Shooter killed after driving car into Detroit synagogue with preschool

hollydolly said:
Please do not get me started on this... it will cause both of us to get banned from the forum.... what you msutn't do is believe the official narrative.. we know exactly who was providing the arms to the IRA who caused terror to the whole of the UK for many years
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Notably the flow of funds from the New York Irish to the IRA was significantly less after 9/11.
 
Why we can't just acknowledge that this is a result of the US opening the Pandora's Box that is Iran? We can expect to see more domestic terrorism. These guys have just been waiting for the other shoe to drop.

BTW just watching the cat fight in this tread is entertaining.

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Trade said:
If that's the case then Israel and the US are very much in the wrong.
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You couldn't be more wrong about that.

But I'm assuming you're talking about the current military action in Iran...the Iran that's been funding anti-American/anti-Israel terrorism for over 40 years, has repeatedly broken No Nukes agreements over the past 20 years, are *this close* to successfully creating military-grade nukes, and promised publicly to use them against Israel and the US in particular.
 
seadoug said:
Why we can't just acknowledge that this is a result of the US opening the Pandora's Box that is Iran? We can expect to see more domestic terrorism. These guys have just been waiting for the other shoe to drop.

BTW just watching the cat fight in this tread is entertaining.
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Anti-Jew sentiment has been growing in general all over the world since Oct 10, 2025, and actual violence against Jews started occurring months before the military action in Iran.

The incident in Detroit has nothing to do with Iran. It's antisemitism.
 
Messy said:
Were America, Canada and England evil for bombing Germany?
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That was the last time we were the good guys. That win was for us was like the 1972 season was for the Miami Dolphins. They've been on a downhill slide ever since and so have we.

This war in Iran is going to be a disaster just like Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan were. It will be interesting to see how you and the other "usual suspects" try to spin it into something else. You're going to have to twist yourselves into Pretzels trying. :ROFLMAO:

You know what's ironic? I don't even like Iranians. In fact I don't like any Middle Easterners. Including Israelis. They all give me a case of the ass. But I also think objectively and form my own opinions rather than buying into the propaganda that we are all being bombarded with. And it's very clear to me that the US and Israel are the aggressors in this war.
 
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Pepper said:
I don’t see it as antisemitism. It’s a revenge killing attempt in my opinion
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Not fueled by antisemitism? You know, Detroit is only about 10 minutes from Dearborn.

Also worth noting, the school that exploded in Iran is within 10 minutes from an IRGC missile-launch site. Initially, an IRGC commander admitted to an accidental miss-hap, but that was quickly swept under a prayer rug, of course.
 
Murrmurr said:
But I'm assuming you're talking about the current military action in Iran...the Iran that's been funding anti-American/anti-Israel terrorism for over 40 years, has repeatedly broken No Nukes agreements over the past 20 years, are *this close* to successfully creating military-grade nukes, and promised publicly to use them against Israel and the US in particular.
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I agree with this, although I wasn't the one who made the earlier objection. That said, I'm not sure where I stand on the war. I don't know if it's necessary right now since we have bombed their nuclear facilities. I would like to put an end to Iran's unacceptable behavior for good to be sure, but I'm not sure what it would take to accomplish that. Regime change seems futile at this point unless we carry the war to completion.

But what exactly is completion? I don't know what percentage of the Iranian population can live in peace with a world that still contains non-Muslim parts. Undoubtedly there are some, but now many? And how many of those who would like global peace be killed in a total war? Is unconditional surrender possible with such a fanatically religious country? Remember what we had to do to Japan to obtain unconditional surrender.

Granted this war may eventually come to that, but the cost will be very high, and if China and Russia enter the fray, it could be WW III, and I don't think there would be enough left over for WW IV.
 
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I was born christian ; could have been jewish or muslim or hindu or whatever - so what does that mean we have the right to kill each other for ever and ever?? - grow up guys grow up!!
 
MACKTEXAS said:
Your classification, "revenge tour" apparently refers to the war that started in 2003 from a lie about nuclear weapons in Iraq. No, I did not recal the nationality of the hijackers. I'm otherwise not clear on the point you're making. In the big picture, terrorists think alike in staging terrorist events, so we will most likely expect terrorist acts on our soil that would not have occurred had this war in Iran not started.
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The 911 attacks were an example of asymmetric warfare.

The plan was pure genius and designed to send a message to America by taking out buildings that represented commerce, the military and government. Two of the three were successful, the Twin Towers and the Pentagon but due to the bravery of passengers on the hijacked plane, the Capitol, thought to be the third target, was spared.

Osama bin Laden was born in Saudi Arabia but Iraq was attacked in retaliation.
 
 
Warrigal said:
The 911 attacks were an example of asymmetric warfare.

The plan was pure genius and designed to send a message to America by taking out buildings that represented commerce, the military and government. Two of the three were successful, the Twin Towers and the Pentagon but due to the bravery of passengers on the hijacked plane, the Capitol, thought to be the third target, was spared.

Osama bin Laden was born in Saudi Arabia but Iraq was attacked in retaliation.
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Thanks, and yes, I understand what you're explaining, and remember these facts.

The person I had replied to apparently chose not to answer my question.

Regarding the war of 2003, which was based on a lie, it was partly due to a son wanting wanting to finish what his daddy had failed at in an earlier conflict.
 
This conversation seems to be wandering all over the place. The OP introduced the subject of a would-be murderer deliberately driving a van loaded with explosives into a Jewish preschool. Amazingly, no children were killed.

That is what the subject is supposed to be. Yet, we have somehow segued into the current war with Iran, the war against Iraq, the IRA and England, and whether we should be talking about this subject in the first place. Can we return for a moment to the original subject, which is violent antisemitism? This poisonous mindset has been part of the world seemingly forever, at least since Biblical times.

Look up the story of Purim, a holiday being celebrated by the Jewish religion around this time of year. About 4 centuries before Christ, a bad guy named Haman managed to convince the king of Persia that the Jews were evil and should be exterminated. (Sound familiar?) But what the king didn't know was that his favorite wife, Queen Esther, was one of those Jews. She had the courage to tell the king that she was grieving because she was about to be killed. Instead, Haman ended up being hanged, and the Jews were saved.

What this driver did was in a direct line with Haman, Hitler, and all the other antisemites. It is pure hate, with no logical basis except the need to create a scapegoat. Since he chose a preschool to attack not only shows how evil he was, but probably the level of his insanity.

I think a focused, nonpolitical discussion of antisemitism would be interesting here. Why is this cancer in the human mind always so eager to pop up?
 
Sunny said:
This conversation seems to be wandering all over the place. The OP introduced the subject of a would-be murderer deliberately driving a van loaded with explosives into a Jewish preschool. Amazingly, no children were killed.

That is what the subject is supposed to be. Yet, we have somehow segued into the current war with Iran, the war against Iraq, the IRA and England, and whether we should be talking about this subject in the first place. Can we return for a moment to the original subject, which is violent antisemitism? This poisonous mindset has been part of the world seemingly forever, at least since Biblical times.

Look up the story of Purim, a holiday being celebrated by the Jewish religion around this time of year. About 4 centuries before Christ, a bad guy named Haman managed to convince the king of Persia that the Jews were evil and should be exterminated. (Sound familiar?) But what the king didn't know was that his favorite wife, Queen Esther, was one of those Jews. She had the courage to tell the king that she was grieving because she was about to be killed. Instead, Haman ended up being hanged, and the Jews were saved.

What this driver did was in a direct line with Haman, Hitler, and all the other antisemites. It is pure hate, with no logical basis except the need to create a scapegoat. Since he chose a preschool to attack not only shows how evil he was, but probably the level of his insanity.

I think a focused, nonpolitical discussion of antisemitism would be interesting here. Why is this cancer in the human mind always so eager to pop up?
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No disrespect, but the change in topic is most likely because the thread about the actual war in Iran was locked for further responses. I personally don't think it had run its' course because we are still in a war with Iran but I did see some very political replies that were probably the reason. In the end, we are all passionate about peace in our various countries.
 
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