I speak MY truth

DebraMae said:
The truth can change from one person to the next. The guy who says cilantro tastes like soap is speaking his truth. The guy who says cilantro is needed to make a decent salsa is speaking his truth. Both are telling us their "truth".
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What they are really saying is "In my opinion" Cilantro tastes like soap and "In my opinion" Cilantro is needed to make a decent salsa.
They are stating their opinion, not absolute truth. (In my opinion of course)
 
Interesting concept: In the 1961 Robert Heinlein novel, Stranger in a Strange World, there are "Fair Witnesses", people who have been trained and certified to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. They are the last word in court cases, etc. They cannot lie.

An example given was that if you asked a Fair Witness what color a house was, he'd answer "white" after walking around and verifying that all four walls were white. However, if he walked away and you asked him later what color the house was, he wouldn't swear it was white, because someone might have painted it since he last saw it.

Other than that, "true" is in the eye of the beholder. Children (and too many adults) have the ability to convince themselves that something is "true".

That reminds me of a cute little story: A little boy ran into the house and breathlessly told him mom that there was a lion in the backyard. "A lion?", asked his mother, "Really? A lion? Don't you think it's just the neighbor's big dog?"

"No, really, Mom, it's a lion!"

The mother says, "Now, we've talked about lying and how you need to tell the truth at all times. I want you to go upstairs to your room, think about this a while and talk to God about telling the truth."

The little boy goes upstairs and comes down a little while later.

"Did you have a talk with God?" asked the mother.

"Yes I did. And He said He thought it was a lion at first, too!"
 
Anybody else remember the Rowan & Martin Laugh-In show on TV? It was the first time most of us saw Lily Tomlin. She was not only that Ernestine character (the telephone operator), she also played a 5-year-old kid named Edith Ann who told some pretty wild stories that always ended with "And that's the truth!"
 
IrishEyes said:
Considering the conversations I have been in or overheard this phrase used
I would say it is a way of sending out a hint or warning of
"I will not waver, I will not listen to your side,
I will not concede to being wrong"

That is my "opinion" of about 85% of conversations I have heard or read.
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😐That is NOT what we mean to say!
What we, or at least I, mean to say is that the foregoing is merely my opinion ie not to be taken as any sort of settled answer to a question.
 
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gruntlabor said:
😐That is NOT what we mean. to say!
What we, or at least I, mean to say is that the foregoing is merely my opinion ie not to be taken as any sort of settled answer to a question.
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I don't think I referred to anyone from SF in that post and if anyone here has posted "My Truth" I have not seen it.
I was speaking of conversations and texts from family and friends. I hope that helps in some way.
 
Coincidentally i was thinking a lot about the word truth just a few ways ago. Several comments here have been similar to what i was thinking particularly in comparing it with the the word fact or factual. @PeppermintPatty came very close to my conclusions about it all.

But i would add all facts are true because they are objectively verifiable (which is why we need to fact check news and individual statements that upset us) but not all truths rise to the level of facts because human beings experience the same events and behaviors of others differently. It happens in families and societies. For me, what actually happened is factual, but the way i think and feel about it is my truth.

What is more, not all human experiences are objectively verifiable. Consider that medical science with all the tech and advances still cannot objectively measure pain, the self report scale is very subjective. Tho it's safe to think someone screaming wordlessly from certain movements will probably report in the 9-10 range, it's a good thing they have all the scans and equipment because another person with the same injury may self report at 5-6 level pain because they do not feel it as intensely!

Consider that the same may be said of emotional pain. But that could be fodder for several other threads tho related to the topic of individual 'truths'.
 
Many people parrot certain phrases because they like the sound, or just to fit in with what they've heard others say.
One that's been around quite awhile, "at the end of the day" - to summarize a point.
Here are some more:
"Perception is reality," to argue that how someone feels about a situation matters more than the facts (which isn't necessarily true).
"Lived experience," - as though personal history gives the speaker more knowledge on a topic than others may have. It may, it may not.
 
MACKTEXAS said:
Many people parrot certain phrases because they like the sound, or just to fit in with what they've heard others say.
One that's been around quite awhile, "at the end of the day" - to summarize a point.
Here are some more:
"Perception is reality," to argue that how someone feels about a situation matters more than the facts (which isn't necessarily true).
"Lived experience," - as though personal history gives the speaker more knowledge on a topic than others may have. It may, it may not.
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Very good examples! It is a popular catch phrase that is growing I think.
There are truths that we all know is real:
sparkling objects in the sky at night we call stars, different types of trees, we breathe air, those types of things.
So much of our lives are up to perception and opinion so letting others understand them instead of arguing over them
leads to understanding and acceptance in our differences. It's the attitudes that stir in the anger and hurt ... that is my
opinion.
 
Time Waits 4 No Man said:
You tell me.

But if not, then it isn't a Truth.

Now, here's a truth: 2 + 2 = 4.

That's the difference.
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You forgot the possibility of error.
And do you mean 2 ounces or 2 individual pieces.
We know nothing for sure --absolutely nothing. There is a margin of error in everything under and over the sun --in my opinion.
So I smell bacon. So what?
Fool me once, fair enough. Twice, shame on me.
 
@gruntlabor I am going to take the chance of a come back here but I love your spirit.
When I see some ways you keep coming back and how you word it I think of the movie
Seabiscuit. The scene where the trainer watches Seabiscuit fighting off his handlers on one
end of the paddock and the jockey on the other end fighting off the other stable hands.
Not sure if you ever saw it, some may remember that scene but that is my favorite movie
and when I see you doing your thing I have to smile. Don't get mad, for me it's endearing.

 
I'm pretty much on the same page as Gruntlabor. All we can say is "At this time, it is believed that..." and whatever is believed to be the truth changes all the time. Which is as it should be; scientific evidence keeps changing and refining what we believe to be the "truth".

At one time, medical "truth" told us that bleeding with leeches cured all kinds of things. The shape of a pregnant woman's belly told us what gender the baby was. Saying certain chants and drinking all kinds of gruesome medical concoctions prevented or cured disease.

More recently, lots of people believed the "truth" that Covid could be prevented by allowing your groceries to be sterilized by the rays of the sun before putting them away. And wearing a mask when walking outdoors (or driving alone!) prevented Covid.

There may be actual truth out there, but our primitive brains have no way of knowing what it is. Although it may be easier to determine what is not the truth.
 
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