy.